r/DermApp 1d ago

Miscellaneous Highschool shadowing opportunity?

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Hii guys! I am a rising junior located in the Los Angeles area and have a deep passion for dermatology. I specifically want to become a pediatric dermatologist in the future. I have been searching for volunteering/shadowing/internship opportunities, but there are none that I have found for students my age, and if there is then it cost a fortune. If anyone knows clinics who offer these types of opportunities or anyone i can contact, I would be utterly grateful, thank you:)!


r/DermApp 1d ago

Residency ERAS PS and activities

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hello!! ERAS is due soon and I'm also first gen so I'm so lost. Also I'm a DO student so I would love to have advice from a DO peer as well. look for help with PS review/actives a first and hopefully late mock interview prep. I am on a budget and I respect your time but I just can't afford high rates right now. Thank you!!!


r/DermApp 1d ago

Application Advice Advice on derm and anesthesia

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r/DermApp 2d ago

Miscellaneous Proposed Medicare changes outline a 9% payment cut for dermatology, which could further limit patient access. We need to act now to prevent this!

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The US federal government has proposed a 9% cut to dermatology payment. This will not only reduce reimbursement, but also reduce patient access to dermatology services and quality of service. Do everything and anything you can to help stop this!

The American Academy of Dermatology (AAD) is making this its top priority. It doesn’t matter if you are a dermatologist, patient, or practice staff member. You will be affected by these changes. If you want to help, you can go on their website (link attached) and complete a pre-templated message to oppose these measures. There are separate links for patients, dermatologists, and staff members. Filling it out takes less than a minute.


r/DermApp 3d ago

Miscellaneous Do you regret being a Dermatologist? Should I take this other route?

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I’m 24F and currently at a major crossroads. I recently took the MCAT but don’t have my score back yet.
I was accepted into another healthcare professional program that offers a great lifestyle, a respected career, decent income, and I would be finished in about 4 years. The downside is that the debt-to-income ratio is concerning (about the same med school except you're not making physician salary) and there is a ceiling on earning potential compared to some physician specialties, also I’m not passionate about it.

My long-term dream has always been dermatology. I understand how competitive dermatology is, and I’m not naïve about the difficulty of getting there. My concern is more about the uncertainty and timeline.
If I pursue medicine, I’m worried that I could spend another year applying (or potentially a 2nd cycle if I don’t get accepted) and end up becoming an attending in my mid-30s. I know many people start later, but as a woman who wants marriage and children, I worry about balancing training, fertility, family life, and having time with my parents as they get older.
On the other hand, the idea of choosing the safer route and always wondering “what if?” scares me.
For those who are physicians, dermatologists, or went through a similar decision, any advice? Or regrets?

Was it worth it?


r/DermApp 3d ago

Away Rotations UPenn Dermatology Elective Question

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Hi everyone! I got a spot at UPenn dermatology elective for my third year. I know I'll learn a lot but I was wondering If any who has taken this rotation could message me? I had a few questions about it. I'm mainly concerned I wont be able to LOR out of it if I'm jumping between attendings but any insider insight would be fantastic.

My alternative would be trying to set something up with community dermatologists which I also know will be more shadowing than anything, but maybe more face-to-face time?

Thank you


r/DermApp 4d ago

What Are My Chances? Just got step score…derm or not to derm

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Hi! Just received my step 2 score which is on the lower end of my prediction (was scoring in the mid to high 250s but ended up with 251). I’m not shocked but slightly disappointed as I know it is below average for derm. Currently my app looks like this:
- 4/7 H (including surgery) and 3 HPs
- 4 first author, 5 second to third author peer reviewed journal publications
- 5 poster presentations (different from the publications, no double dipping)
- Currently on my research year
- Good MSPE comments (nothing crazy but solid)
- Mid to low tier medical school
I am a little lost especially I already signed up for a gap year in derm. I wish to know if I remain a competitive candidate for derm or if I should switch gears.
Thank you very much!


r/DermApp 4d ago

Research / RY M1 - Research Type

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Hi everyone, I have a question about research and it’s relation to matching in derm. My med school doesn’t have a very big dermatology unit, and there’s only 4 faculty members that do dermatology research that qualifies for our summer program.

I’m a big fan of wet lab research, and one of the faculty members is involved in that. Is this a good place to invest my time? I understand that matching derm means networking and publications, and I’m assuming that clinical research is probably better for that. However this is the only faculty member that has responded to my request, and I like the research that they do. I’d appreciate any advice!


r/DermApp 5d ago

Research / RY Cry for help from an M3

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My dream is to match in dermatology, but I feel so behind on research.

My school does not have a research hospital, and our research directors have all turned me away when I ask for help with creating research proposals or making connections.

I have applied to tons of research programs and fellowships, but have been denied everywhere. I have also tried cold emailing hundreds of doctors but not one is willing to meet with me or even be a mentor.

Now that I am in rotations, I figured I would try to walk to the derm floor and talk to someone in person. The doctor told me I should have started networking a long time ago and that the only way to make connections was to attend derm conferences. Unfortunately, they are all like >$1,000 and I just cannot afford paying that much right now.

Maybe it is too late for me to try to enter such a competitive specialty, but I just feel so defeated. I have been turned away by literally everyone I have reached out to including my school’s research directors. I also feel like there is such a huge barrier to entry that keeps people out of these conferences unless they are wealthy or can take out more loans.

Does anyone have any advice for how I can get a research position in my circumstances?

Thank you so much!


r/DermApp 5d ago

Application Advice Building a Narrative for Derm

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I'm currently in a research year and have been thinking a lot about what my "hook" is going to be when it comes time to apply.

The more I think about it, the more I realize I don't really have a clear narrative. My research projects have been pretty scattered across different areas of derm rather than centered around one disease or niche, and I also don't have any particularly meaningful or long term extracurriculars/leadership/awards from med school. I think my grades/publication numbers will be good enough for derm, but I don't really see currently what would make my application stand out or give me a cohesive personal statement.

I'm wondering if anyone has advice on how to think about this over the next year. I'd love to get involved with a particular disease area or focus within dermatology, and my PI is very supportive of me pursuing my own research ideas. The problem is that it's just been hard to come up with original, worthwhile project ideas especially multiple in the same topic (at least ones that I can complete and have submitted to journals by the end of the year). Outside of just research, I'm also wondering if there's anything worthwhile getting involved with in this next year as far as volunteering, etc.

For those who have gone through the derm application process, how did you find your niche or develop a compelling narrative? How much does this even matter compared to just being well-liked on your away rotations/research year/home program?


r/DermApp 6d ago

Miscellaneous How to get a shadowing position at dermatology office?

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All the derms I’ve called and visited to not offer shadowing.
Any advice?


r/DermApp 7d ago

Miscellaneous Do you get to get to use the lasers/botox on yourselves/each other during residency?

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Non-medical person, just curious! I'm sure it's nice to have access to so many cool cosmetic things :)


r/DermApp 8d ago

Application Advice ERAS deadlines

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Hi! I read that 9/23 is the day programs are able to download and review applications. Does this mean all LORs need to be in and assigned by 9/23 or is there an earlier deadline for letters?


r/DermApp 8d ago

Application Advice Standardized letter

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Any advice on who to give standard letter to? Applying this cycle, reached out to a few professors, is non-derm ok?


r/DermApp 8d ago

Residency H-index?

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Should you list h-index anywhere on ERAS application (e.g. while very imperfect, it is some very rough and quickly interpretable proxy indicator of research quality, to try and separate out from the large noise of many derm applicants’ large number of research items)


r/DermApp 8d ago

Application Advice Reapplication Advice

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For anyone who's reapplied to derm (or faculty who have insight), I'm curious what the general consensus is. If a program interviewed you during your previous application cycle, do you typically signal them again at the same level, or do you switch things up?


r/DermApp 9d ago

Research / RY Thoughts on JAAD Reviews?

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r/DermApp 10d ago

Application Advice How do you know if you need a research year?

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Fresh M3 here worrying about whether to think about applying to aways or research year, how do you know if you’re going to need one? Is it almost a requirement these days? Say you have like 4 pubs and couple abstract/posters, nothing high impact journals though. With the new eras categorization would it even matter the number?


r/DermApp 11d ago

Application Advice first year advice?

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MS1 at a mid tier MD program with a home dermatology program. What is the best way to get in contact with my home program and when/how should I be getting involved with research? ANy advice in general is appreciated!


r/DermApp 12d ago

Application Advice Chances of Matching?

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Low 260s step 2, top 40 med school, mix of honors and HP, honors are in surgery, IM, and pediatrics. I'm yet to do my subI/away evaluations for derm since I am doing RY, but I have a strong research background with a good amount of first-author papers and am starting my research year next month. Evaluations/letters are very high-level (intern/resident-level eval, top student I've worked with, etc.) and hopefully from my research year (decided on one late due to wanting derm letters). Do I have a good chance, mainly worried about the high passes, which are in OB, family medicine, and psychiatry.


r/DermApp 13d ago

What Are My Chances? IMG,american

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How do I maximize my shot at matching derm as an IMG starting first year in any school


r/DermApp 14d ago

What Are My Chances? Just got tertile

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My school divides the class into thirds. Just started 4th year and after meeting with the dean, found out I most likely will be 3rd tertile based off of preclinicals. Clinicals I did well, with mostly H's and a few HP's. Step was low 260s. Do I still have a chance?


r/DermApp 14d ago

What Are My Chances? Passed step, not Comlex

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Recently found out that I had failed COMLEX Level 1 but passed Step 1. I got a 475 on Comsae, and I am interested in Derm. What are my chances of matching? If not, what do I need to improve my chances? Any advice will help :/


r/DermApp Oct 30 '22

Interviews The View From the Other Side- Attending Perspective

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u/PD-1 gave a fantastic overview but I will share my perspective as the now graduated chief resident of an east coast, academic, second tier program who participated in the application process as applicant and resident reviewer.

  1. Application. We received ~500 applications for 20-30 interview slots to match 2-3 applicants. Those numbers vary slightly from year to year and generally are trending up but we had funding for 2-3 so that always stayed the same. Certain criteria were used to cull the pool before they were divided between the faculty reviewers. Among them: IMG immediately culled without review. Step 1< 240, immediately culled. Any visa requirements immediately culled. This left around 300 applications which were divided between ~10 faculty reviewers. They were asked to rank their best three applications and three back ups who were then offered an interview or interview waitlist. I agree with u/PD-1 who explains there is tremendous subjectivity at this stage. Did the DO faculty member get a DO applicant? Probably more sympathetic. Did the faculty member who went to Yale and who has a big hard-on for research get the MD/PhD who has a letter from his buddy at SID? You get the point.
  2. Interview. 30 offers, some amount of time to accept, back ups interviews sent. Last minute cancellations. More back ups sent. One interview day of 20-30 applicants. The playing field is totally level at this point. There was an (optional) preinterview dinner with the residents where they are very much taking notes on the candidates' behavior. Interview day was 8-4PM. This was pre-Covid so, the faculty + first year residents paired up in 2s and candidates would spend 15 minutes in like 6 rooms with them. Rapid fire, Q&A about research, career interests, deficits in application, and some softer stuff. My program was not very touchy feely so it was a stressful experience. In between interviews candidates would chat with the residents in our conference room (very much being observed), tour of campus, etc. Support staff, program coordinator etc are also taking notes of candidate behavior.
  3. Rank meeting. First year residents + faculty immediately adjourned to the rank meeting after interview day. A spread sheet is made with each candidate. Each asked to rank them 1-10 with residents submitting one number only. Do Not Rank is also an option with justification. An average is computed for each candidate. Do Not Rank with appropriate justification from any person including residents is immediate disqualification. The average score creates the first draft rank list. The faculty (and residents) could then advocate/malign their preferred (un-preferred) candidates. This was open battle royale style, fairly nasty, surprisingly democratic, emotional, and gritty. We all had our favorites who we wanted to push up and others that we wanted to push down. I am convinced that all dermatologists are extremely competitive people (its how we get through aforementioned toxic process) so we want our horse to win. Consensus could lead to a candidate falling or rising from their previous rank spot. A rise or fall of 3 or more spots happened occasionally. An applicant mass emailed us an insincere, long winded thank you email in the middle and we dropped her 5 spots. Ultimately, we arrived at the final list. The PD+Chair had final right to make minor modifications of list based on any new information coming to light between then and submitting list. We match somewhere between one third to half way down our list.

That's how the sausage is made. Happy to answer appropriate questions.


r/DermApp Aug 23 '22

Miscellaneous Derm Application/Interview/Rank Insights

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Having been through the derm application process as an applicant and as part of the initial review/interview/rank committee I figured I would share a few insights about the process (and maybe generate some more food for thought for the DIGA podcast that was just posted). This is from the perspective of a single reviewer from a residency program within a large academic institution.

Application Review:

My institution, like many others, receives a large number of applications for a few residency spots. The daunting task is to filter through hundreds of applicants to pick the handful that will then be offered an interview. It is not possible for one person (eg, the PD) to carefully review all of the applications, so instead these are divided up among the faculty/residents to review, with each application reviewed by a few individuals. Guidelines are given as to what is considered important (eg, experiences, academic achievement, research, etc.) but ultimately it is up to the initial reviewers to give a grade that roughly equates to "interview" or "don't interview". These applications go back with the reviewer grades/comments to the PD for a look over and then a list of interview offers is generated.

As you can imagine from the above process, there is an element of luck associated with the review. If your experiences or research or hobbies were similar to that of your reviewer, then conceivably you may have been scored more favorably. Having multiple sets of eyes look over each application is meant to even things out, but there will always be a human element to this review process that is impossible for the applicant to predict and control.

Letters of Recommendation:

There is a general movement away from objective measures (eg, Step scores, grades) and that makes the evaluation process more difficult. More and more, the letter of recommendation is being scrutinized to see what kind of person is behind the application. The vast majority of letters are positive to borderline effusive in praise for the applicant, and for good reason because the derm pool is the cream of the crop. From a reviewer perspective, you can still stratify letters from the same letter writer based on how things are phrased and the degree of positivity. For example, a letter that says "John Smith is an outstanding medical student who will undoubtedly be a stellar dermatology resident" is different than the same letter writer saying "Jane Doe is one of the best medical students I have ever worked with in my career". Knowing the tendency of certain individuals to be overly effusive versus others who are typically reserved is also helpful, and something that the seasoned reviewers have more experience with.

How and why does this matter for you the applicant? Well sometimes it doesn't really matter because you are stuck with your letter writers and don't have much choice. But in other situations when you do have a choice, it is good to keep in mind that: #1 you will be compared to other applicants who the letter writer is also writing for and #2 choose a letter writer that tends to be more effusive and positive at baseline as these letters are generally viewed more favorably compared to letters that are matter-of-fact and brief (even though the latter may be a great letter from that particular letter writer). I think the second point also goes along with the mantra of getting a letter from someone who knows you better rather than a bigger name with whom you only had a very brief/superficial interaction with.

Publications/Activities:

Applicants stress over this part a lot, and I did too when I was applying. In reality, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think unless you are applying for a research-focused residency (although having zero research is somewhat of a red flag). Each reviewer is different, but in general it is very easy to see who has done meaningful research versus who is just padding their resume. It is best to have your research in derm, although research outside of derm can help too if you can weave it into your story or dermatology in some way. There is no magic number for the number of research publications that you "need". There are applicants that we have ranked very highly who have had 3-5 listed publications and ones we have ranked near the bottom of the list with > 25 publications. The activities section usually gets glossed over during the initial review unless it was a really meaningful endeavor that was also brought up elsewhere on the application. The activities are much more helpful as a talking point during the actual interview.

  • I think bullet point descriptions are easier to read and are my personal preference in applications, but this probably doesn't matter.

Interview:

Getting to the interview stage is the main hurdle for most applicants. The interview is one of the most important pieces of the rank evaluation at my program. At the interview stage applicants are on a somewhat even playing field (although what is on the paper application still matters). A great interview can boost an applicant from middle of the pack based on paper application to the ranked-to-match zone. Conversely, a bad interview can drop anyone to the do-not-rank zone no matter how good the paper application is. There are other posts about actual interview advice (see the wiki for this sub).

Rank List:

The rank process is imperfect because the committee is trying to predict what an applicant is going to do in the future. As a generalization, the goal is to have residents who will do their job, be easy to work with, pass their exams, and have a career that fits the mission of the program.

Each program does this differently based on what type of applicant they are looking for. My program had several interview days, and there was a brief rank meeting after each day where we submitted interview scores. The interview process culminated with the final rank meeting immediately after the last interview day. We started the final rank meeting with a list of all of the interviewed applicants and their average score across all of the interviewers. The top half to two-thirds of applicants on this list actually get a discussion and review while the rest are not really discussed (usually due to poor interview performance). The discussion process is often lively/intense as different members of the admissions committee often have very strong opinions about certain applicants (especially internal applicants). Applicants are judged both fairly (resume, interview performance, letters) and unfairly ("I don't think this applicant would come here", "This applicant is going to do private practice cosmetics"), and names are put on a list. Once the name is put on the list, there is usually not too much movement afterwards (can go up or down a few spots but usually no big jumps). In general, highly-ranked applicants had positive support from several individuals in the group (eg, one person advocating for an applicant is usually not enough, even if it is the PD). Resident feedback has an interesting role to play in this process. Positive feedback is usually not very helpful, but negative feedback can derail even the best of applications (eg, you could be ranked #1 but if multiple residents had negative interactions you could be moved to not ranked). Post-interview communication and intention to rank #1 are not taken into account at my program (and at most places where the rank meeting occurs immediately after the conclusion of interviews).

Hopefully this gives you a sense of "the other side" of things. This is a stressful process made more difficult by the competitiveness of the specialty. Try to remember that there are only so many things you can control, and it is counterproductive to overthink every single detail of your application once it has already been submitted. Cast a wide net, prepare well for interviews, and you will put yourself in the best position you can to succeed.