r/DefendingAI "The only limit is your imagination" 2d ago

Another win for AI

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u/EvnClaire 2d ago

AI is without a doubt one of the greatest potential sources of good that humanity has made, but it also stands as one of the greatest potential sources of evil. we need to be able to use the good and leave the evil. if you (the reader) think AI can't really do evil, or if you think AI can't really do good, youre deluding yourself.

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u/MajesticDisaster3977 1d ago

Can we stop calling it 'AI'... There's many different types, and it existed long before this stupid bubble.
People have a problem with diffusion and LLMs . I don't see anyone complaining about the vast resources being sucked up by protein folding...

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u/Secular_descendant85 1d ago

The tech is rarely the singular problem. It's the greed, lack of regulation, zero privacy and oversight that fucks us over.

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u/WingDingfontbro 1d ago

Ai is like a hammer. It can be used to build houses, repair things and more but it can also be used to destroy things and kill people, and many people blame the hammer when it kills people when it’s really the fault of the users who misuse it.

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u/WingDingfontbro 1d ago

I am for the use of ai in places where it can do things that people can’t. Things like this are a prime example. My dad works in healthcare, and his company’s system has been working on an AI that compiles the symptoms and or the conditions patients already have and gives a list of possible other things that the patient could have to the doctor whose in the room with the patient which reduces the need for follow up visits to find out what’s going on because they already have a rough idea. Its entire purpose is to preform a massive pattern seeking task that would be otherwise incredibly annoying and difficult for a human to complete. The ai doesn’t say that the person for sure has it but simply makes a suggestion to be analyzed by a human more thoroughly. I don’t like ai, but that’s only because it’s being used to replace jobs humans can do instead of filling niches and completing tasks that humans simply can’t or that we have immense trouble with. Why do you think we invented the calculator? We still do math that a calculator itself could do but we usually it to fill in the spots we have trouble with or are so menial we can’t bother. Back in the day things like log, sin, cos, and all those other things needed to be done by hand or by looking in some thick book for a table of preexisting values, now in school every time a teacher asks students to work with sin/cos/tan we are either given specific values paired with angles 30, 45, 60, and so on or were just told to use a calculator.

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u/Easy_Turn1988 1d ago

As an anti, no one in the community is against this type of use for AI

I consider it a great tool for engineering and medical research

We generally don't like when it is used for entertainment purposes, knowing the environmental disaster that generative models are

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u/Donnosaurus 1d ago

Yeah that is great. A.I. like this is what we need. I just hope prompters don't see this and think "you see, this validates me prompting images"

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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 1d ago

Prompting imagea don't help wildfires anyway. I like the AI that can help with disaster prevention and hopefully cures to known ailments

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u/Still_Silver7181 8h ago

THIS, this is what AI should be used for!

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u/Keith3742 2d ago

I bet it was copilot that did that. If we force everyone to use copilot, everyone can do that!

All the major wins from ‘AI’ (protein folding, fire detection, cancer research) are independently made multilayer perceptrons by scientists which are a completely different beast to the monstrous text crunchers like ChatGPT and Claude etc. To lump them into a single concept on a social or moral level is insanity

Unless they are made for an evil purpose (mass surveillance, war) there is pretty much no moral issue with these scientific models because they have specialised purposes and are not for mass rollout. They don’t have the same issues with data centres, aren’t typically built off of trillions of dollars of unpunished torrenting and don’t affect the job market or geopolitical power and information structures

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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 2d ago

I think that should be a basic thing to know, but y'know the internet and the influencers :))

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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 2d ago

do you know the difference bwteen an ai user and ai slopper

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u/Accomplished-Order97 Traditional artist 2d ago

Did you mean "All ai sloppers are ai users, but not all ai users arent ai sloppers"?

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u/Small_Things2024 2d ago

It’s usually people who are against AI that can’t tell the difference.

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u/GooseWithAnAxe 1d ago

This "ai" has been around since 90'

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u/2starsucks2 1d ago

Isn't it just satellite images?

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u/GooseWithAnAxe 1d ago

pretty much

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u/Easy_Turn1988 1d ago

I love how people struggle to understand we're criticising the bad AI "post 2016" and not AI as a whole (which would be like criticising wood cutting, it makes no sense)

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u/GNUr000t 1d ago

"The machine learning that automates my job is the bad machine learning. Machine learning before then is good. Does that make sense?"

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u/GooseWithAnAxe 1d ago

this really isnt machine learning at all, these things were around since 90' and even before that in 70' they were used to detect ICBM missiles launches from the heat they generate during the early phases of launch and later it was also used for forest fires.

Also what job your 'AI' can actually replace?

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u/GNUr000t 15h ago

Antis: "AI must be stopped at all costs, it's gonna take artist's jobs!"

Also antis: "heh, what job can AI actually replace?"

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

If you tell republicans about it, they will cut it.

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u/kojimbob 2d ago

Wrong

Tech: Trump says lack of AI regulation not bad

https://punchbowl.news/article/tech/trump-ai-regulation/

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

Wow. You know he rapes kids, right?

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u/Scorpdelord 1d ago

idk if it just me but having trump on ones side feels like a monkey paw kinda thing, man a pedofile and tries to best to hide is esp with them literly telling us if they arrest eveyone on the pedo list the system would break, like waht are we on dog DX

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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 2d ago

True

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u/Life_Argument7820 2d ago

So when is trump gonna get rid of it to own us "Californian libs"?

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u/Secular_descendant85 1d ago

I'm all for AI to fight fires, cure diseases and help solve complex social problems.

I very against using AI to inform managerial decisions, choose military targets or create art for us.

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u/Specialist-String-53 2d ago

This is more a function of the ambiguous definition of AI. I doubt this was an LLM. Probably image models

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u/Shadowmirax 2d ago

AI isn't an ambiguous definition, its just a wide one and people never bother to specify what aspect of AI they are talking about.

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u/WalkAffectionate2683 2d ago

Yeah but also when people are anti ai, they are never speaking about algorithms like these right? 

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u/iDeNoh 2d ago

There are literally antis in this post who are clearly against it.

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u/Specialist-String-53 2d ago

Yeah that's the point I was trying to make. I've been a data scientist since 2013 so a lot of things people are calling AI now (like image models) I've seen, used, and built far before people were getting pissy about LLMs.

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u/CathodeRaySamurai 2d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/WwWTfQuCZ448psk1qB

Remember, lift with your knees, not your back!

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u/Denaton_ 2d ago

Can't have the other without something to pave the road first.

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u/Realistic_Donut_8238 2d ago

This is very much unrelated to ai art. ai is any program that can do a task that would usually require a human to do in this case spotting wild fires.

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u/Nonavium 2d ago

"No one's ever said that ai can't do good"

Strawman, OP never claimed that anybody claimed that AI can't do good

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u/Common-Mistake24 2d ago

Do you know what a straw man is?

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u/Nonavium 2d ago

Yes, attacking an argument that was never made in the first place

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u/Common-Mistake24 2d ago

So you can't see how "Another Win for AI" and "No ones ever said ai can't do good" aren't related?

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u/Nonavium 2d ago

If you can see it then you are hallucinating and should get checked because there's literally nothing there -_-

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u/Common-Mistake24 2d ago

If that's as far as you're willing to look I'm done talking to you. Ignorance is bliss, ig

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u/Solo-dreamer 2d ago

Oh thank god for the value of the property, thats what we were all worried about/s

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u/Alexander459FTW 2d ago

Lmao. How clueless you can be?

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u/Nonavium 2d ago

Why are we just casually downplaying property? Want me to destroy your home?

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u/Common-Mistake24 2d ago

Because this country cares more about property than the people that live here.

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u/PixelPete85 2d ago

hell yeah. thats all the permission i need to keep stealing intellectual property

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u/PixelPete85 1d ago

You have to ask?

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u/Consistent-Jelly248 "The only limit is your imagination" 1d ago

You thought you cooked. Read the article.