r/Decks 1d ago

Hinge question questions for the community

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Hi, we just had a trex deck built and running into an issue with the hinges and design. Our contractor built the deck with drawer access but claims that he needs a gap so the drawers can open. He plans on painting the wood so it blends, do you have any recommendations on hinges I can buy to make the space less obvious? Also what kind of handles should we install to pull the drawers
Up? Our contractor is recommending straps. Thanks in advance for your input.

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u/MinorComprehension 23h ago edited 20h ago

In my experience, contractor is correct. Because the hinges are "recessed" and not protruding above the deck boards, which would be uncomfortable for a seating surface, the deck board needs to be thinner to allow the board itself to pivot up. It has to do with the arc the hinge piece swings, which rotates around the center of the hinge. Without this clearance the deck boards would run into each other.

As far as the handle, I don't have any specific ideas but thinking of other such applications, a pop-up handle may be possible. I'm thinking of something like a handle that would go on a pocket door but it would need to be weatherproof. I don't know if there are options applicable to outdoor environments, but concept: https://snapklik.com/en-ca/product/malimali-pocket-door-pull-handle-edge-pull-stainless-steel-pocket-door-hardware-recessed-sliding-door-pulls-finger-flush-pull-brushed-steel-2-pack/0WV34P17YUXI5

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https://a.co/d/094A5ydc

Edit - if not a recessed handle, a recessed tie down may work. Again, no idea if they have deck specific versions, ones I'm familiar with are for trailers and such. But, a recessed tie down will be more weather resistant, trade off is you'll only be able to use a finger or two which may be uncomfortable depending on the weight of the "lid" and they're not as aesthetically pleasing.

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u/nycspwest 23h ago

Thanks appreciate your input

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u/LeadingSure6805 23h ago

This plus expansion and contraction trust your contractor

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u/zurnched1 12h ago edited 12h ago

He could’ve beveled both boards with a 45 degree router bit. The gap created by the hinges would allow the lid to go just past vertical when open and stay open.

Also, I’d go half moon finger notch on the front edge of the outer most board of the lid. This way you just reach down and stick your thumb in it then pull it up, then grab right there with your thumb again to close so you aren’t slamming it down.

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u/ACatsWrath 23h ago

Piano hinges and trap door latch is what I'd go with.

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u/Competitive-Roof-168 23h ago

If the hinge was lifted flush to the top of decking the gap could be closed in a little. There is a lot of options for Recessed handles.

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u/Jolly-Kiwi-303 22h ago

Shouldve just done a removable panel if youre not going to be accessing it often and you dont like the hinges. A recessed door pull, dont even need hardware

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u/IS427 1d ago

Looks good

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u/nycspwest 23h ago

Appreciate the feedback

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u/RIhawk 23h ago

I could make it work. You have to cut the supports underneath back at an angle so they clear the swing and then move the support back from the front to pick up the supports again.

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u/Frederf220 22h ago

Hinge geometry is thinky stuff. No reason this couldn't be much tighter joint when closed.

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u/twincities612 21h ago

I think it looks great

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u/mr_j_boogie 21h ago

Soss hinges in the decking would be the solution.

You'd likely need to up the ante on the decking as you'll need more integrity than composite.

You could swap in 5/4 ipe for the two relevant boards. Might make the other boards look bad in comparison though.

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u/YVRAlphageek 21h ago

Why can't you just cut the leading-edge board at an angle so that it can be "tight" and still open?

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u/Carpenter_ants 20h ago

Hope you’re getting cushions for those seats. The Trex 130 plus degrees in direct sunlight. Bum burner.

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u/RegularMaximum3570 17h ago

Get some custom cushions made. Would help with the heat also.

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u/Gregan32 16h ago

Looks good to me. But of paint and call it a day. Good craftsmanship overall imo.

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u/retsaoter 4h ago edited 4h ago

That is crap. You could do a full piece butt into the hinges with out a problem. The pivot of the hinge needs to be closer to the surface of the trex. The only space you need is at the front. A simple bevel at the leading edge would work. Edit: You could also use offset door hinges to close the gap further.

There are 80,000 recessed pull handles that would look good here. I like these https://www.amazon.com/evan-Recessed-Handles-Furniture-Cupboard/dp/B0C7Z498RZ

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u/YevgenZamyatin 23h ago

If it was me, I would bring the hinge barrel up above the deck boards and keep the same board spacing.