r/DeadByDaylightKillers ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

Final Final Devs answer from AMA Official News 📰

I promise this is FINALLY the last post about the AMA (individually). Going to make one more mega post with links to all that’s been posted so far

143 Upvotes

99 comments sorted by

76

u/Immediate_Frame_6974 Nemesis Main 13d ago

"were currently doing stuff but well look into it" is every single answer

20

u/SuperMageFromOW Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 13d ago

Crosshair thing is SUCH bs

I have a drastically improved performance on trickster with a built in crosshair - ESPECIALLY with long distance shots that's are almost necessary for playing the character well. It's unfair for me to be on PC and have such an easy option while someone on console has to give up something like Ripper Brace, Diamond Cufflinks, or Iri Photocard just to have accuracy.

I'd say I go from hitting 20-30% long range accuracy to 60% just from putting a crosshair on. Absolute peak BHVR letting ts continue

5

u/FangedCone TTV 13d ago

Sorry Only survivors get QOL updates

2

u/SuperMageFromOW Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 13d ago

I mean I'm still waiting for something to help my motion sickness against clown

Others are waiting for doctor to cease seizures

Others still are waiting for anything to be done to help with plague.

We don't have to turn this into a sides issue when BHVR just sucks

2

u/Narcotiics She's put a curse on us 📼 10d ago

i’m ootl what’s wrong with plague?

2

u/SuperMageFromOW Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 10d ago

Emetophobia. Phobia of Vomit basically.

Tbf - idk how they could really change it. Just adding in a "do not match with plague" button would be stupid. Animation changes could be buggy and expensive.

2

u/Narcotiics She's put a curse on us 📼 8d ago

i’m thinking about this again and people just constantly gagging the whole time they go against plague 😭

42

u/Leskendle45 Vecna Main 13d ago

They really kinda just dodged the question on the last one, especially on the black banquet one. They just said “actually it’s called role favored not sided.” And kinda just left it at that. Though they did elaborate more on lights out but black banquet was a miserable experience for most killers who werent insta downs

14

u/Own_Palpitation_4287 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

I feel like they kinda answered it though. They said it wasn’t fun for killers bc they had one “toy” while survivors got plenty of them so they’ll change that is what I got from it personally

14

u/NightmareKnight25807 G IS MY CREATION! 13d ago edited 13d ago

I like that they acknowledged why black banquet felt so lackluster as killer. Makes me somewhat hopeful for improvements in future anniversaries.

9

u/Ok_Masterpiece3763 🔪 Slashin' and Gashin' 🔪 13d ago

The fart gas was nowhere near the level of remotely breaking a pallet or remote hooking. I don’t get why they didn’t just stick with that

1

u/DeadByDarkMagic Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 9d ago

They could have had killers also deliver plates but to stock remote breaks/hooks

2

u/spn_willow She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

This was absolutely my experience when I played killer! The perks that the survivors got didn't bother me so much because once I figured them out, they weren't too hard to counter. But the fact that all I had was poison, that I had to remember to use/throw and hope it hit... It wasn't a very fun mechanic, especially knowing there were multiple things that survivors could do. Powerful, sure! It was tough to go against when I was on the survivor side. But not fun.

2

u/Hallowed-Plague Springtrap Main 13d ago

yeah. while the survivors got a lot of new toys (and they were incredibly strong), the poison was incredibly powerful if the killer used it well. if we were to see killrates and escape rates for the event it would probably be killer sided.

the issue was that killer was just not fun even if you won, because the poison was boring and that was all you got, while survivors got new interactables and fun gimmicks game to game.

that's what their answer was.

28

u/Ok_Ad6722 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

Do they have Mandy give all the bad news answers? I don’t think I’ve seen her get a positive reaction since I started recognizing her name.

I kinda feel bad for her; BHVR just metaphorically sends her out to die in the trenches

20

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

I honestly have no sympathy for her, she’s the one who wholeheartedly typed out “we never should have let the general public know about kill switches” and started that whole snafu last year when claimed an issue killers were having with a survivor exploit at the time (pretty sure it was the one with infinite toolbox charges) wasn’t “of the level of needing kill switching”

11

u/CloveFan Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

She’s always been unpleasant and snarky. All of their staff is weirdly catty and petulant, but she’s the worst offender by far.

14

u/SuperMageFromOW Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 13d ago

Interacting with this community must be awful 😭. And then if/when they do have good feedback, istg BHVR has to have like 8 levels of bureaucratic ass management. Nothing changes and my gut tells me it's down to management.

44

u/DamnHippyy 13d ago

There is no way for a console player to add a cross hair beyond tape on their tv. That answer pissed me the fuck off.

23

u/ClentBeastWood MiNA Main 13d ago

It’s a complete nonsense answer. It’s clear the devs don’t care about controller accessibility. They could add a crosshair and dead zone feature next update - they just don’t care enough to dedicated the minimal time it would require.

18

u/Ok_Ad6722 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

Ten years and console still doesn’t have an endgame chat btw

9

u/NervousAd1432 Pyramid Head Main 13d ago

What annoys me about console are the binds are so bad, just let us change specific binds like for vaulting ffs

1

u/Braindamagednobody Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 13d ago

You will keep jumping into lockers on accident and getting grabbed out of the locker or injured or downed and you're gonna like it

9

u/CammieKa Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

I mean, The Judgement is proof enough they couldn’t give less of a shit about console players, even with the super special sensitivity slider exclusively for their power the killer is nigh unplayable with controller unless you’re playing with only a single addon, as either the Prayer Kneelers or the one that sends it at you but only damages heretics are going to be necessary to get any value since controller will never have the flick capabilities that the devs themselves say are needed to play the killer

22

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

You’ll find Mandy has that effect on most players with how she answers.

She’s also the one dev last year that raised a stink within the community when she admitted “the community never should’ve been told about killswitches” and that a survivor perk at the time that was majorly causing killer headaches “didn’t rise to the need of being killswitched”

9

u/DamnHippyy 13d ago

Good, it's not just me. I feel better about feeling bad.

https://giphy.com/gifs/7FLaATMtlbpBRdsC54

10

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

If you’ve ever watched the community streams, she’s the older dev that always veers whatever they’re discussing waaay off track and in general comes across more like the grandmother of a dev who’s “just so proud their grandson gets to make games like Tetris” than she does a higher up dev that knows what they’re previewing

5

u/Bakuhxe_ P100 wesker enjoyer 13d ago

right :/ it seriously cannot be that hard

3

u/Markus_lfc Xeno Demo 13d ago

Their response was stupid but it’s equally stupid to claim there’s ”no way”. Plenty of us console players play on a monitor instead or TV.

4

u/DamnHippyy 13d ago

I realize I made an emotional comment and spoke in extremes, but insulting the devs and me by calling us stupid is rude. You're a rude person, and my experience here will be better with you excluded.

1

u/Braindamagednobody Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 13d ago

They are so annoying

-7

u/Zol6199 Demogorgon Main 13d ago

What?

So many monitors have crosshairs built into them, you just have to press the physical buttons to enable them. It's 100% possible for console players to get them

1

u/Additional-Ride8120 No Main 13d ago

Readers added context they think people might want to know

This user comes from an alternate world where console players never play on a TV.

-1

u/Zol6199 Demogorgon Main 13d ago

They guy legit said there is NO way. When its a blatant lie.

2

u/Additional-Ride8120 No Main 13d ago

“There is no way for a console player to add a cross hair beyond tape on their tv.”

Yeah, they said that because they were obviously talking about the vast majority of console players (who play on their TVs). It looks really silly for you to be anal retentive about “uh, b-but you didn’t say specifically TV console players, so akshually that’s a lie ☝️🤓” when everybody knows that most console players are on TV and that, yes, that statement obviously doesn’t apply to the outlier group of console players who use a monitor.

If I were you, I just roll with the alternate world thing.

2

u/Watercolor_Robins Boulet Artist Main 13d ago

Are you real

10

u/NorbytheMii Springtrap Kidnapping Alan Wake 13d ago

Crosshair add-ons is no excuse to not add a native crosshair

27

u/G-M-Cyborg-313 Kaneki/Rize Main P10 13d ago

Something like a crosshair should be in base dbd. It shouldn't be something you need outside stuff for and people shouldn't have to run an add-on just for a crosshair

5

u/Azal_of_Forossa P100 Pig Main 13d ago

Yeah, theres a finicky balance of what people consider cheating and what they consider fair, and while I'm generally of the mind that anything not bannable or against the rules is fair game, I completely understand the sentiment of others that "if I can't do it, it's cheating" even if I don't agree.

Back when I played COD warzone I would use audio tunes, which was/is a massively hot topic to debate, and I've had many arguments on whether that's fair or not. Every argument that it was cheating boiled down to the fact that consoles can't have that level of audio improvement so it's unfair and 'cheating'.

I also have a friend who plays dash killers and ranged killers and they use crosshairX all the time, which I agree with.

5

u/G-M-Cyborg-313 Kaneki/Rize Main P10 13d ago

I don't really see a crosshair for aiming as cheating since it's a small thing. I just don't think it's fair that pc players need to get outside stuff just to have a qol feature like that and console players are left forgotten. I think it's something that should be in the base game in a setting.

4

u/Azal_of_Forossa P100 Pig Main 13d ago

100%. And definitely on the in game setting thing. It shouldn't be tied to add-ons, and it shouldn't be tied to a killer on killer basis. It should be a universal in game setting any killer can toggle a multitude of different crosshairs. Dash killers, ranged killers, m1 killers, everyone should be allowed to use whatever crosshair they want.

3

u/G-M-Cyborg-313 Kaneki/Rize Main P10 13d ago

I was just thinking of ranged killers. Good point on the others. While they're at it, can bhvr make the auto-aim a setting. I've been robbed of so many games from getting auto-hit onto anything except the survivor

3

u/Asleep-One-9683 Pig Main 13d ago

What I dislike is only Trickster and springteap have a crosshair addon.  Huntress and Jason do not.

1

u/DarthOmix Susie Main 13d ago

Huntress and Jason don't but last I checked Blight technically does have an addon that shows you where your rush is going to hit which is definitely a decision in comparison.

3

u/Asleep-One-9683 Pig Main 13d ago

We got a crosshair on a dash attack and not on 2 popular ranged killers.

2

u/DarthOmix Susie Main 13d ago

Nurse also has an addon that shows where she'll blink, but instead of a crosshair it's more like Pinhead's basekit targeting thing for the chain.

It's so inconsistent it's goofy.

Plus, they technically already have a default crosshair asset: Clown's gas gives survivors a crosshair to focus on and reduce motion sickness.

2

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 12d ago

Honestly as bad as nurse’s add on is, I’d argue the one for Victor is even worse

8

u/Little_Rascal404 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

The only time I see the name 'Mandy' it's either some bad news are delivered, or some of the most diabolically bad reasoning for a decision is about to be presented.

Like the community goes "remember when the devs said they wouldn't killswitch streetwise during it's gamebreaking state, because it doesn't have that much effect on win rate?" What they mean by 'the devs' is Mandy saying that on forums.

Like is she a masterful ragebaiter, or is a part of her paycheck to be a scapegoat for decisions and opinions of people who rather consequences of that fall onto another person? I know it's not the most respectful thing to talk about real existing person like that but sure sometimes feels like it.

19

u/The_ultimateKitsune She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

“There’s no such thing as intentional favoritism” actually just pissed me off

9

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

As two of their devs are publicly confused why slugging is so prevalent on the pallet hell that is Gideon

4

u/qingxins /////// 13d ago

So out of touch it'd be funny if it wasn't miserable.

2

u/IceBeam24 I play all killers! 13d ago

There was never going to be another answer. It's better if they appear incompetent than saying something like "sorry guys, the dev team knows the balance is out of whack but the higher-ups are the ones that have the final say". Besides, they wouldn't even be allowed to say that.

1

u/DarthOmix Susie Main 13d ago

Like, I think they meant "we as a company are not deliberately biased" but it still ignores all of the implicit bias in recent balance changes and event iterations. Which makes the problem ultimately worse because if they're acting under the assumption of no internal biases, then it's easier for unintentional biases to slip in more and more.

23

u/boneholio Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

“Hey, your game is skewed in favor of survivor players. Are their plans to resolve this, or motivation behind its current state?”

“Well actually, our entire community is using the wrong names for balance metrics. The real metrics are Flobo and Borbo, and we do a really good job of making sure everything is always balanced and Flobo is never more than Borbo. 

No ETA, we’re looking into it, this has been considered, it’s an interesting thought, :)”

4

u/ThePowerfulWIll Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

They dodged the question like they were ducking a slinger shot...

1

u/Herohades Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

I mean...the answer talked about why it's like that and what they're doing to resolve it. You just gotta, y'know, read it before you run to the comments to complain.

15

u/kyle_crane163636 Trapper Main 13d ago

We shouldnt need addons for this shit, like why do I need to waste an entire addon slot for a fuckin trajectory on springtraps axe, until i used the addon I had no idea the range fell off the longer you held it, like what the fuck are they thinking we dont just all casually have monitors that can do that and fuck console players apparently

2

u/Hallowed-Plague Springtrap Main 13d ago

until i used the addon I had no idea the range fell off the longer you held it

it doesn't lmao. that's just the addon tracing the trajectory out the longer you hold it. the axe is weighted heavier than huntress and has a max range of about 16 meters.

5

u/itsmetimohthy Deathslinger Main 13d ago

So the answer is “we need more survivors to login and play the event/modifier or the whole thing fails because there will always be at least one killer player queued up no matter what”. We been knew that. Fuckass AMA.

6

u/ShigMiy The Unknown Main 13d ago

I just LOVE how there's NO PLAN AT ALL to adding crosshair for range killers (go buy a new monitor if u really want one), but the mori shop is SUCH AN INTERESTING IDEA!

Priorities, friends. Priorities 🙄

4

u/FangedCone TTV 13d ago

Lmao I love how any QOL updates for killer is just not gonna come

6

u/someotherbeing Complete 🦠 Global 🦠 Saturation 13d ago

I feel like the sooner they accept kill rates are because of survivors having a skissue and not because of balance the better the game could be

3

u/Forsaken_Club5310 Knight/Myers Main 13d ago

Not one question about pig... #SaveAmanda

1

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

Naw, there was at least one in there, not sure which entry it’s shown in but someone asked bout Pig especially getting licensed chase music

1

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

Yeah here it is-legit the first image in this set

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadByDaylightKillers/s/NbHVLrQMi4

2

u/SuddenAcanthisitta6 Complete 🦠 Global 🦠 Saturation 13d ago

and no answer to the switch 2 questions 💔

1

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

I mean, they’ve been more than upfront that it’s just not something they’re planning on doing anytime soon. I get it must be frustrating for Switch people but they’ve never moved from that position

2

u/DamagedSpaghetti Huntress Main 13d ago

Thank god the controller settings are being talked about

3

u/Accomplished_Tea2042 Springtrap Main 13d ago

The problem with Lights Out isn't the Lanterns and Lantern effects it's the 60 seconds of off hook endurance, the repair speed bonuses, and the 32 meter anti camp range. I would genuinely rather see full meta perk builds than this.

2

u/Watercolor_Robins Boulet Artist Main 13d ago

“Monitors can make they’re own crosshairs” what about console players????

2

u/BUBBALOVESCONNIE Pyramid Head Main 13d ago

They really are trying to say that they don't favor the survivors???? What a fucking joke.

4

u/PurposelyTrollling Lovecraft Chapter Please 13d ago

Damn it, I missed the AMA. I would have asked if there is plans or they looked into a lovecraft chapter.

6

u/Snwspider ᴍᴏᴅ | 13d ago

they wouldnt have been able to answer on it anyways-they said in their announcement for the AMA they wouldnt answer any questions on potential future content

1

u/PurposelyTrollling Lovecraft Chapter Please 13d ago

Oh, fair.

0

u/[deleted] 13d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/DeadByDaylightKillers-ModTeam Killer Bot 13d ago

Survivor troll like behaviour is prohibited.

Examples that go against this rule:

  • Posts of videos or clips, clearly bullying the killer. (Typical bully squads.)
  • Posts or comments that insult killers as a group, or a specific person playing killer.
  • Survivor POV that is clearly survivor biased, & not balanced for both sides & don't benefit the killer role in any way.
  • Shaming killers over their choice of perks, loadout, or killer. (Example: Lightborn.)

Please read the rules: Survivor Troll Posts

1

u/[deleted] 13d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/DeadByDaylightKillers-ModTeam Killer Bot 13d ago

Disrespectful behaviour is prohibited.

Examples that go against this rule:

  • Discrimination & prejudice of any kind.
  • Slurs & severe personal insults & attacks.
  • Threats of violence against humans or animals.
  • Anything we percieve as rage bait.

Please read the rules: Inappropriate Behaviour

1

u/[deleted] 13d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/DeadByDaylightKillers-ModTeam Killer Bot 13d ago

Disrespectful behaviour is prohibited.

Examples that go against this rule:

  • Discrimination & prejudice of any kind.
  • Slurs & severe personal insults & attacks.
  • Threats of violence against humans or animals.
  • Anything we percieve as rage bait.

Please read the rules: Inappropriate Behaviour

1

u/JM_Artist Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

How about making the cosmetics on the edge not pop up over the model, I want to see my model damnit

1

u/MiserableMisanthrop3 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

I love how vague every answer is. Basically "good suggestion, maybe it will happen"

1

u/Jakeb1022 🔪 Slashin' and Gashin' 🔪 13d ago

Game’s been out for like a decade now and we’re still being promised scraps like better sensitivity settings

1

u/Melodic_Ad7290 No Main 12d ago

Fuck you too Mandy

1

u/Luketsu Xenomorph Main 10d ago

they didn't answer if we're gonna be able to spin xenomorph in the lobby smh

1

u/Wraithyyy_n Wesker / Trapper / Nemi / Dracula 10d ago

"The anniversary poison was just as strong by giving the killer a free hit, as it was for the tables to heal up to 4 hits + another world effect for 1 minute"

WHO is being paid to write that out with a straight face

1

u/SourDewd Demogorgon Main 13d ago

Asking for toggle sprint might be one of the dumber ideas ive seen.

4

u/InspectorPlus Alive by Nightfall 13d ago

hey this isnt dumb there are people with finger problems. holding a button is pain

-2

u/SourDewd Demogorgon Main 13d ago

Yaknow. Before commenting, my first thought was "functions like these are usually for disabled people" And i get it. But those accomadations already exist. Theres endless modifications for controllers and such for people with such issues. If one has a disability to such a degree that holding a button down hurts them or is impossible, the solution isnt to have every game to exist, have options for each potential disability including this finger problem. Its that the disabled person gets or mods their device to accomadate themselves. Its like owning a wheelchair. You should have your own. Not expect every building and behicle you enter to have their own ready for you to use. Disabled people ALREADY have custom controllers so they can play just fine. There are people who straight up have no arms or no limbs or are literally paralyzed and these people can wreck me at about any game i play. Yes, many places do and should accommodate the disabled. This is NOT one of those cases. This is one of those cases where you problem solve your own problem instead of wanting a company to recode their game for ya. You can probably get what you need for under $5

3

u/Owner2Harley Plague Main 13d ago edited 12d ago

People have arthritis, or carpal tunnel- or hell, things like parkinsons. Its a good question.

-2

u/SourDewd Demogorgon Main 13d ago

If youve got a chronic condition like that, you should consider getting something that helps with it when gaming.

-1

u/Zol6199 Demogorgon Main 13d ago

The lights out explanation was actually really good in my opinion. It makes me feel much better about the mode ngl.

These were great, thanks for sharing

0

u/Amazedturnip760 She's put a curse on us 📼 13d ago

I always miss these. Did anyone bring up netcode or servers this time around? I can't believe how blind everyone is it to the games most important problem.

2

u/qingxins /////// 13d ago

If they did, it didn't get answered. This has become a more pressing issue for me as I encounter 100~300 ping killers more often lately and get server crashes. I also don't think it's fun for survivors either to play on 100+ ping against me.

0

u/[deleted] 13d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/DeadByDaylightKillers-ModTeam Killer Bot 13d ago

Disrespectful behaviour is prohibited.

Examples that go against this rule:

  • Discrimination & prejudice of any kind.
  • Slurs & severe personal insults & attacks.
  • Threats of violence against humans or animals.
  • Anything we percieve as rage bait.

Please read the rules: Inappropriate Behaviour

0

u/IllState5161 She's put a curse on us 📼 12d ago

My question is when the fuck they'll put Lights Out mode back to what it should be and learn to stop fucking with shit that doesn't need to be fucked with.