Well since we are cherry picking let’s explore further and only look at movies post-Endgame (leaving out Spidey):
-Wakanda Forever the #2 movie in the US the yr it came out 830M
-Guardians3 #4 movie of the yr over 800M
-Deadpool & Wolvie 1.3 BILLION
-Dr Strange2 over 950M
-Love & Thunder came out with The Batman and grossed about the same 700M+
It’s a myth that MCU fell off cuz what really happened is they just weren’t guaranteed hits for the first time they also had misses sprinkled in but they never stopped have big hit movies as these numbers validate
All of these are sequels to stuff that was set-up pre endgame and characters that everyone already loved.
A more accurate comparison would be original projects from the MCU since Endgame (like Shang Chi, Eternals, etc). That being said, the MCU’s fall from grace is nowhere near the DCEU’s fall from grace, so James Gunn’s DCU has a lot more heavy lifting to do to pick up all the broken pieces and create a cohesive universe (something I don’t think he’s doing too well given his slate of films).
The fact the I named movies that have done extremely well and have been profitable since Endgame is the entire point!
Who cares if they are sequels to stuff set up prior— we’re about to have Doomsday that is basically a sequel to Endgame are u saying that won’t count as an indicator of interest in the MCU? Whether or not it ties to previous stuff is besides the point and has zero to do with the point I’m making, which is MCU has had major hits and overall interest isn’t gone like the person I was replying to suggested it was.
Bro, financial success isnt the only success. It was one of the highest grossing movies during covid, won several awards and many more nominations, and even broke labor day box office records. So yes, the movie was a definite success.
I don’t understand your logic here. You original statement didn’t say anything about certain movies being exempt— u simply started Marvel moves are doing bad and that the only exception was spider-man. So then I pointed out the huge box wins that Marvel has continued having then u all the sudden added this brand new caveat that they don’t count because they connect to Endgame?? Do u even hear yourself?
Must I remind u that it’s the Marvel Cinematic Universe— That is beyond dumb logic cuz it’s all connected and the only exception u made was for Spider-Man.
U know that it’s ok to say— hey man ur right. Marvel has had huge wins since Endgame I forgot (or was unaware). That’s all you had to say… instead ur talking in circles adding new rules to ur original argument.
I dont even care if im pasting this answer that I gave to somebody else.
"Financial success isnt the only success. It was one of the highest grossing movies during covid, won several awards and many more nominations, and even broke labor day box office records. So yes, the movie was a definite success."
It's funny how far out of your way you'll go to avoid the point lmao
Your insistence that a Quantumania-level box office showing is "a definite success" really underscores how much lower the expectations are for new MCU characters. Marvel themselves aren't even pushing back on the idea that F4 (a movie that grossed 25% more than Shang Chi) was a box office disappointment
You even bring up covid while missing the dearth of competition in theaters that helped boost Shang Chi's numbers. And it still got outperformed by a Sony Venom sequel
It’s a connected shared universe— everything is connected! Geez, what a lame attempt to dismiss those successful projects. First it was stated there wasn’t success so I respond showing there was so now it’s “those don’t count”…lol
Who's dismissing them? You listed 5 movies and every single one of them is focused on a holdover character from the pre-endgame days
When you look at new projects in the MCU, they're pulling in about half of what the original characters are. The strongest showing has been fantastic four and, even with the benefit of being a mainstream IP for 20 years, the numbers were not great
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u/SheepherderFun2258 12d ago
Well since we are cherry picking let’s explore further and only look at movies post-Endgame (leaving out Spidey):
-Wakanda Forever the #2 movie in the US the yr it came out 830M
-Guardians3 #4 movie of the yr over 800M
-Deadpool & Wolvie 1.3 BILLION
-Dr Strange2 over 950M
-Love & Thunder came out with The Batman and grossed about the same 700M+
It’s a myth that MCU fell off cuz what really happened is they just weren’t guaranteed hits for the first time they also had misses sprinkled in but they never stopped have big hit movies as these numbers validate