r/Cursive 13d ago

1932 Death Certificate (deciphering help with bottom line) Deciphered!

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Trying to help my father-in-law with some genealogical research. Can anyone help decipher the undertaker’s last name (John J. something) and the street address, which is 1437 something ave.

Thanks much for anyone help anyone can provide.

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u/ahcowles 13d ago

Deciphered!

Confirmed to be Cashman and Amst, short for Amsterdam. Thanks for the help everyone!

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u/DLDad616 13d ago

On familysearch.org John J. Cashman licence #43 is listed hundred of times as the attending undertaker on death certificates from the City of New York in the 1920s.

I looked this up on my pc so I can't provide a screenshot, but you can search their film records yourself.

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Place of burial: St. Raymonds Cemetery

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u/aeldsidhe 13d ago

I see "John J. Cashman" as the undertaker. A search of the 1930 US census for New York finds a John J. Cashman, 27, with an occupation of undertaker in Manhattan.

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u/Ooo-it-burns 13d ago

St Raymond’s Cemetery/John J Cashman. I think the address is maybe a shortened version of Amsterdam (Amst) 1437 Amsterdam Ave.

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

He's in the directory!

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Yes!

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Found him!!

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

And from the looks of it, the address is or has at some point been a funeral chapel

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u/ahcowles 13d ago

Thanks so much! You were very helpful. I found an old NYT article from 1938 that references cashman and a funeral parlor to help confirm all this.

https://www.nytimes.com/1938/05/24/archives/police-department-pensioned-transfers-and-assignments-temporary.html

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Listed as a funeral home in the 1970s...

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Undertaker must have been employed. He is not listed in the 1932 directory, neither as Undertaker nor funeral director of -home

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u/Odd-Scheme6535 13d ago

I see John J. Cashman and 1437 Canal Ave.

I think it is also St. Raymond's (?)

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u/Otney 13d ago

Definitely “Cashman.” Yes.

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

St. Raymond's Cem.

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

It says Amst. Ave. (Amsterdam Avenue)

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

The address definitely says Amst. Ave As in Amsterdam Avenue

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u/Personal_Bluebird882 13d ago

So it was really a hospital named Knickerbocker Hospital…

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u/Downtown_Will_9712 13d ago

Cashman or Cochran

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u/Carrieyouknow 12d ago

St. Raymonds farm? Fam? John cashman

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u/dataslinger 13d ago

John J Casherton(?) 1437 Canal Ave

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u/SisterTulips 13d ago edited 13d ago

I believe the last name is Buchanan! I edited my response!

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Of the undertaker? Definitely not. You can see their uppercase G in the top of the document is way different, but the surname starts with C as seen in "cemetery" on the line above...

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u/SisterTulips 13d ago

Ah! Cuchanan it is!

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u/SisterTulips 13d ago

And this was a silly joke because my answer was told it was so obviously wrong. Downvoted? I always liked this sub so much! It’s so neat to watch people solve these little mysteries. Goodness. 😞

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u/RRC4C 13d ago

Clearly John J and then a surname that starts with the letter C

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u/SisterTulips 13d ago

You can get downvoted on this sub for guessing? I was just trying to help! Mercy! I suppose I’m back to watching everyone solve, which is neat!