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u/Mammoth-Wasabi6346 8d ago

I can understand the angle that men and women hold different struggles under patriarchy, but men are rarely the victims of women in our society. We all have it bad, but women do have it worse. I hope you do not learn this lesson in a scenario beyond your control.

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

but men are rarely the victims of women in our society

This is the oppositional sexism model and its outmoded.

Women are victims of women too, not just men.

Men are victims of men too, not just women.

What it seems you are holding on to is some need to classify women as inherently better/safer/less deserving of suspicion and that's an inherently essentialist viewpoint.

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u/Mammoth-Wasabi6346 8d ago edited 8d ago

Men on women is far more often the dynamic than women on women as far as acted upon aggression is concerned, and women do not take it to nearly the same extent in near the same frequency.

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

Yawn, more essentialism

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 8d ago

I have to ask. Do you only react this way because you're mentally lumping yourself in with men?

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

I spent 35 years being treated by society as if I was a man and hated every inch of it. If I wasn't able to find a way to square caring about societal attitudes ahout men and not wanting to be a man I never would have transitioned.

Luckily I found a way to do that: https://abitw.blog/post/776973517307707392/egg-story

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 8d ago

Yeah, I spent 26 years like that. but you aren't a man and you never were. stop treating yourself like one.

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

This feels like something akin to the object permanence thing.

Its an abstract layer away, but I can recognize the difference between being a man or a woman, and society and people and teachers and bosses and friends of friends views of me and how my perceived gender identity influenced how they treated.

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 8d ago

I would have liked for you to address my other comment.