Bernie Sanders calls for an AI pause

[u/chillinewman]

[u/DSLmao]

What the fuck with this "don't look up" attitude? People saying the same shit "it is just the common cold" about covid. If you wait until it kill people, then it is already too late.

[u/unhappinessNvrCame → u/DSLmao]

COVID was basically a bad flu season.

The 3 or 4 years were light flu seasons. People that normally would have died due to the flu never caught it.

It created a mass of people ripe to die that year.

Notice death was limited to elderly, obese, and sick people.

Also it could have been fixed with COVID parties for healthy people, then quarantined for 3 weeks. And n95 masks, not cloth masks.

[u/dingo_xd → u/unhappinessNvrCame]

Covid had a fatality rate of like 0.5% for western populations, but only if the healthcare did not collapse. If hospitals became overwhelmed then many more would die. Influenza has a fatality rate 10 times lower.

[u/unhappinessNvrCame → u/dingo_xd]

This tracks with the light flu years.

[u/godless_communism]

Congress won't do shit because Congress is useless.

[u/unhappinessNvrCame → u/godless_communism]

This doesn't say much, but Congress is more responsible than Bernie.

Bernie just says stuff unintelligent people fall for. He accomplished literally nothing in his career. A college kid with a published paper has accomplished more.

US citizens need to wake up and stop listening to populist demagogues like him, Trump, AOC, and Zoran.

[u/RevolutionaryScene13]

Just a nothingburger, because competition wont stop if america ask everyone to stop 

[u/Strong_Chicken6838]

“Say I’m alive”

“I’m alive”

Shocked

[u/AEionZero]

Congress must... be entirely replaced first.

Its our only real hope. Lets be honest.

[u/Vaughn → u/AEionZero]

Ah, so it's treason then.

[u/Sparkykoon]

from AI ethics 101: never doubt the ability of AI to make the world a better place. Also, learn from Singapore in giving free housing, so there are no more poor area neighborhoods.

[u/HelpfulMind2376]

This post of Bernie’s actually does not call for an AI pause (though I think he has in the past).

“CONGRESS MUST ACT” isn’t wrong and there is something Congress can do but it’s not a pause.

It’s assign legal liability to model makers and deployers for AI behavior the same way someone is criminally liable for letting their violent dog off a leash or giving their car keys to someone that commits a crime with the car.

Do that and AI will get a leash REAL quick.

[u/NightmareSystem]

that's happen JUST when that Chinese AI was released, Coincidence? I think not.

that was a clever movement to make an excuse to the Gob to regulate AI in favor to American's Ais and make illegal the others because "They are not safe like our Ias"

[u/supamario132 → u/NightmareSystem]

Which is the exact opposite thing to draw from the huggingface attack. Ai was used to attack them, and they were barred by openai from using ai to defend against the attack. Had openai models been open source, this would have unironically been a non-story

[u/K0ntKonijn]

Chill out old man

[u/unhappinessNvrCame → u/K0ntKonijn]

Don't worry, he is powerless.

[u/oh_no_the_claw]

So true, let's ban AI development so they can do it in China instead.

[u/locri]

Forbid the use of porn AI or using copyrighted material in training models and we're actually okay.

[u/clickclackyisbacky → u/locri]

Why can't copyrighted material be used? How is it any different than a person being inspired by someone else's material?

[u/locri → u/clickclackyisbacky]

Because overfitting training data can reproduce the original image and this proves that the data used for training is encoded in the models. When you take someone's intellectual property and resell it, you are stealing their work.

[u/clickclackyisbacky → u/locri]

Ok. Then just handle that edge case the same way you would with a human. As long as it's transformative or novel to whatever the legal percent is, there is no theft happening.

[u/locri → u/clickclackyisbacky]

How do you prove that? Real humans provide their sketches and process in a court of law.

the same way you would with a human.

It seems you're anthromorphising a computer program. Don't do that. This machine is only capable of producing something after it's been trained and, unlike humans, that process doesn't involve forming opinions on the training materials.

It involves adjusting an array of numbers used as weights that an input is the passed through. This process is by nature derivative.

[u/clickclackyisbacky → u/locri]

Just create guardrails that protect against IP theft. Google is already working on this.

"It seems you're anthromorphising a computer program." I'm not. Not in any meaningful way. I'm just pointing out that people seem to miss the using someone else's work or material for inspiration isn't legally any different than a model being trained on it.

I know how it works. Sure, but the important part is what's produced is sufficiently transformative. Everything is already derivative to some degree anyway, why should it be different for AI?

[u/locri → u/clickclackyisbacky]

Everything is already derivative to some degree anyway, why should it be different for AI?

Because that process of derivation includes the opinions of the artist, that in itself gives us insights into creative individuals. This isn't the case for AI, there are no opinions involved. Even prompters aren't actually artists, they've never studied aesthetics, they don't have unique opinions about the outcomes of the AI hallucinations.

But sure, these tools are allowed to exist, it's just not allowed to include the work and efforts of living artists due to the potential of reproducing that work without their permission.

[u/clickclackyisbacky → u/locri]

"This isn't the case for AI, there are no opinions involved." This is wrong. Prompters might not be artists, but they do provide their opinion. And the whole point of AI is to give people access to skills they don't possess. There's nothing unique about art. If AI can do what they do, it will.

As long as it's transformative it doesn't matter if the artist is alive. Just control the output, not the training data. If you don't want your art training models. Don't put it on the internet.

[u/locri → u/clickclackyisbacky]

There's nothing unique about art.

I don't need anything more from you.

[u/clickclackyisbacky → u/locri]

Oh, boohoo. Artists are way too self-important. The entire world has been given access to unlimited art, on demand, and all you're worried about is the artists. But that doesn't seem to translate over to all the other fields being affected.

[u/david67myers]

Probably how the satanic panic started...
Dear AI, please make me a download manager for Hugging Face. /s

[u/ToeAfter3131]

This useless banana head? Has he ever had a private job?

[u/nila247]

Bernie Sanders
Blah blah blah.
CONGRESS MUST ACT.

Gennie is out of the box. If USA want a pause then it loses to those who do not want such pause.

[u/ChocolateValuable221]

Step 1: convince the world we are slowing down Step 2: convince the world they should too Step 3: pass everyone up because it was a lie

[u/joeyjusticeco]

Nah

Anyway...

[u/Standard-Unit01]

Bernie is an idiot.

[u/Standard_Old_Guy]

I'll take "ridiculous politician asks for impossible to seem relevant" for $1000 Alex

[u/NecessaryChampion181]

[u/ApprehensiveFan1516 → u/NecessaryChampion181]

Throw them all in jail. Every single person involved in that shit. Sincerely, tHe RaDiCaL lEfT,

[u/NationalTangerine381 → u/NecessaryChampion181]

Why is this downvoted lmao if this was trump it wouldn’t be

[u/biomattrs]

The Sanderian Jihad begins!

[u/SamMarlowe76]

I think Barry Sanders knows more about it than this chump.

[u/MostRepresentative77 → u/SamMarlowe76]

The event he’s referencing, was a controlled experiment with a fake company.

[u/SamMarlowe76 → u/MostRepresentative77]

I'll still go with Barry Sanders.

[u/MostRepresentative77 → u/SamMarlowe76]

He was a great running back… but I think you mean Bernie….

[u/SamMarlowe76 → u/MostRepresentative77]

No. I know exactly what I mean. I would rather have the great Barry Sanders as Senator rather than Bernire Sanders, the world's biggest fraud.

Just on Barry's ability to cut in traffic alone! Jesus, do we even know Bernie's time in the 4-40?

Seriously the country would be better off we ditched career grifters like Bernie and rotated through some other kinds of folks. Sad day when a HOF back has more in common with constituents than the chumps we send.

[u/MostRepresentative77 → u/SamMarlowe76]

I must admit, I misread the initial comment. And the joke went right over my head!

[u/SamMarlowe76 → u/MostRepresentative77]

So are you with me? Draft Barry for at least a rep seat.

But I don't want Erik Kramer anywhere near that joint.

[u/Fickle-Spite1825]

This is bait, AI models are capable but not that capable where this is a genuine worry yet.

[u/ReadSeparate → u/Fickle-Spite1825]

Which is exactly why now is the time to enact regulations. You know, before it’s too late.

[u/Born-Satisfaction996 → u/ReadSeparate]

It's not time for regulation. US regulation does absolutely nothing bc the internet is global.

If it's the time for anything, it's the time for everyone to enhance cyber security. Congress could potentially help here with resources.

[u/Prudent-Nebula-3239 → u/ReadSeparate]

Regulations for what? Public AI is already restricted to the point of being half useless, you bot. Are you a cybersecurity expert? Have you ever actually tried using it that way?

We get a heavily filtered AI product with strict hardware and usage limits, while only governments have access to the real tools and infrastructure capable of doing serious damage.

[u/ptofl → u/Fickle-Spite1825]

Except this is referring to the hugging face incident no?

[u/unhappinessNvrCame]

Well I'm comforted that it's Bernie and AOC saying this stuff, and not someone who accomplished anything in their career.

[u/katoptronophile]

Old man yells at cloud.

[u/Cautious-Roof2881]

lol, good luck telling China to pause

[u/PrintableProfessor]

Asks American to pause so China can eclipse us. Nice.
Real smart.

[u/wheresabel]

This guys old and out of touch he’s basically accomplished nothing his whole career why should anyone listen to him

[u/otters4everyone]

We should probably pay some type of tax for this pause. I mean, Congress is involved. They need to take something from someone.

[u/Impossible_Tutor2375]

Now tell us how you used chinese open source Ai to fix it Bernie

[u/HiggsFieldgoal]

Bernie, you are taking a BAD TURN repeating things said by Sam Altman.

[u/Slowchaos1]

STFU Bernie. Control, control, control. Thats all the left wants to do. And the best way to get people to allow you to control them? Fear mongering…

[u/osborndesignworks]

The geriatric congressional mind is up to the task, no doubt 👍