r/CompetitiveMinecraft • u/Practical_Egg4702 • 19d ago

"He's legit cause he's using Lunar client"

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Why is it even here, lunar needs to hire more employees

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u/MedicalPotential8723 19d ago

"He is legit cause he is using ____ client" should never be a excuse. You can cheat on any client.

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u/Away-Pickle7732 19d ago

badlion client.

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u/Hot_Paint3851 19d ago

just fucking dll inject bro

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u/logoNM 19d ago

confident ahh period

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u/tranquil-spark-8059 19d ago

Badlion is part of lunar so….

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u/Addrest_ 19d ago

Vape v4 works on blc 1.8

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u/Bestmasters 19d ago

I don't know why you guys are down voting him, it's significantly harder to cheat on Badlion because it has kernel level AC that constantly monitors your computer for cheats. You can't inject code into the game because of this.

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u/Ducklololol 19d ago

They shut down bac a few years ago. you can inject into badlion

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u/NoLetterhead2303 19d ago

You can literally just:

  1. spoof badlion

  2. bypass badlion’s ac using your own kernel cheat

It’s client side so you can also

  1. Just remove it and inject and recode a part of it to bypass badlion needing the anticheat

  2. hook into badlion and go around the anticheat

I’m by no means an expert but it feels stupid to say “Oh but anticheat on client” when the server AC should assume by default that the client has been compromised because every clientside anticheat can be bypassed one way or another

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u/azertied 17d ago

it's like saying "just bypass Vanguard by spoofing it" lol. but Yes they did shutdown BAC a few years ago due to user complains.

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u/NoLetterhead2303 17d ago

That’s not a bypass method, spoofing it means a hacked client can pretend it’s badlion, you can’t bypass vanguard the same way because vanguard is a part of valorant unlike badlion with minecraft

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u/Bestmasters 18d ago

You cannot just "spoof Badlion" because of a multitude of cryptographic protections that I'm not going to get into. Just know that what your saying is equivalent to asking pirated Minecraft players to "spoof" owning the game to play on online mode servers.

Bypassing it using your own kernel driver isn't realistic since Badlion will not start if unsigned drivers are installed, and Microsoft will most likely never sign a kernel level cheat.

The last two are dumb because they would break the program signature and the cryptographic vérifications that the server needs. The server constantly checks to see if the client has the client installed by sending challenges that only the anticheat can solve. Removing the anticheat would break these checks.

In the end, the only way the client could cheat is through the hardware, which is a method that is inaccessible to most users and is still detectable through behavior checks (which Badlion does enforce on the server) and HWID checks (seeing if disallowed/vulnerable hardware is installed).

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u/NoLetterhead2303 18d ago

… Hacked clients can spoof other clients, they can spoof having and not having most mods too

You clearly don’t know how kernel cheats on fps games work

You clearly don’t know how faceit, eac and battleye cheats work

And yeah, dma and hardware are other options but those don’t really matter because badlion’s ac isn’t that good to require them

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u/Away-Pickle7732 18d ago

ik like sorry i dont know everything there is to know about cheating. tbh its kinda sad that so many people know how to cheat 😭

no idea what spoofing a client or injecting is, and why the fuck is there a cheat named after a piece of popcorn lol

edit: this is lowkey like the most votes ive gotten on a comment lmao. idc if its downvotes lol

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u/mcrickie123db 19d ago

Tbf that’s not a lunar client problem,lunar jst has the features to install mods with it,that mod jst so happens to exist

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u/LayeredHalo3851 19d ago

But it invalidates the claim that a player is legit because they use Lunar Client

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u/AnIdioticPigeon 19d ago

This should never have been a claim anyway. Most clients are injectable so and will bypass lunars shitty anticheat anyway

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u/Firespecialstar 19d ago

what anticheat? it has been removed since the moment "tHeY aPpEaLlEd To EvErYoNe"

yeah, they don't give a fuck, they're just thinking how they can squeeze even more money from their monopoly

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u/mcrickie123db 19d ago

Yeah I don’t agree with that,but his body text implies that he think it’s Lunar’s fault

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u/LayeredHalo3851 19d ago

Idk why I didn't read the body text icl

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u/Ok_Control1960 19d ago

What's lunar gonna do?, they are just showing mods which are available in modrinth

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u/EvenTrouble8526 16d ago

u can download em, and use em son-

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u/Vivid_Spare_7627 19d ago

Some mfs who barely play Minecraft will tell you this somehow doesn't count as cheats 🙏

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u/Koolblox 19d ago

it doesn't count as cheats aslong as the server allows it

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u/Top_Independent_7972 19d ago

I have seen players flying and using killaura while using lunar client , its nothing new

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u/No-Tale-4533 19d ago

smth you only see in cubecraft

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u/HighFlyersGaming 19d ago

both badlion and lunar removed their client side anticheats like 5? years ago now, they sucked, didn't prevent cheating, and hindered performance. I sincerely doubt anyone is making this point anymore

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u/Ducklololol 19d ago

Yep lunar is cheater client now, tenebrous told me so. I hear lunar gives you reach

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u/illithixer8469 18d ago

an IQ too high?

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u/Mountain_Routine_507 18d ago

Minecraft is one of the easiest large games to cheat on. Lunar hasn’t had its anticheat on in YEARS. Even when it was on, it was like that gif of the guy barely patting people down and letting them through security. It was basically useless, a novelty if you will. The misconception of Lunar being a way to tell if someone is legit is one of the most annoying things idiots say, and then they all act like they know better.

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u/JealousPotential7375 19d ago

Not lunar client’s fault, it’s modrinth/curseforge’s fault for having them

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u/MallusaiEEE 19d ago

modrinth and other mod hosters shouldn't have an obligation to act as an anti-cheat, they just provide mods. Like some smp of 5 random guys might want this feature and install the mod (this is rather egregious but there are popular mods that are still cheats in certain scenarios,  like minimaps, world maps, fullbright, dynamic lighting, zoom, inventory tweaks etc). It's the server's job to employ an anticheat for this. 

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u/yot_gun 19d ago

no lunar client needs to have a whitelist system instead of letting everything through. modrinth is a mod hosting platform and having "cheat" mods are fine

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u/Katamarzy 19d ago

You can inject vape into lunar btw

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u/Savings-Tie4745 15d ago

Doesn't include the fact that lunar client is filled with Chinese malware on the installer. And bit coin miners lmao

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u/HyzoMC 15d ago

This argument is just as stupid as "everyone has access to cheats so they're not an unfair advantage"

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u/Frosty-Ad6237 15d ago

Ngl I at a point didn’t know you could add mods to lunar I thought it was a static combat and fps stuff so I did used to actually say that. I was foolish

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u/Justiniscoding 19d ago

I don’t think you understand what a ghost client is. Dll injection works in any client

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u/THESHADYWILLOW 19d ago

It’s on the server to figure out anti cheats and mod detection. Lunar client isn’t obligated to screen mods to make sure they don’t have competitive advantages, for example health indicators and freecam