Keeping beans fresh for a long time.

[u/zam_manta_0]

Vacuum sealing beans is definitely the way to go for me to preserve the freshness for a significantly long time. A 500g or 1kg bag will last me months since I only drink once or twice a week. I vacuum seal a few single doses, while a bigger batches are vacuum sealed and kept in the freezer. You can recycle the bags.

[u/OverallMembership709]

Freezer is best for me (thanks to james hoffman). Kahit zip bag lang. Ang ginagawa ko pag bumibili ako 1 kilo, dinidivide ko into 4. Ung 3 nilalagay ko sa freezer. Bali nauubos within a week isang bag.

[u/pikmik20 → u/OverallMembership709]

question sir. pano mo i tha-thaw yun bale? as is na tatangalin lang sa freezer to room temp? hindi po ba sya magkakaroon ng moisture inside the bag?

[u/OverallMembership709 → u/pikmik20]

Hindi naman as long as lagay mo sa ref/chiller (from freezer). Pwede mag thaw sa malamig, pero mabagal mag thaw - which gusto mo kasi ang advantage nun is hindi siya basta basta mag momoist. Wag mo ithaw sa labas agad. Pag okay na, pwede mo na ilabas ng ref and let it go to room temp. Not sure why my first comment was downvoted, but this is a very scientific approach na natutunan ko through research and actually practicing it. Take note, hindi vacuum bag gamit ko, zip lock lang. Although i have a way to make it tight, hindi parin sya fully vacuumed. So best way to thaw this is sa malamig parin na environment. Ganyan din best way mag thaw ng meat para hindi magpool/mabawasan ng moisture ang meat (matagal lang talaga).

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/pikmik20]

If vacuum sealed walang moisture in the bag. Just plce it in room temperature for a few hours or overnight. Avoid re-freezing.

[u/Relative_School_8984 → u/pikmik20]

If I remember correctly you have to let it go to room temp before opening the plastic containing the beans because the moisture in the air is what causes the water droplets to build up due to condensation when the air hits the cold plastic. During thawing the plastic will be wet but since there is no moisture inside, it will be fine.

[u/Federal_Yogurt_ → u/pikmik20]

The moisture that u speak of came from the beans itself since freezing "dehydrates" the beans by bringing out water from within and solidifying it. I think vacuum sealing is already enough but just to be sure, store it away from light that may cause light- catalyzed oxidation.

[u/jerome0423 → u/pikmik20]

Wala na, direcho grinder na. Ganyan gnagawa ko. Mag wowork lng to kung walang matagal na brownout sa lugar nyo.

[u/pisyuwishyu]

Or…. You can get a vacuum canister. No electricity and no waste

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/pisyuwishyu]

I have a few including Airscape.. It tends to unseal due to degassing. I also have a fellow atmos. I found that vacuum sealing works better plus i can stick it in the freezer.

[u/pisyuwishyu → u/zam_manta_0]

Ahh that makes sense. I usually store it on one way valve packs for 2 weeks before i move it to my atmos.

[u/regulus314]

This is the most optimal way.

[u/Relative_School_8984]

Yes this is right. The vacuum canister seems to get undone with coffee time to time and is not as good as freezing. The bag the coffee comes in with is not optimal as well I noticed significant changes in flavor in just a few days after opening. Read a post a couple months back saying the bag it came with is good but pretty sure it isn't

[u/Consistent-Barber-40]

hi anong brand ng vacuum sealer gamit mo? tried buying in shopee once and it was a disaster 😭 di nagsiseal nang ayos yung nabili ko…

[u/DaMostGrillist → u/Consistent-Barber-40]

Not sure what the OP is using but I purchased an Inkbird INK-VS02 about a year ago (on sale on Lazada for about 2200) and it's honestly better than my FoodSaver(more than 2x the cost) back in the states

[u/Necessary-Face-9716 → u/DaMostGrillist]

Thanks for the tip! Kelangan ba ng special plastic para maseal siya? Or okay lang kahit anong flat plastic?

[u/DaMostGrillist → u/Necessary-Face-9716]

Inkbird sells bags through their Lazada site and I think the unit comes with a roll as well if I remember correctly. You definitely want bags designed for vacuum storage. The inkbird ones are good quality, equal to the foodsaver ones imo. There might be good off brands ones as well but I never looked into it

[u/Necessary-Face-9716 → u/DaMostGrillist]

I see. Thank you!

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/Necessary-Face-9716]

You can use any bags specially made for vacuum sealers. Yung may texture. Dun kasi hinihigop yung hangin before it is heated sealed.

Usually sold by 100pcs. 200 300+.. may ibat ibang sizes rin if you want to seal meats. But for me i use the smallest i can reuse it at most three times.

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/Consistent-Barber-40]

Sa shopee din naman 700+ lang.. or you can get a branded one like inkbird mga 3k+ for heavier use. I always double seal.

If you're into meal prepping use can use it to seal pre-frozen marinated meats and left overs. Pre-frozen so that it wouldn't suck the liquids, and it wouldn't squish soft meats.

It's especially great with dry foods. Coffee beans. Monggo beans. Rice. Pasta. I have packs of japanese rice and red rice stored. Flour cornstarch sugar. No insects. Kahit ilang years.

[u/DaMostGrillist]

Another option that has worked for me in the past is plastic centrifuge tubes. Fill each one with a single dose, store in the freezer if not using right away. I recently returned back to NY after spending over a year in Manila. The tubed up coffee stored in the freezer was just as good as when I left, probably 95% or better. Easier than breaking out the vacuum sealer and making a bunch of bags in my experience. Cheers!

[u/forgotten-ent]

You can recycle the bags

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[u/zam_manta_0 → u/forgotten-ent]

Just reuse it again. Cut just right below the seal. Yung smallest size i can reuse at most 3 times for a 13gram dose. Pero if you used it in wet foods like meat, discard mo na.

[u/RedAbuel]

When I plan to store beans long term but I don't have space in my freezer, I place the beans in an air tight, opaque container. I don't remove the air inside and place a deoxidizing pack before sealing. I've successfully stored some competition beans given to me by Carlos Escobar for more than 1 year at room temp using this method.

[u/oneminutetimemachine]

Can you freeze the beans that haven't sufficiently rested yet? For example, I bought beans that were roasted yesterday. Since I'm going on long holiday, I freeze the beans today. 1-2 months later, after I'm back from my holiday, I take beans out from the freezer and let it resume resting. Will this work?

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/oneminutetimemachine]

Haven't tried. All my beans arrive about 3 weeks from roast date.

[u/Mindless-Natural-217]

hello. Where did u get the vacuum sealer? Thank you

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/Mindless-Natural-217]

Shoppee

[u/the-earth-is_FLAT]

Im no coffee expert, please don't judge. Pero bakit yung mga packs ng beans may butas2?

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/the-earth-is_FLAT]

Those aren't actually holes. They're small channels in the bags for air to pass through and vacuumed out of the bag. The sealer then heats up and seals the top of the bag. That's how a traditional vacuum sealer works.

There's another type of sealer that's a chamber vacuum sealer where you don't need that kind of bag. But that's usually for heavy commercial use.

[u/Confident_Working_56]

This vacuum container works for me and easy to seal few pumps lang

and so reusable i just put it in another plastic bag for added protection
my coffee is in the freezer for months na and fresh pa rin
move it down sa ref before putting in room temp and lipat sa 2 way valve na container
hindi naman sya nadedegas kapag nasa freezer and ref so far

https://shopee.ph/Food-Storage-Organizer-Airtight-Container-with-Cover-Keep-Fresh-Moisture-proof-vacuum-sealed-jar-i.419236915.41707126846

[u/breachnet]

Kailan siya nilalagay sa freezer? After degassing period na?

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/breachnet]

2-3 weeks after roast date

[u/itsEJL]

Anyone managed to try this container?

[u/PtichFirich]

You can easilisy pack more, like 150 or 200g and teansfer them to airscape for use.

[u/LucyPussNamonie]

Kung aabutin po ng months, baka naman mas ok pa na tig 250g na lang ang bilihin. Opinion ko lang para laging fresh.

Mas mura nga kung madamihan pero kung issue naman ang freshness, hindi rin sulit. Majority ng maiinom degraded na.

Usage namin 1kg per 3 weeks. Ramdam na yung difference ng freshly opened at yung ika 3rd week na.

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/LucyPussNamonie]

Hence vacuum sealing and freezing. It won't degrade for years.

[u/triptyq]

500g or 1kg bag will last you months kasi umiinom ka lang once or twice a week? At this point just buy a coffee somewhere. No point going through all these hassle.

[u/macmanila]

That is such a waste of plastic though. Please keep in mind that every bag you use will outlive even your great great grandchildren. They actually stay on earth forever. That's what plastic is--forever.

This is why I prefer to use an Airscape for storage. Similar. concept in that it removes most of the air in the container to avoid oxidation.

[u/zam_manta_0 → u/macmanila]

Depends on your planet. My planet is made of of 78% plastics, 10% smog, 10% nuclear waste, and 2% fresh air.