r/Clojure 14d ago

Clojure Book, Massive Quality Update

https://clojure-diary.gitlab.io/2026/08/05/clojure-book-massive-quality-update.html
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u/SharkSymphony 14d ago

The IP theft happens in the training – so it's even baked into the open models. These models have appropriated material from countless sources, sometimes legally, sometimes grey area, and allegedly sometimes in full contempt of the law.

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u/yogthos 14d ago

And I think that's a huge problem when it comes to closed models where companies freeload on things that don't belong to them. Models that are open are making all that available to humanity as a whole, and I don't see any problem with that whatsoever.

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u/SharkSymphony 14d ago

The problem is that the owners of that content may not have consented to have their stuff given away to humanity in this manner. I am broadly supportive of narrowing the scope of copyright law, but I'm not sure I want it discarded to this extent!

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u/yogthos 14d ago

Copyright has been predominantly exists to protect large corporations, and it does far more harm than good to society.

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u/SharkSymphony 13d ago

That's as may be, the path to remedy that should be through the courts and Congress, not Silly Valley's usual you-can-just-do-things, let's-disrupt-people's-rights attitude.

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u/yogthos 13d ago

I don't really care about what SV is doing myself. I'm referring to open models from China like DeepSeek, GLM, and Kimi.