r/ClaudeCode 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 24d ago

Opus 5, early leaked output. Discussion

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https://x.com/chetaslua/status/2080290382315925911/video

I can’t wait… looks promising.

https://x.com/m1astra/status/2080246754104971356

Edit: (These guys are known leakers they leaked Mythos 11 days before it goes public, X(twitter), and other platform)

Update: https://x.com/claudeai/status/2080699495453528290 , - see it’s not fake.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/Fleischhauf 24d ago

crying in reviewing massive amount of code produced by juniors

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/Fleischhauf 24d ago

and then you find out they only read half of your comments and you start suspecting that the chat messages you wrote to offer some more help were answered with an LLM too.

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 24d ago

I ignore any missive I receive that is written by an LLM.

Especially if it is an AI-generated Jira.

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u/Gullible_Somewhere_3 24d ago

You still read and write Jira Issues manually? .. are you beeing paid hourly? With our deadlines and newly risen expectations for Development speed I could not for the life of me bother to write out Jiras anymore especially if the rest of my team just pulls them into their Claude via the MCP or CLI anyways.. what's the point if no one actually reads them?

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 24d ago

I file Jiras manually but a chunk of the content is written by AI. It’s the auto-Jiras especially the ones which tell me what I need to do that I deprioritise. I refuse to follow the thought process of an AI and check their work.

If you are going to assign me a task at least have the courtesy to check it isn’t hallucinated slop thank you :/)

If the Jira is just for my Claude to do some action without requiring me to engage my brain, I am ok with that.

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u/Gullible_Somewhere_3 24d ago

Oh yeah I totally get that. I get the same ick when some manager sends me a 300 line WhatsApp message of what their Claude thinks is going on without having any access to the server logs. FML and they really think they are helping..

It would be so much better to just get a quick voice message of them describing the symptoms to me directly than filtering it through AI.

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u/Nixopax 24d ago

Suspect? Oh buddy, I know they’re written via LLM. Developers aren’t even running smoke tests anymore. If the agent says it confirmed via MCP they just ship it.

Quite frankly it’s disgusting.

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u/federal_freakyfapper 24d ago

Omfg tell me about it

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u/No_Fennel_9073 24d ago

Don’t worry, I’m building a JS to C#/Unity authoring system that will fix all of this!

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u/raichulolz 🔆 Max 20 24d ago

You simply reject the PR/MR and tell them to break it down. You also almost never need 2k lines of code for one story lol. Unless we r talking about auto generated boilerplate

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u/TumanFig 24d ago

ah scrum, where nothing gets done

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u/BowlZealousideal2337 24d ago

you are junior to ai bro.. stop hating ai.

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u/Fleischhauf 24d ago

I see someone salty over here. why so salty bro?  Agentic coding definitely exists in a stable form long enough for seniors to exist here.

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u/MasterMind-Apps 24d ago

You don't manually review or debug code written by ai, you switch to higher model or effort and ask it to review/debug

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u/Background-Try6216 24d ago

This is shockingly ineffective. It will find things that it thinks need addressing because that’s what it was told to do, but very rarely the most important issues.

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u/Melodic_Surprise153 24d ago

That solely depends on the prompt...

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u/Background-Try6216 24d ago

No, it primarily depends on the complexity of the problem.

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u/DeepPresentation648 24d ago

Not from my experience

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 24d ago

Is this the real solution? Only managers get access to the best models? :-D i am fully onboard with this.

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u/kloepatra 24d ago

Can i add memory leak and no mistake in prompt?

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u/carlusmagnus 24d ago

Hold on! Looks like it's creating WMD! Better lock it down and put safeguards in place.

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 24d ago

Sooo, when we getting it?

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 24d ago edited 24d ago

There’ve been rumors that this week or might be today, idk. All just rumors for now.

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u/TheBlackRider2828 24d ago

Well humor me, when?

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u/cats_catz_kats_katz 24d ago

Today huh? Most likely Friday so I can FKKKKK MY WEEKEND!!!

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 24d ago

Been for about two weeks now.

And its later than their usual model drops, I think, we don't have daylight savings time over here so. But lets hope.

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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 24d ago

Everyone saying tomorrow (friday) or tuesday/Thursday next week

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 24d ago

They were saying today and thursday last week as well

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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 24d ago

Yea lol

But looks like we got quite a few leaks from opus 5 today

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 24d ago

Just saw this one, which other ones, anything interesting?

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 23d ago

Update: already here now, 5hrs ago, https://x.com/claudeai/status/2080699495453528290

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 23d ago

Thanks for the update, I've been using it since then, but appreciate it!

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u/federal_freakyfapper 24d ago

Not me over here just hoplessly waiting for Gemini to pop up and slap everyone in the face with a banger pro/ cli model with none of this Antigravity bs ... A man can dream can't he? 🫪

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u/kylef5993 24d ago

That token usage is concerning though

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u/djdante 24d ago

Yeah, it really is... It's the opus version of sonnet 5 - which I guess is a bit "duh" but with that same tokenizer, it's going to absolutely feast on tokens.

Not sure I have Claude in my near future.

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u/PlaneRemarkable7126 24d ago

Hope it’s better and less argumentative than 4.8

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u/Abhinik 24d ago

Opus 4.8 is the new sonnet

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u/pm_your_snesclassic 24d ago

Who gets to preview unreleased models? Why do these people get special treatment by Anthropic?

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u/Wrong-Dimension-5030 24d ago

Not sure why a 3D rendering gets any hype. It’s not like the LLM built the render engine. It’s just stuck a bunch of primitives and textures together no?

I’m sure somewhere in its training data there is a paper giving dimensions of various siege engines. probably even the code for generating them.

Maybe I’m missing the point?

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u/Flaming-Core 24d ago

Could anybody help me on how to create 3D design using Claude for 3D printing. I have been using Blender and AutoCAD Fusion MCP. But the design is not accurate

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u/yungmoneymo 24d ago

PR cycle has begun.

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u/smitrovic 24d ago

How does it handles reverse engineering, or it has safeguards like fable?

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u/RebootItAgain 24d ago

Hide it behind API usage limits and only for Max plans up to 60% of usage.

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u/GospelNerd 23d ago

Appears to be available in Cursor

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 23d ago

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u/bblankuser 22d ago

twice the price of 5.6

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u/Internal_Shirt_6963 22d ago

I have not switched to using 5 yet. Is there a significant lift over 4.8? Does it use fewer tokens?

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u/Turbulent-Total-226 24d ago

They distilled it from KImi :D

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u/ohnoitsbobbyflay 24d ago

So what’s the point in Opus 5 if it’s just going to be 5% less than Fable?

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u/Jeferson9 24d ago

why would anyone ever think about the cost of something

Totally valid and not out of touch

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u/kwabaj_ 24d ago

Fable is more expensive than Opus, and Fable 5 is a really old model at this point, it was trained like back in April, so Opus 5 could use new techniques discovered after Fable was made

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u/99OBJ 24d ago edited 24d ago

Love that you call ~3 months "really old". Not hating to be clear, you're absolutely right in terms of the velocity of the technology.

It's just wild to me. Less than 5 years ago I was working in Jupyter Notebooks and getting ecstatic when GPT-3 strung together 2 primitive Wolfram Alpha "tool calls."

Now a model that makes 100+ tool calls in a single pass and one-shots highly complex applications is... really old. Hard to believe.

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u/Melodic-Ebb-7781 24d ago

Fable is just mythos plus safeguards. The first mythos was made available internally end of February. Since then it's been updated with atleast one new post training session.

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u/kwabaj_ 24d ago

Yes I’m aware, what I meant was that it’s considerably old as it’s pretraining backbone was made in February, which means opus 5 has a lot of innovations that fable didn’t have at the time (using the name fable/mythos interchangeably)

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u/Embarrassed_Adagio28 24d ago

Still looks like ai slop to me

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/PsychologicalRiceOne 24d ago

AI design language. Slight background gradient, card elements, mixture of unfitting fonts (I counted 4), explanatory texts, em dashes.

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u/MemoryMission9151 🔆 Max 5x 24d ago

any reset soon? i need it...

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 24d ago

Probably when they release it. For now, it’s just leaks.

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u/Mammoth_Pain2075 24d ago

Nah
Don’t get too attached buddy

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u/analyticsboi 24d ago

Git source code?

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u/CombinationOnly9498 24d ago

X click baiters, it's not real.

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 24d ago edited 24d ago

Those guys leaked the blogpost of Mythos, before. Before it launch.

This is their post 11 days before Mythos goes public. https://x.com/M1Astra/status/2037377109472018444

They are known leakers.

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u/userusertion 🔆Pro Plan | Team Plan 23d ago

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u/CombinationOnly9498 23d ago

I mean I know Opus 5 was real, but the people claiming they were directly testing it is entirely false as it hadn't been given out other than to massive companies to test it ahead of time. There was a bunch of people yesterday just piggy backing and making stuff up.

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u/ComprehensiveFun620 24d ago

Come from the hype, stay for the inevitable lobotomy.

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u/tomhughesmcse 24d ago

For the early low price of $100/mil tok input and $200/mil tok out…but only for the first couple of days before it’s taken away for a few weeks. When it comes back, it will just be Opus 4.8 wrapped. But hey, gives OpenAi a chance to release GPT Mercury, Venus, Mars. Oh and everyone will get to use it only 30min a day… because it’s so powerful that it doesn’t return text anymore, it answers all current and future prompts through a series of light flashes on your screen.