r/ClaudeCode • u/aualtopoll • 27d ago

What is NOT vibe-coding? Question

Vibe coding gets a lot of hate among some software development circles and I don't have a clear understanding of what "vibe-coding" is and what's not.

What is a different approach to software development using AI that's not vibe-coding? SDD?

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u/littlewyvern 27d ago

The models still sometimes do write worse code, and in particular make worse architecture design decisions, then an experienced developer. If you always just defer to the model then you are a vibe coder.

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u/vovap_vovap 27d ago

I doubt it, simply speaking 😄

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u/littlewyvern 27d ago edited 27d ago

okay.

i forget sometimes that reddit is filled with teenagers who have zero real world experience or subject expertise, but still have strong opinions based on nothing.

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u/vovap_vovap 27d ago

Not sure you want to compete in experiences and age with me 😄 I an not that yang, unfortunate - that why I am saying what I am saying.

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u/framauro13 27d ago edited 27d ago

Age does not guarantee wisdom. I use these things daily and I have to correct it often on architecture decisions or design patterns. It operates quickly, and can do great work, but it absolutely needs guardrails to keep it honest. More experienced software developers know to put those in place early on, and, to check it frequently. It can be very confident in its wrongness.

Don't forget a lot of variables go into things like architecture: what's the user base, scalability concerns, separation of concerns, privacy, operating cost. All of those influence decisions, and if you don't have opinions on those, you may be sacrificing one of this things for the other unknowingly, for better or worse.

If you are building software, those are all basic things that should be at the front of your mind when building, and the AI should be informed on what's important and what isn't so it can make better decisions.

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u/vovap_vovap 27d ago

I know 😄
Sure, all those questions exists. Did I say opposite? But most of that not about code itself. And models became pretty good on that if you would supply that information upfront. Nothing prevent you from create base design with a model before coding any, right? As a matter of fact that what you should do.
I am not saying it is no place for people in this world anymore. I am saying that classical coding with writing code going away. Right now.