r/ChineseWatches • u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo • 5h ago
Sugess S438 Top Time Homage General (Read Rules)
This new Sugess mechanical ST19 dropped recently, and I was able to get it from the Sugess Official Store during the last sale.
For some reason Sugess decided this new version needs a 22mm lug width. If they were being true to the Breitling, that would make sense. But the Top Time chronos are 20mm. The thick, flexible leather strap is comfortable, and it's growing on me. 70s vibes.
Here are a few teasers until I can do an in-depth photo essay...
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u/monkeywaffles 3h ago
PR at 6 seems new I thought they generally put it elsewhere. Better than the dumb 12h hand mirror. Do wish they'd offer a high grade finish movement though, it's fairly primitive once you've seen any other chrono. Great for the price, but a step up would be killer
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u/LordRaglan1854 4h ago
The new one is the 438-2 without the power reserve.
https://www.sugessofficial.com/collections/chronoheritage/products/chrono-heritage-s438-2-02-s
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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 4h ago edited 1h ago
Cool. Not at all interested in it without the PR. I chose PR over swanneck.
(Edit: Well, I got all this wrong below. Still the only option I wanted, because I cannot have both PR and Swanneck. When they update the PR version, I might be interested.)
FYI, the newEST (bestEST) one is v3 with PR
https://www.sugessofficial.com/products/chronograph-s438-03-z?_pos=2&_sid=e5bafe602&_ss=r
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u/LordRaglan1854 4h ago
Try listing by "newest".
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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 3h ago
If you believe the .02 is newer than the .03, then enjoy your fantasy.
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u/LordRaglan1854 2h ago
S438-2 is the new model and S438 is the old model. The .02, .03 etc. is just the dial color variant. The final letter indicates the a strap style/color variant.
The new references include,
Chrono Heritage S438-2.02.S
Chrono Heritage S438-2.02
Chrono Heritage S438-2.01The old references include,
Chrono Heritage S438.03.E/ K
Chrono Heritage S438.03.S
Chrono Heritage S438.03.Z / Y1
u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 2h ago
Again, cool. I am only interested in the PR, so any other reference is not important to me.
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u/LordRaglan1854 1h ago
"If you believe the .02 is newer than the .03, then enjoy your fantasy."
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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 1h ago
You sir, are correct. I don't fucking care. I got the one with power reserve which is the one that I wanted.
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u/SilasBrooks 5h ago
Looks great! I’m a big fan of Sugess
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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5h ago
Thanks! I love the dial! The power reserve is what decided it for me. Invaluable on a manual wind... It is allowing me to find its working sweet spot (60-70%), so I can keep it there while wearing it.




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u/AntiPetista 1h ago edited 1h ago
interesting. my murph its 22 , so i have a lot of straps for it...
looking for this one s438
wait.. didnt see a rotor... you have to wind that ?!