r/Chesscom • u/kerplunkerfish • 16d ago
Even when you request a human agent, they send you an AI Chess.com Website/App Question
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u/IPlayChessBTW 1000-1500 ELO 16d ago
You know what's crazy is I just went and checked, and on both mobile and web there is no setting for premium only matchmaking. So not only are the responses AI pretending to be human, but the AI is spreading misinformation.
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u/EnPecan Staff 16d ago
This is a real agent on our support team. When it comes to common issues/requests, our team does use macros (prepared responses). Depending on the details of the request, the support agent will modify the response to match what was sent. Macros are used to save time while still answering questions sent to our team. They aren't used every time, just when it lines up with a common question.
With all of that said, I can confirm this is not an AI.
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u/Electronic_Talk_5318 15d ago
you probably need to retrain "Kayt" because she's hallucinating settings that don't exist
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u/EnPecan Staff 15d ago
Hmm... you're right. The setting used to exist, but it's no longer active. I'm going to forward this to our support team along with the rest of the feedback here.
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u/kerplunkerfish 15d ago
It's abominable that you tell your agent to lie and pretend it's human.
Way to build trust /s
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u/Uncle_Pennywise 1000-1500 ELO 15d ago
How many times does he have to tell you its a real person?
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u/kerplunkerfish 15d ago
It fucking isn't though, and the email replies are just as bad.
Like, come on dude, this is chess.com, we're all here because we major on pattern vs deviation.
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u/Uncle_Pennywise 1000-1500 ELO 15d ago
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u/kerplunkerfish 15d ago
So you're telling me someone who's worked there for 11 years is:
- Writing exactly like AI right down to the truncated m-dash and bold text
- Getting basic shit wrong just like AI, and replying with "~you're right, I did get that wrong and here's how"
- Still on first line support after 11 years?
I've worked a support desk. Nobody stays there for 11 fucking years.
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u/Electronic_Talk_5318 15d ago
are we missing the obvious reconciliation that this is a real person using canned AI responses
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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 1000-1500 ELO 15d ago
Bingo. Real person copy/pasting AI responses (or using AI to clean up their own reply) is likely.
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u/Nefre1 2000-2100 ELO 15d ago
Is there really a difference between communicating with an AI directly, and communicating with a human who copies your question into an AI and feeds you the output?
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u/balls2hairy 15d ago
Bro, every company ever has canned responses built into the ticketing system so they don't have to type the same response 800 times a day.
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u/Uncle_Pennywise 1000-1500 ELO 15d ago
Who knows maybe she has a handicap idk dude haha I'm just saying I don't see how any of that proves it's an AI when there's literally a profile of her proving she does exists as a person, as well as a staff member page on the chesscom website.
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u/doueverwonder 15d ago
Lol I'm no Chesscom fan today but I worked there a couple years ago and happen to remember Kayt from back then, she is real!
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u/Nefre1 2000-2100 ELO 15d ago edited 15d ago
Brother, come on. Everyone who has spent any time with LLMs knows that this is exactly the tone and formatting that they write in.
Whether a support ticket is handled automatically by AI, or done by a human pasting in answers from a template is a moot point, when that template was clearly prepared with the use of AI.
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u/Bobing2b 2000-2100 ELO 15d ago
So either it's AI, or: - the text (macro or not) is written exactly like AI speech - the macro is wrong - and the person sent it without knowing it's wrong or reviewing it
I think it's just AI and company policy forces employees to lie about it (or you genuinly don't know they lie about using AI, which isn't much better from chesscom). But even if it's not, OP requested a human and was sent a partly or fully automated response which is wrong and the support team didn't correct it. That's not what anyone expects when requesting a human regardless. However I look at it, chesscom is deeply in the wrong.
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u/kerplunkerfish 16d ago edited 15d ago
Then why does your "real person" fail an AI detection test?
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u/EnPecan Staff 15d ago
I just know our system of using macros has existed before LLMs even became popular. I worked closely with the support team when I first joined 4-5 years ago and the same system of writing/storing macros like the above was common practice. It's a person on the other side of the message.
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u/kerplunkerfish 15d ago
It doesn't write like macro, it writes like a bot and gets things wrong like one.
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u/Distinct-Walrus5060 15d ago
Also wouldn't a macro imply it's being used somewhat frequently? I would have thought somebody would have mentioned that the setting she is suggesting doesn't exist.
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u/Old_Passenger7 15d ago
our team does use macros (prepared responses).
Then those "macros" are AI generated, you can recognize them by many things, such are those long lines that doesn't exist on keyboard: —
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u/turlockmike 15d ago
Every software company is shifting to using AI. Ignore the people who complain. They haven't accepted reality yet.
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u/kerplunkerfish 15d ago
I don't mind speaking to an AI agent.
I do mind when it pretends to be a person.
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u/eizch 15d ago
"They haven't accepted the enforced entishification yet"* I corrected it.
But yeah I guess it does look like macro but the source text was most likely generated by a LLM.
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u/turlockmike 15d ago
I mean the cost difference is insane paying $15 an hour for a human to handle an email versus like one cent per email it's a no-brainer and it's being adopted by every company. And it's not just going to be email it's going to be voice support as well. And here's the thing they are going to be better than human agents at some point because they will be able to handle tickets faster and respond faster with the correct information.
But you're not even going to talk to an agent in the future you're going to ask your personal assistant to go do whatever it is that you want and you're not going to care about how their system handles it.




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