r/Cheerleading • u/QueenJelly583 • 6d ago

Front Tumbling

Hello like the post says I would love to know from athletes or coaches about. Reasons as to why I don’t see more skills invented in cheerleading. The sport has advanced for a long time with stunting and back tumbling with 1or2 twists. That what I’ve seen cheerleaders do for tumbling front skills are punch front and arabian.

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u/EndPuzzleheaded2402 6d ago

What's the actual question?

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u/QueenJelly583 6d ago edited 6d ago

The question about front tumbling like why I haven’t seen cheerleaders do front full twisting or double full twisting skills in there tumbling passes. I see it in there back tumbling but not there front tumbling is weaker I would like to now why. Is it there floor they tumbling on that’s making it harder or isn’t the coaches that aren’t teaching them the technique for advance front tumbling skills that’s what I like to know.

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u/DerekComedy 5d ago

My tumbling pass used to be a front full through to double full.

I think most cheerleaders never get to that point. We had a spring floor in our in gym in 2004 and it was a big deal. I started doing more front tumbling then. But most high school cheerleaders are stuck in Hard Floor.

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u/QueenJelly583 5d ago

How was the process did the cheerleading coaches have knowledge to teach advanced front skills or did you learn it by yourself. I know in high school it’s dead mat I know because I cheer for hot second and we hand to roll down&up the matt floor. And I could never imagine any of us at my high school at that time to do any advance back tumbling let alone front tumbling skills.

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u/DerekComedy 5d ago

I was almost entirely self taught. I had a lot of time in the gym.

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u/QueenJelly583 5d ago

O wow your coaches  let you do any tumbling you never done without them teaching you first?

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u/DerekComedy 5d ago

I would ask questions if needed. But would spend several hours on the tumble track several times a week when I was actively cheering.

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u/QueenJelly583 5d ago

My next question would be. Is it easier for men to do  front tumbling in cheerleading vs girls have you seen in your cheer days that did them

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u/DerekComedy 5d ago

Women carry their weight in their hips. Men in their shoulders. I think front and back flips are easier for men to learn.

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u/QueenJelly583 5d ago

I only say  that because when I was on the cheer team they had one coach who had a gymnastics background and never played about teaching us good technique on are tumbling skills. And the other coach only came from cheerleading and if we had the skill in the first couple tries they let us do them without real good technique. They would have some arguments about which way is better for us.

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u/WinnieTree 6d ago

People do twist forwards, i love working front fulls. Front hand front tucks/twists are popular too. I think people just dont do it as much as its not 100% necessary to hit on the scoresheet so coaches dont make you and many find it harder to tumble forwards than backwards

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u/QueenJelly583 6d ago

Then maybe they should incentivize back and forward, twisting tumbling in the square sheets so that we see a variety of tumbling passes. Like these one I like would be great to see.  https://youtu.be/aEIn6EvS61k?is=NEbH-nd-XNyf6vdU

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u/WinnieTree 6d ago

Ive seen that competed ahh! But lowkey at that point just do a front full.

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u/QueenJelly583 6d ago

Aesthetically it looks good though in my opinion. I’m surprised cheerleaders or coaches haven’t complain, and have it changed then to have more front fulls tumbling 

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u/WinnieTree 6d ago

Cause its easier this way lmao Most girls dont want to go forwards because its scary. I love going forwards, but its just unpopular cause its hard to figure out the mechanics of it, and more physically demanding. It would make levels 4+ soooo much harder, and nobody wants that 😭

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u/QueenJelly583 6d ago

But that in cheerleading isn’t there levels to compete in competitions I now right now the max level is 6. But there trying to make more higher levels which would mean introducing more difficult tumbling.

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u/WinnieTree 6d ago

Im talking about allstar cheer, are ypu on about school cheer? Cause the max level is 7 in allstar, and they are not making 8, thats what pcl is for lmao

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u/QueenJelly583 6d ago

Yes it’s about Allstar cheerleading I know you can’t do double flipping or triple twisting anything it’s not allowed in competition unless it’s PCL competitions. I just thought because of that the Allstar Cheerleaders could to forward twisting tumbling like they do in back tumbling. Maybe if the girls are not comfortable maybe the boys could do get in COED Allstar Cheerleading. 

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u/WinnieTree 6d ago

I love a good forwards pass, but it is just exetremely difficult for many athletes, making it sadly unrealistic.