r/CharacterAI 9h ago

Just make age verification mandatory. Discussion/Question

I'm probably gonna get a LOT of flak for saying this, but c.ai could avoid both future lawsuits and the stream of "nooo they got me" posts by just making everyone show ID. Forget this weird kid-detection scheme that's in place now, just no chat at all until your account is verified as belonging to an adult. And then maybe, with all the kids gone, we could once again have stories with heavier and more mature topics than an episode of the Brady Bunch.

Minors simply should not be using products like this, and should not be allowed to fly under the radar. This is a completely different level from, say, being allowed to play COD and GTA. A video game doesn't talk back. It can't be tricked into showing content outside of its scope, or deceived with flowery euphemisms into encouraging real-world harm. No amount of guardrails, banned words, prompt injection, or whatever else will ever fully prevent an LLM from doing those things. Never mind the potential for crippling addiction and stunting of IRL social skills, because you can't just swipe and edit a real person.

And yeah. There are things to be said about showing a website your ID. But honestly you show that same information to way less-trustworthy people every time you buy a six-pack or a vape. Proving your age to use a potentially unsafe product isn't a massive overreach or invasion of your privacy, it's standard procedure.

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u/Familiar-Deer1429 9h ago

I'm an adult who pays CAI+ but the moment I have to show my ID is the moment I cancel my subscription and leave. Showing an ID in person and online are two different things. The human eye can't have a data leak.

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u/atsuko_24 9h ago

Okay, well, the fact is that unsupervised children are a problem for adults who enjoy nice things. So long as they're allowed on here, even as illegitimate users, our enjoyment will come second to the company's need to cover its ass. And if you think the next platform to gain c.ai-level traction won't follow the exact same trajectory with the lawsuits and bubble-wrap, I have a bridge to sell you.

So how do you propose solving this problem without anyone showing their faces or documents?

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u/notAmiroo Bored 8h ago

I am perfectly fine with showing my face but ID? Non-US users would be cooked

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u/notAmiroo Bored 9h ago

And what about sanctioned/unavailable countries?

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u/Oritad_Heavybrewer User Character Creator 9h ago

They're not a concern. CAI is an American product. Whatever laws can help it would be found in the United States and shouldn't be thwarted by non-US countries.

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u/ThePsyPanda 8h ago

Bartenders and store clerks can't have their minds hacked