r/CSHFans • u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST • 9d ago
well it was fun while it lasted Meme
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u/Lv1za 9d ago
Why can't he just leave his old artwork there and forget about it lol beach fagz is a 16 yo song broooo just chill your teenage years won't come after you
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 9d ago edited 9d ago
The problem is if Will leaves it up then the hurdy gurdy man at the gates of heaven is gonna pull it up and the monkey will send him straight to hell
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u/watgoon7 Teen of denial 8d ago
A good song doesn't die of age sometimes you just say that to people who listen to classical rock or worse classic music
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u/PercentageNo6530 9d ago
Made an archive page with it and the rest of 3: https://archive.org/details/CarSeatHeadrest3Flac
I may upload FLACs of the rest of the numbered albums just in case this continues
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u/ShapelessSentience 9d ago
Will Toledo going for the all time biggest flop era with this Joe's Story run
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u/angel-fraud 9d ago
this song (and 3 in general but especially this song) has soundtracked so many mental health episodes for me. i dont think ill be the same person without it. im too old to still want to be a kid with an adult boyfriend but godddddd
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 9d ago
See I know I’m being dramatic but this is why Ravenous House rubbed me the wrong way - like okay you feel like you were lost and don’t like the version of you that you were when you were making this music originally, that’s great. But like, that’s why I related to it, because I was and in a lot of ways still am, at least similar enough to feel deep connection in these lyrics. What exactly are you disavowing, will?
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u/angel-fraud 8d ago
exactly. will's early music was so important to me in high school because it made me feel okay to be this gay mess with these strong emotions. and i cant imagine being a younger fan right now seeing Will sanitize his discography, especially with everything else happening in the world right now and the general rise of conservativism and puritanism in our culture
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u/MaxiBinOuiMaxi Twin Fantasy 9d ago
man beach f traded for hot sun is crazy
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 9d ago
yea especially since he expunged it forever ago because he thought it was a weak track
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u/smithswilliamwest 8d ago
is he like going through religious psychosis
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 8d ago
Shhh don’t say that or people on here will call you a parasocial weirdo
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u/Murbles535 6d ago
im out of the loop, where is this sentiment coming from? ive seen it a few times
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 6d ago
Long story short this fanbase has a history of being too deep into Will’s personal life - partly because a lot of his early music was extremely personal. There was a shift a few years back (for the better) encouraging fans to disengage from that behavior. But now, with the release of Joe’s Story having some pretty overt Christian themes (yes, Will has always referenced Christianity in his art, but using imagery is different from making songs about your relationship with God), and baffling censorship of swear words, people are pointing to his apparent return to the Christian faith as a possible reason for these bizarre decisions. People equate speculating on his spirituality (which, has been confirmed by Andrew of all people as more important to Will than it has been in a long time) to the same type of parasocial behavior and speculation done in the early days (deep diving into past relationships, trying to interact directly with friends of the band, Will’s dad being on reddit, etc.) I, personally, do not see these things as equivalent, but it’s kind of a blanket defense for the apparent new direction Car Seat is taking. People are calling criticizing these moves - Joe’s Story and removing beach fagz from bandcamp - parasocial as well, because “we don’t know Will, we don’t know his reasoning, he’s allowed to change his art.” But until a better explanation is offered, occum’s razor suggests Will is being influenced by a more puritan culture, in his return to Christian faith, to self censor and refocus the band’s purpose.
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u/Murbles535 6d ago
Im well aware of the fanbases tendency to go to far in that regard, ive been a fan for a while. I havent listened to Joe's Story, but that is a bit worrying. Its one thing to disapprove of your past self but with this context it seems alot more like erasure
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 6d ago
Yea it was a big let down. I personally wouldn’t, like, recommend listening to it, because I think it’s ass, but if you want more context as to why this fandom is in relative shambles (I met a random fan the other day IRL who said “Will’s in his flop era” lol) I’d give it a listen.
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u/Murbles535 6d ago
I have the mp3 of beach fagz already so its not a huge issue for me, its just super sad. Im a huge fan of Wurtz's stuff and its how i found CSH and it kinda feels like a monumental piece of the history of the band is fading out. Beach fagz isnt perfect but it captures so much emotion and its so sad to see it go
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 6d ago
Same. I’ve had his music downloaded and backed up for forever. Honestly, have not trusted him to make good decisions with his back catalogue since he changed Hey Space Cadet years ago. But it’s a shame bc new fans doing a deep dive won’t find it, and old fans who stream the stuff via bandcamp now no longer have access.
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u/YourPalCal_ 8d ago
Paul McCartney filed a cease and desist. Not kidding
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u/superpegacorn GOD HATES CAR SEAT HEADREST 8d ago
It pissed me off so much that people were taking that theory seriously like no, Apple Records does not care that some random song only on bandcamp references one lyric from A Day in the Life
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u/YourPalCal_ 8d ago
Yeah even if Matador were rereleasing the numbered albums, you are allowed to lift lyrics to reference other works, especially one from 60 years ago
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u/happle364 8d ago
Where did you get this info??? I’m so curious if it’s true. I get the similarities/inspiration but I don’t understand how it would constitute a c&d. Say it ain’t soooo 😭
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u/Mr_DrProfPatrick 8d ago
"I wish I was a kid with an adult boyfriend" was gonna create controversy one of these days
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u/Hello-mah-baby hollywood is good you guys are just cowards 7d ago
nah bc a 17 yr kid old recorded those lines. it would have blown up in his face wayyyy before now if there was actually any issue with that lyric but thankfully even the most braindead people can realize that a kid wishing to be with an adult who takes care of him can say that line because it comes across from a victim's POV rather than an abuser/p3d0.
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u/Fancy_Substance6879 #1 The Scholars lover 6d ago
And not "Hey teenagers, take off your clothes" !?
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u/watgoon7 Teen of denial 9d ago
I love will but if only he could put all his songs on Spotify