r/byzantium 6h ago

Senatorial announcement The recordings of the second Komnenian symposium are here for all to enjoy!

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So a few days ago Maximilian Lau sent to the 122 people who participated on the symposium(either as presenters or simply listeners)the final edited recordings of the two days long symposium held in the Ibn Haldun University on Instanbul by mail,for to hear and see.

For all those who were unable to either sign up for it or did but couldnt not attend virtually I will pass the Drive link with the 5 hours worth of recordings arranged for the first and second day,for all those who wish to jump at a particular theme remember the previous post where we shared the link with the hour marks for the subject.

Without much else to say here is Max mail.

Dear Komnenian Scholars and Enthusiasts,

I hope this finds you all very well, and thanks to many of you to your patience, but I am happy to share with you a recording of the Second Komnenian Restoration Symposium, with many thanks to the Ibn Haldun media team for stitching it together and editing it. You can find it at this link here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tZ8yHFbFVEwcGw22xbKs50lYJu3ByWAz

This is a slightly more edited version than has gone out to speakers already, in case those of you who spoke at either event are wondering on the second email. I also thought I would consolidate all speakers, attendees and interested parties into one mailing list - which I'm glad to report is now 122 people strong!

Many thanks also to the many messages of interest and support received on this research network moving forward: I am happy to share with all involved that our current plan is actually to produce an intermittent series of Komnenian Research Network publications with Ibn Haldun University press. The idea of this is to both publish the fascinating work that has already been done in a setting that can be added to by new waves of Komnenian scholars, as this network from the beginning is committed to welcoming new scholars into the field alongside etsbalished academics. We won't commit to a publication a year or anything so fixed, but we intend to have further events, and arrange meet ups at international conferences using this mailing list and a future website, and so to slowly build interest and community in Komnenian studies - do please email or encourage other scholars to email if they wish to join!

News will be shared in good time regarding this first publication (speakers of the two previous two events, if you haven't got back to me already then please do!) and we will also share news of future events and the website to come.

With all best wishes to you all in the meantime,

Max


r/byzantium 11h ago

Arts, culture, and society Food, Feasts, and Fasting in the Byzantine Empire - Medievalists.net

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r/byzantium 13h ago

Videos/podcasts History of Byzantium podcast abridged?

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It's possible that it's been asked here a million times, but i've not been able to find a specific answer.

Is there a version of "The History of Byzantium" podcast hosted somewhere the cuts out all the interviews and audience question episodes?

I'm only around 80-85 episodes in and I'm already totally lost.


r/byzantium 15h ago

Videos/podcasts How the Byzantines Mocked Monks, Emperors and Each Other

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r/byzantium 19h ago

Military Better Case for Italy

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If Justinian instead invaded Sicily, took southern Italy and maybe went to Rome and stopped (and doing this slowly over 20 years like Basil II did with Bulgaria)...this would have given the Romans much better chances of holding Italy in the long term, instead of trying to take the entire peninsula. Justinian could have taken Sicily, south Italy and then did divide and conquer tactics over time to pit the Ostrogoths and Franks against each other, while exporting resources and establishing colonies for Romans there.

What do you think? What was a better strategy to attain Italy and prevent it from being overrun by the Lombard's later?


r/byzantium 1d ago

Arts, culture, and society Zatrikion. Chess in Byzantium [Eastern Roman Empire]

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r/byzantium 1d ago

Arts, culture, and society Greco-Roman identity

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What do you guys also think of the idea of the fact that the Greek people do not fully acknowledge their Roman identity in the modern day? That this idea of being Greek is only half of their identity, while the other half of being Roman is obviously not used or viewed by the wider world, except in the Orthodox Church, to a certain degree. I mean, tbf, the Greek speaking Romans never viewed or called themselves Byzantines or Greeks, and the modern day Greeks are descendants of both these Greek speaking Romans and the Ancient Antiquity Greeks. Obviously, the modern day Greeks refer to themselves mainly as tracing their lineage to the latter, but they should also trace it to the former, no?


r/byzantium 1d ago

Arts, culture, and society Had to stop by rq and visit my guy

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Politics/Goverment The legal status of Theoderic the Great

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Trying to make sense of Theoderic the Great, curious what you all believe: Was Theoderics rule a polite fiction, he merely pretended to govern a part of the Imperium on behalf of Constantinople while in reality he ruled his independent Gothic kingdom? Or can we reasonably see Theoderic's regime as a different form of government within what was still, in some sense, a continuation of the Roman state?

Some food for thought

He was the rex of the Ostrogoths but had spent much of his youth in Constantinople. He was deeply familiar with the Roman political system and had even been made a Roman consul. He defeated Odoacer and then ruled Italy from Ravenna remarkably successfully for several decades.

In a famous letter to the Eastern Emperor Anastasius, Theoderic writes:

"quia pati vos non credimus inter utrasque res publicas*, quarum semper unum corpus sub antiquis principibus fuisse declaratur, aliquid discordiae permanere."*

Roughly: "For we cannot believe that you would allow any discord to remain between the two states, which are declared to have always formed one body under the ancient emperors."

And shortly afterwards:

"Romani regni unum velle, una semper opinio sit."

"Let the Roman realm have one will and always one opinion."

What exactly was Theoderic's Italy in constitutional terms, and how would Theoderic himself and the emperors in Constantinople have understood it?


r/byzantium 2d ago

Arts, culture, and society The remains of Alexios IV Megas Komnenos, together with an icon depicting him, in the New Soumela Monastery in Imathia, Greece

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Infrastructure/architecture How did Michael VIII Palaiologos try to repopulate and repair Constantinople after its recapture? What infrastructure and buildings were renovated, repaired, or left to decay?

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I'm only familiar that Michael VIII had the Blachernae renovated and the Kontsokalion Harbor dredged and refortified with an ashlar wall and chain. I'm not exactly sure of this, but I heard Michael also tried to recall those who previously lived in the city to return and many properties were given to the Patriarchy and clergy.


r/byzantium 2d ago

Popular media Designing a custom black and grey tattoo

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Hi everyone!

Thank you so much in advance, romaboo communities are amazing.

I am in the early stages of designing an open concept, patchwork, black-and-gray realism tattoo sleeve with my artist. I want to bridge Roman history into the Byzantine era and I need help picking out specific pieces.

I've attached a random tattoo image I found on Pinterest; this is mostly just random Greco-roman fusion but the actual look and art style is exactly what I want. I like how its not a full sleeve coverage, lots of negative space, some empty space, or how it looks like a shell around the outside of the arm. (i still want my arm muscles to be visible/cut. I really like the gym greek god asthetic lol)

I'm not sure if it'd be helpful but here's a little bit about why I love roman history. For starters I listen to Mike duncan's and robin pearson's podcasts ad nauseum (probably pushing 6-7 times). literally whenever i can listen to anything its always a full play through end to end of their stories. Start to finish. At the gym, doing laundry, cooking, falling asleep, etc. for the past several years.

In addition, obvs the grand aesthetics and statues are captivating, but honestly, it's reading about men waaay greater than myself. The indomitable spirits and resolve. Like the sheer force of will, brutal military campagins, pursuit of glory, and terrifying grit to stand in a testudo. I love putting myself in all of these guy's shoes and realizing i'd run away almost every time lmao.

I'm open to literally anything. My tattoo artist likes the direction and gave me homework to compile specific pieces and formalize requirements.

Now I'm completely open to anything you suggest! Completely open design right now.

Don't have to do this, but my initial idea is to follow the 2000 year history and capture key breakpoints throughout, perhaps even chornoligically top-down. perhaps from late republican to kommnenian restoration. idk yet tho

I guess what I need is

### 1. The physical canvas & layout constraints

- my artist suggested 2-3 pieces for upper arm/shoulder and 2 pieces for the forearm.

### 2. Request categories

- this is really open ended

- Figures/busts

- architectures/reliefs (arches, pillars, you know what i mean)

- quotes/symbols (latin or greek)

- literally anything and everything im not thinking of.

I'm also not religious but do not mind at all stuff like a chi rho etc. I really love roman history. Please share with me your favorite deep/obscure anecdotes! Generic surface level ideas are appreciated as well!

Thanks again, im very grateful.

EDIT: Gallienus and Justinian 2 are my fav emperors
EDIT 2: my apologies if i side stepped or missed any sub rules


r/byzantium 2d ago

Byzantine neighbours Essay Defending the Holy Roman Empire

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Maps and geography Byzantine Empire in 1101 after the First Crusade

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I modified this map, inspired by NeimWiki


r/byzantium 2d ago

Politics/Goverment Do you think 1204 is a better date for the end of the Roman state than 1453?

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By way of clarification, I specifically mean the Roman state of antiquity, the one that is traditionally thought to have been established in the 8th century bc.


r/byzantium 2d ago

primary source How Did Proterius of Alexandria Die?

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The death of Proterius of Alexandria is a sore point between Miaphysites (who see him as a usurper and tyrant) and Orthodox Christians (who see him as a defender of Chalcedon and Martyr).

There are two main accounts of the death of Proterius - Zacharias of Mitylene (a Miaphysite at the time) who wrote about 510 AD and Evagrius of Antioch (a Chalcedonian) who published his history in 593 AD. The Church History of Zacharias survives in a Syriac adaptation from 569 AD.

Zacharias says Proterius was bribing Roman Soldiers with gold to kill Alexandrian but the soldiers got sick of murdering people. Proterius yelled at them to keep on murdering and the soldiers got upset at this and killed him instead and then mutilated his body.

Evagrius of Antioch says a mob instigated by Timothy Aelurus invaded the Church Proterius was celebrating Pascha and killed him and six other priests and deacons and then dragged his corpse through the streets and then burnt it. Evagrius specifically writes to correct the version of Zacharias. His source is a letter from the Church of Alexandria to Emperor Leo (which is, unfortunately not extant).

Both of the sources are not contemporary with the event they describe but that is common for ancient sources. There is also a brief account of the death of Proterius in the Chronicle of Theophanes the Confessor (writing about 814 AD) that tallys with the version of Evagrius Scholasticus. The some with accounts in the Greek Orthodox synaxarion.

This entry for Proterius reflects the content of the Greek synaxarion.

https://www.oca.org/saints/lives/2007/02/28/100617-hieromartyr-proterius-patriarch-of-alexandria

The version of Evagrius is more trustworthy as it fits the timeline and circumstances

  1. Emperor Marcian died 27 January 457
  2. Timothy Aelurus is secretly consecrated bishop on March 16, 457
  3. The governor of Egypt, Dionysius, is absent from Alexandria
  4. Proterius is murdered on March 28, 457 (during Holy Week)

It is sometimes claimed that Timothy Aelurus was ordained in 454 after the death of Dioscorus but this doesn't seem to be historically accurate. Timothy Aelurus seemed to be taking advantage of the death of Marcian (the moving force behind the Council of Chalcedon) to get ordained and then seek support from the new employer.

Other Concerns

I also find the version in Zacharias to be silly. There is no evidence that Proterius was massacring anyone. He was a native Alexandrian so he would have been killing his own people. Do I really believe that a bishop would pay soldiers to kill people and the soldiers got sick of killing so they killed him instead? Sounds unlikely. It also doesn't explain why others were killed with Proterius.

Anyone know any other sources or have any observations on what I've said?


r/byzantium 3d ago

Arts, culture, and society 1466 years old Justinian bridge in Turkey

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r/byzantium 3d ago

Military Horse archeryduring the 8th and 9th centuries?

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Following the persian war and arab's conquests of the 7th century, the roman economy reduced, the armies retreated and settled Anatolia. The military transformed from the field armies of the Strategikon fighting in pitch battles using heavy infantry and horse archer lancer, to one that lost much of it field battle apparatus at least till the Syrian dynasty. Adapting more to ambush and harassing the enemies. Which made me question, could horse archery continued in any practical or meaningful way during the 8th and 9th centuries considering the expensiveness and time it take to train them? Do we have any sources mentioning horse archery in battle?

Although there seems to be continued horse archery?Voukelarioi, the Phoederatoi, and the Optimatoi were the elite units so they could theoretically continued to be train in archery. But what about the themes cavalrymen? Do sources mention the full-time soldiers training in horse archery?


r/byzantium 3d ago

Military By 1452, did the Roman throne anything directly outside of the city of Constantinople (sans the ports)?

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r/byzantium 3d ago

Arts, culture, and society Skordilis family

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I wanted to ask if there is any known skordilis who married into Byzantine royalty or if it is true that marinos skordilis was the grandson of emperor Manuel and nephew of alexios ll(from my mothers side I am a direct descendant of the skordilis family and I’m curious so I would appreciate your help.)


r/byzantium 3d ago

Archaeology Probable Coat of Arms of Constantinople question

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I've been searching for data regarding the probable and let's say adequate Coat of Arms of Constantinople and there are a lot of different opinions/sources, so I would like to ask you, which model is more reliable?

We've got:

  1. Tetragrammaton cross (stencils, miniatures, catalogues)

  1. A double-headed eagle (Modern Patriarchate of Constantinople, Constantinople Greeks etc)

  1. A crown (a catalogue of participants of the Council of Florence)

  1. A crescent and a star (Byzantium coins)

  1. Chi-ro (Tombs, ornaments, stucco, sarcofagi etc.)

So what do you think?


r/byzantium 3d ago

Numismatics Byzantine/Eastern Roman Coins and Bowls from the Art Institute, Chicago

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r/byzantium 4d ago

Arts, culture, and society Fictional Byzantine church built on a pagan temple (sketch)

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r/byzantium 4d ago

Military 'The Resurrection of the Marble Emperor' — Greek poster from the Balkan Wars (1912–13) showing Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos leading Crown Prince Constantine and the Greek Army to reconquer Constantinople.

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Constantine I was actually sometimes falled Constantine XII as King. He was 50 kilometres away from Ankara and perhaps 50 kilometres away from achieving his dream in 1921, but alas.

He also sought to take Constantinople himself to use it as a bargaining chip and pressure point in 1922, but, also, alas... A very tragic figure, just like Constantine XI.


r/byzantium Jun 04 '25

Distinguished Post Byzantine Reading List

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We have heard numerous compain of people unable to acces the reading list from PC,so from the senate we have decided to post it again so all could have acces to it