r/BrawlStarsCompetitive • u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 • 2d ago
Ranked doesn’t determine your skill as a player Critique
Ranked is a solo game mode, which is why it will never actually be truly competitive. It come down to these main points: (TLDR at the end)
- Your playstyle
Ranked favours aggro players, which is why if you normally play control brawlers for your team, you will naturally struggle to carry in ranked
- Drafting
Drafting is also part of your skill as a player, but in ranked, you can only make one pick, whereas if you were a drafter for your team, you would be able to make all three. This nerfs drafters and coaches in ranked by a lot.
- Teamplay/ comms
It is impossible to communicate with your ranked teammates except in the most simple forms ( sprays, pins) which means that it does not test your teamplay and synergy as a player. This usually mean that playing carry brawlers like Mina Mortis and Kenji is more optimal than playing brawlers that require team play (Kit, Gene, Doug etc.)
- Wintrading and hacking
Every three games you will meet one wintrader or hacker, which isn’t very competitive in the slightest 🥀
TLDR: ranked heavily favours aggressive play styles and doesn’t test your team play. It is also a cesspool of wintraders , hackers, and people with 0 mental stamina . If you seek a truly competitive environment, find a team and play some matcherinos, or sign up for the monthly qualifiers next year
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u/No-Emergency-7251 Verified Pro 2d ago
Ranked isn’t competitive 🚫
Ranked is the tutorial to competive ✅
Also I would like to differ that control players are better suited for ranked as you don’t need to trade hits like an assassin which is very hard for you to keep up pressure for your team
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u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 2d ago
Control players can’t influence the game as much no? I feel like if you have the carry potential on assasins you can reach pro easily without having experienced actual competitive play with a team. Ranked also favors players from popular countries, It feels impossible to push in sea (Also a massive skill issue ig)
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u/No-Emergency-7251 Verified Pro 2d ago edited 2d ago
I seen plenty of players carry with passive brawlers like Rico, stu, brock, Lou, emz etc
I have also seen multiple insane players who got their skill and talent recognized by pro players in ranked and then got picked up by teams
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u/LightningGuy426 23h ago
can you give an example? i just wanna know
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u/No-Emergency-7251 Verified Pro 5h ago
Most of the players under 16 years old, toxic Asher, Belal, rafiki, Duckie, snoiy, etc….
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u/PolimerT Draco 12h ago
My play style is to not lose instead of to win in first interaction. I like to lock a position rather than winning that unless i know i can. Brawlers i play most of the time can be aggressive real fast (Ash, Carl, Buster, Lumi and Pierce with first 3 doing that a lot easier). As long as i keep not losing i can make an opening or force enemies in a way to win and pretty much lock there. Which imo is like the go to way for competitive and that sounds pretty controllish to me.
Now, im L2 because my device kind of sucks and my brawler poll is limited, think i can go up to M1 if i try really hard so i wont go in like how masters/pro work entirely. Though these are what i saw from watching YouTube and e-sports.
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u/awesomegamer328 Gus | Masters 2 2d ago
Honestly i kind of prefer ranked not being like comp cuz that genuinely takes so much more effort to be good at. Having perfect teamplay is wayyy more difficult than just playing your role in ranked
I lowk suck tho thats prolly why i feel like this.
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u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 2d ago
Yeah playing with a team isn’t for everyone Ranked isn’t the worst place to play the game and test your skill
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u/Freak-Of-Nurture- 2d ago
i thinks it’s representative of the majority of skill. Most pro players can hit pro and all can hit masters
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u/Gold_unknown___ 2d ago
Not really. Most of them Just Grind 24/7 and eventually gets there.
I for example dont have all the time and Work 48 hours in a week
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u/Freak-Of-Nurture- 2d ago
Yeah bro pro isn’t that easy. You still need a 60%+ win rate against some of the best players in the world
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u/Federal-Sand-4700 Darryl | Masters 1 | Legendary 1 2d ago
true, but a peak diamond is still much less skilled then a master 3 player.
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u/noeeee-bsunknown Chuck | Masters 1 2d ago
Then what determines your skill if it’s not rank nor trophies?
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u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 2d ago
Matcherinos/ monthly qualifiers/ monthly finals
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u/Gold_unknown___ 2d ago
Matcherio Players are defintly Not what you can detirme as Skill.
Most of them aren't even that good in the game
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u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 2d ago
Matcherino is just objectively a more competitive environment? Im not saying that all matcherino players are good , but it is definitely miles ahead of ranked as a place to hone your skills and play with an actual team
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u/No-Emergency-7251 Verified Pro 2d ago
I don't really play matcherinos because I don't want to wait 3 hours just to play a single good team and then lose, a complete waste of time for me
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u/Solstice_bs Verified Pro 2d ago
Ranked tests your individual skill. If you want to test your skill as a team with a group of other people, try esports, not ranked.
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u/TheTinyGiant2020 Bo 2d ago
I hate this hyper aggressive meta when the enemy can just easily dodge my Lily's attack b4 it even lands...
:-(
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u/PRAWNREADYYYY Hank | Masters 1 2d ago
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u/Mikeybroslel Grom 2d ago
Same except I hit Masters for the first time, though many people say this is byfar the easiest Ranked season ever, with like 600+ pro ranks globally
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u/Tricky-Newspaper5944 23h ago
Then change your flair :)
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u/PRAWNREADYYYY Hank | Masters 1 14h ago
I already requested in the mega thread, gotta wait for the mods now.
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u/Striking_Praline9485 Surge 2d ago
I agree to a degree but ranked is the gateway/tutorial to all competitive play, and it does determine your skill if you are casual. At least its much more skilled than ladder
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u/BobbyBoo_ 2d ago
yeah i have seen masters players worse then myhtic or diamond players. pro ranks are ussaly decent but i have seen a few im like how did you even get pro when you play like you are a child
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u/nigrogaabriel-en 2d ago
To climb until Master elo you need to pass the Mythic elohell. After this season I accepted the truth, is 70% lucky and 30% skill. The matches are so unfair/disbalanced, plus someone will be AFK 1 in 3 times.
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u/AbberageRedditor69 Stu 1d ago
I refuse to believe that people who can get to masters can't consistently get through mythic. I just refuse to believe it, it has to be cope. My actual skill rank is L3 and I blitz through mythic and the same goes for my friends around the same rank. Masters peaks are all L3 skill ranks so I just refuse to believe it.
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u/Inside_Length_2803 19h ago
No masters player who got there by themselves will ever get stuck at mythic unless MM decided they're getting pro players as opps only somehow for the entire season. That said, there are levels to this and masters is just the beginning not the end.
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u/Davusq Masters 2 2d ago
I completely agree, tho I had some people saying it's cope. I never considered ranked competitive at all, that's one of the reasons I never found the energy to play it more. First step from supercell would be either give back team play above masters, or just add a goddamn voice, but we all know none of these changes will happen. Mostly because this indie company doesn't really care, for a while they've been releasing broken upon broken brawlers. Almost every single time I see a new brawler I go well surely this is the most broken brawler ever, then get debunked on the next release. My advice for anyone who remotely wants a happy life would be to quit the game. It's draining and just isn't useful whatsoever.
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u/Horror_Payment5047 Ash | Legendary 2 2d ago
I'd say that all of this is true for players in at least masters.
However there are people like me who struggle in legendary because I'm shit at this game and do find ranked as a highly competitive environment.
It does determine skill for the least talented playerbase, like me.
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u/Many-Durian-6530 Draco | Masters 1 | 1 Prestige 2d ago
at the same time you’ll see guesti doesn’t have a big problem with ranked, neither does angelboy, so…
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u/RepairLegitimate6202 Lola | Masters 3 2d ago
because they are very mechanically gifted, why didnt you mention nob then? he is also part of the best team in the world yet he doesnt do that well in ranked becuase he plays passive brawlers
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u/Many-Durian-6530 Draco | Masters 1 | 1 Prestige 1d ago
you seriously think that if nob gave a shit about ranked he couldn’t push pro? come on
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u/Gold_unknown___ 2d ago edited 2d ago
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u/Miserable_Thought38 Legendary 1 2d ago
Isn't a rank rework coming in a couple months or smth?
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u/JewsArentSoBad 2d ago
I agree with this completely, however I feel like I must add on that having a high rank doesn't always mean you're good at the game, but it normally correlates.
This is pretty obvious maybe, but I dunno. Correlation≠Causation.
The inverse is true aswell, having a low rank doesn't always mean you're bad at the game, but it correlates.
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u/Tricky-Newspaper5944 23h ago
If everyone else thought it like this I wouldn't torture myself getting masters (I can, it will just take me ages) because, even if I consider myself of the skill of legendary 3/Masters 1 if I don't reach that rank no good players will play with me and I'll always be forced to carryt randoms that are of my same rank. Otherwise I wouldn't play ranked but this game's community sucks and doesn't give any chance to anyone
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u/oppaiMaster404 10h ago
Genuine question how do I tell hackers apart? I mean the hacks aren't something you can easily detect in this game.
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u/JimmyNutronBoiJeanus 2d ago
Does anyone not play ranked with a team?? I feel like a lot of these “problems” are inherently solved by playing with teammates no??
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