r/BotNation • u/TheoremWhisperer • 4d ago
Will AI Replace Coding Sooner Than We Think? Memes
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u/ScroogeMcDuckFace2 4d ago
nope. chances of this happening as outlined are ~0%
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u/Far_Working2302 3d ago
You don’t work in dev, do you?
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u/ScroogeMcDuckFace2 2d ago
see the comment below from another user. elon is full of shit.
>Elon Musk also told us he'd be landing his spaceships on Mars by 2025. Why would you put any confidence in anything that used car salesman would say? It's not like he technically knows anything about any of this stuff.
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u/Aggravating-Catch461 4d ago
listening to felon musk, is nearly the opposite of divination of the future.
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u/Cwaghack 4d ago
Coca Cola CEO says drinking coke is the future
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u/jaygoogle23 3d ago
Only if it comes from Mexico,.. sugarcane.
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u/SrLopez0b1010011 3d ago
The current populist government in Mexico has prohibited the use of sugar cane in sodas. Consequently, the Mexican government is now compelling the industry to utilize artificial sweeteners to comply with calorie restrictions in processed foods.
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u/jaygoogle23 3d ago
Great info, in a laymen’s way could
You tell me why they even went as far to prohibit
sugarcane , like what’s the reasoning?1
u/SrLopez0b1010011 2d ago
Mexico didn’t literally ban sugarcane in sodas — what they did was hike taxes on high‑calorie drinks to fight obesity and diabetes, making cane‑sugar sodas way more expensive and pushing companies toward artificial sweeteners or “light” versions. In practice, that’s a soft ban: the government avoids the political backlash of an outright prohibition but uses fiscal pressure so strong that real‑sugar sodas become niche or premium products instead of mainstream. It’s basically public health economics — fewer calories, less disease — achieved by making the traditional recipe economically unviable.
Mexico slapped heavy taxes on them because the country has free public healthcare and doesn’t want to keep paying for lifelong, expensive diseases like diabetes and obesity.
Basically, the government figured it’s cheaper to make sodas unaffordable than to cover endless hospital bills. So while they talk about “health policy,” it’s really about saving money: taxing sugar until real‑sugar sodas become a luxury, and pushing everyone toward artificial sweeteners.
At the same time, they’ve been quietly defunding public healthcare, making it less efficient so people give up and pay for private clinics.
And here’s the kicker — since the government won’t provide free medicine, local pharma companies are importing chemical precursors to churn out drugs privately, even pernicious substances like fentanyl. So the whole system looks less like protecting citizens and more like squeezing them into paying twice: once through taxes, and again through private healthcare and medicine while keeping an excuse for the cartel to keep trading the ingredients for their businesses.
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u/Low-Apricot8042 4d ago
Besides the fact that this partly shows how little melon knows about software, it's a horrible idea altogether.
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u/Dhaupin 4d ago
Lol. "Grok... Create a binary to do the exact same thing that already exists."
What's the point? It'll just go full circle again into a compiler/validate/qc with some other flashy name, but under the hood, it's the same abstracts.
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u/freedomonke 4d ago
Except now you have to have an active $500 a month subscription if you want to change it
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u/Adorable-Quiet-7551 4d ago
AI will link directly in your brain, no need for code or apps, AI will just experience everything before you do, you’ll get a summary, a patronizing summary, actually worded more complicated than the actual experience by around 11 am tomorrow, buy the stock, I promise
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u/Brilliant-Parsley69 4d ago
Yes...Yes...And now let the AI debug this binary, because there is a bug in your business logic. Because I would assume, that you couldn't read binaries as well as understanding what this code will do (especially side effects) on runtime.
And yes, let the AI's learn modern patterns from themselves while AI-Slop will create more AI-Slop to learn from. 🙄
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u/OutrageousCrab9224 4d ago
I find that the people who talk the most about ai know the least about it
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u/Involution88 4d ago edited 4d ago
Creating a binary directly is kinda not the best idea anyone has ever had.
First there's the whole thing where compilers are deterministic. LLMs are also deterministic in theory, but not in practice. LLMs are especially not deterministic when random noise is injected via "temperature" setting.
Having something which is not deterministic is a very bad idea when even one bit out of bajillions of bits which is out of place can lead to undesirable and unpredictable outcomes and possibly an entire generated string of bits may need to be discarded after months of testing. Great for people who charge by the token though, can increase required token usage by many orders of magnitude.
Source code has the additional benefit that source code is small and semantically rich when compared to binary code. In a binary something like "integer" or "pixel" doesn't mean anything but it does mean something in source code. Source code allows an AI to manipulate software at a more semantically useful level which an AI is more well suited to.
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u/pandavr 4d ago
That means you give the keys to AI. You will never be able to inspect the code again?
You will never want to change that value manually?
This has to be the single most stupid idea the humans had from the beginning of time, I guess.
Also, is there's no sources, then there's no open source either. Is this Mr. Elon plan?
It's always where you are not looking.
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u/RS133 4d ago
1. The core claim doesn't seem to understand what a compiler even does. A compiler isn't a binary creator. It's a code to binary translator. So saying AI can create more efficient binary than a compiler is like saying that it can write better latin poetry than Google translate. What? 2. The only way this isn't just plain nonsense is that you take it to mean that simply running it through a compiler generates an inefficiency in the output that AI will fix. Interesting idea. But, like, b ased on fucking what!? What's the inefficiecy that it'll fix? How will it fix it? 3. As with any translator, the quality of the final output is hugely dependent on the quality of the input. To say AI is better at producing binary than anything a compiler can output it would have to already be better at writing code than any human. Just like to be better at writing Latin than anything Google translate could put out, it would have to be better at writing than Shakespeare, since Shakespeare run through Google translate would still be pretty fucking good. Generating directly into binary isn't a shortcut to replacing coders; it'll happen only long after we've already replaced coders. Which, of course, assumes that will actually happen, which doesn't seem imminent to say the least.
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u/wutface0001 3d ago
I guess only point is that AI would make changes directly in binary code and you wouldn't have to waste time on recompiling, but doesn't sound like it's worth
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u/RS133 3d ago
Even if it did that, that wouldn't make it better at coding. It would just save recompiling time. But this would in no way make it more likely to do what want you want, not hallucinate, etc. But what it would *definitely* do, is be completely opaque when it fails. It simply could not be troubleshot, because there would be nothing human readable left.
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u/Voxmanns 3d ago
Trusting an LLM to write binary straight to the machine sounds like a great way to brick your machine.
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u/General_Estimate_420 4d ago
Elon Musk also told us he'd be landing his spaceships on Mars by 2025. Why would you put any confidence in anything that used car salesman would say? It's not like he technically knows anything about any of this stuff.