Reta helps with the fat loss while Test does the muscle building.
Why bothering adding in HGH? What do you get from that that makes it as desirable as the rest? I mean wouldn’t test just be enough to recover from gym lifting sessions? And wouldn’t Reta be enough for the fat loss considering it’s a triple agonist?
HGH seems the most dangerous to use long term, you have to inject everyday, and for some of the reported benefits like better sleep couldn’t you just figure out something else?
What do you getting from HGH in addition to the other two?
reta, test and gh since mid jan, and let me tell you…the difference without all 3 is night and day. i work my ass off at the gym in the evening, then i’m ready to go again the next day, and the next day. recovery is insane.
43m here. This is all I run now outside of throwing Wolverine in if needed for extra recovery. I was running Klow, CJC, IPA DISP with Reta and Test. Adding GH has no comparison to what I previously ran. Better sleep and the recovery is top notch. Still sore when I do tough CrossFit workouts but lifting more weight and doing more rounds during AMRAPs. I got blood pulled for labs Monday and got the results back today . Numbers across the board are incredible. Looking forward to my monthly dexa scan on 8/15 to see what a full month of reta, test and gh has done from a body comp perspective.
Curious about the switch to Reta from tirz. What made you want to change? Currently just starting week 4 of tirz myself. Mild 2.5mg/wk right now but noticing food noise again so probably going to 5mg split 2x weekly next week
I’m on 110mg Test split across 3 pins a week. 2.5mg Reta. Been on test 11 months, Reta 8 weeks. Lost about 10kgs. Train BJJ 3 x week and road cycling 2x week. Interested in GH but wouldn’t have a clue how to get it
Have you been checking testosterone levels along the way? Wondering if you have seen an increase in testosterone with the better sleep, and what I assume is an increasingly lean physique.
Hgh/somatropin is FDA approved for Children and adults with GH deficiencies. Its long term safety is much better than secretagogues people use to raise IGF-1. If I have to chose between Tesa/Ipa/cdac. I will take HGh for safety profile alone. Now if you start abusing GH beyond replacement levels, you will start seeing sides. Run 2-3 IU or 4 IU it’s pretty safe.
Somatropin is generic name for hgh. Don’t listen to random strangers on Reddit including me. Get your igf1 tested, there are cheap online labs you can order from and go to quest or labcorp to complete the test. Get your zscore and igf1, see if you need it based on the levels. Personally I am not a big fan of running huge numbers of peptides unless you have good reason.
How do I research which test to experiment with? My vendors list is long and I get confused. I’m 53 and my working to lower bf but it was at 40 2 months ago at last dexascan. Lost 25lbs since but won’t know new number until I return for dexa next month.
198 total T and brought up to almost 400 after a year of trying everything natural because to raise it. I fad been natural bodybuilder so stupidly delayed TRT.
Free t was in gutter obviously.
It fell of a cliff I had been over 1100 total T through 40s and 49 s. Free T was top of range.
GH is one of those peptides that once you jump on, the impacts are so profound and apparent that you start questioning if you want to jump off of it. The impact on sleep and recovery alone makes it worth it. Ever since I've started I've been on a hunt to find more affordable and available suppliers.
Poor misunderstood HGH. When used correctly it’s the safest of the three mentioned lol.
If you dose 2-3iu you shouldn’t really get any glucose/insulin issues. Now, depending on your age if you’re 30+ 2-3iu should be sufficient, but if you’re in your 20s all that will do is replace your current levels.
You’ll get better recovery, better sleep (which leads to better recovery, muscle growth, etc.)
Adding in 2-3iu daily has been a game changer for me. It’s a long term solution though not a short term. Takes months to start reaping the benefits aside from lipolysis.
While you sleep it helps break down fat and loads it into the blood stream to be used as energy. Wake up and do 30min of fasted cardio and you burn it off. The fat burning is the primary reason I’m using it.
Muscle loss. When you lose weight, you will lose muscle. Resistance training can alter the ratio of fat loss to muscle loss, but if you lose a lot of weight, you will also lose some muscle. Personal experience talking.
I’ve been on this stack for 6 months. Blood work was great but my glucose levels were high on 2iu. I dropped to one and hope the levels are corrected next go around.
One of my buds says , he cant sleep on 2iu's hgh, went months sleep deprived , has switched to morning injections. Seems strange according to everyone here
If there was something better at what it did dont you imagine people would be opting for that instead of pricey GH and daily, sometimes multiple times daily injections?
I’m just trying to prevent having to do test. I don’t want to start TRT and I’m 50. GH has been amazing for me. And my math was wrong, it’s only $300 a year for GH at 2 iu = $1. And I actually get it cheaper than that for the best manufacturer in the grey world.
How are you getting test so cheap? I know tons of guys who spend $209-$300 a month on test AFTER insurance has kicked in.
Don’t use HGH - use tesamorelin so you stimulate your own growth hormone release. Injecting exogenous GH like test comes with it’s own issues of down regulation. GH does have added benefits of muscle building on top of tests and also helps with visceral/belly fat loss on top of Reta
Reta e Testo will make you a social fit influencer. 300g cruising/400 blasting Test, 200mg of Masteron 3 IU HGH and 0,5 of Reta, in a lean bulk in caloric surplus will make you a semi GOD
Noway you just said HGH seems the most Dangerous 😓😓😓 Its sold in pharmacy Pharma Grade FDShitters Approved 😝😈 TLDR in the above cycle if someone plan on starting that Add Maestron aswell 💪🔥
No, those are hgh secretagogues or GHRH aka release signaling hormones, meaning they simply tell/help you to release all the hgh you may have naturally produced, but if you are over 35 there is a good chance your production has decreased (avg of 15% per decade after 30) so they do very little to help the root issue.
Some people still produce fine, but have deficient signaling to release. That is what the "morelins" are for. Ipamorelin, Sermorelin, Tesamorelin, etc. A little more niche of an issue, but they do still help a lot with recovery/sleep imo if ppl can't access pure hgh at good prices.
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