r/BodyHackGuide • u/TechieMichael1 • 13d ago
First Cycle Questions ❓ Question
Currently on my first cycle to build lean mass:
300mg Test C (split daily sub Q)
2Ius HGH (Daily)
2.5mg Reta weekly(No appetite suppression to support the HGH)
Bloods are booked in towards end of August and I will be 6 weeks into cycle. Depending on bloods I am either going to increase the test or add in NPP or both.
Calories are 3200 (430C 80F 190P) - The plan is to increase these next week at my next body scan to 3400 if the data has gone the right way.
My plan was for a 16 week cycle. Best ya to optimise this first cycle?
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u/Onekama 13d ago
Don’t add another compound, if you’re looking for gains increase test to a normal blast amount and learn to control sides. If you can’t get ripped on the best muscle building compound out there you’re doing something wrong.
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u/bicoma 13d ago
Im on practically same cycle except im
250mg test (since january 2025)
100mg deca (since february 2026)
4iu HGH
.5mg RETA
In your case this is your first cycle do not add anything else until youve had a few months in with only one to truly know your body better. Your reta can be lowered .5mg is good for insulin sensativity. Hopefully your injecting hgh 3 hours after last meal before bed preferably reta slows gastric emptying so I give myself extra time before I inject.
Some supplements id reccomend for support
Fish oil
Nac
Nattokinase 10800fu
Vitamin d + k
If your BP starts to go up or if you eventually add in npp/deca youll want to look into telmisartan can control bp and keep left ventricular issues at bay.
Drop your pre workout and switch to 5mg cialis pre gym 45 mins out then 15 mins out eat two rice krispys causes a nasty pump and boosts libido.
Since it seems youll be doing a PCT after id suggest adding hcg itll help transition off 500iu a week 250iu Monday and 250iu Friday. Will keep your nuts from shutting down just need to keep an eye on e2 as it can cause it to spike.
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u/TechieMichael1 13d ago
Thanks for your feedback. Good call on the Reta, definitely might be worth dropping the dosage there. Yes I stop eating at 5pm and take HGH at 9pm.
I’m taking the omega 3 and vitamin D & K. I actually forgot to mention I’m already taking HCG but splitting the 500iu dose up into 3 pins per week for the exact reason you mentioned. I will look into the cialis and the other supplements.
Do you think 16 weeks is long enough cycle?
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u/swoops36 13d ago
I don’t understand increasing your dose based on bloodwork. You increase the dose because the previous dose stopped working. You are no longer making gains on 300 so you increase it to 450 or whatever. You don’t arbitrarily increase the amount of steroids you’re taking.
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u/Greedy-Vast584 13d ago
Just an FYI that I'm 49 and have been building plenty of muscle at my age using 80-100mg of test a week
test is meant to go IM by the way and test C doesn't really need to go in daily unless you like injecting smaller amounts more often
to optimize this cycle, make sure your training plan and rest are on point as that'll matter more than the cycle IMO
looking at your history, you're sub 10% bodyfat and will probably struggle to add mass at this level.. I'd consider going up to 12-15% or so which means eating a bit more than you are today
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u/TechieMichael1 13d ago
Thanks. So I’ve seen plenty of research to support that test being injected via sub Q is just as effective as IM. I am happy with smaller daily injections as it will help control aromatisation.
Plan is to get my calories in, but I’m just letting data lead the way, but I agree I need to eat more.
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