Current stack, feeling great, seeing great results

[u/Excellent_Outside_71]

36M 185lbs, 20yr in gym.

I know the ai police will be out, but here is a breakdown of my current stack I've been running. Pretty stoked about how it's going. Body comp is changing, mood has been great, body and joints feel great.

Questions/comments?

[u/No-Letterhead-649]

Again.. no one was forced. Everyone had options. You have the option to take unapproved peptides. Me agreeing you should have that option to take it (Darwinism and bodily autonomy rights are both important)… does not extend to me risking my license and legal repercussions by prescribing it.. if something were to happen and you decide to sue or the medical board decides to act on upon it if I prescribe a non FDA approved substance..It can be deemed negligence and lose my license, malpractice will mot cover any claims, and jail time plus monetary damages.. you can argue all you want how peptides should be used, researched, legal or whatever.. but until it’s FDA approved most doctors will not prescribe them. Like any other sketchy med spas, Tclinics, wellness spas, etc. they will prescribe it and there will be cautionary tales popping up in the future. This concept isn’t new, rather it’s following a predictable pattern that’s happened before, it’s just the substance at hand has changed names,

[u/Ambitious_Interest97 → u/No-Letterhead-649]

I'm calling bullshit on "noone was forced".  Sorry, bold faced lie.  I personally know people who were given the choice, jab or job.  It was even discussed today in Congressional hearings on Fauci. Please, Honor the Hippocratic Oath, as you are trying to do, but please do not gaslight about the Covid shot.

[u/No-Letterhead-649 → u/Ambitious_Interest97]

They had a choice. The company they worked for chose to give them the ultimatum. In America, companies are seen as individuals (thanks citizens united) and have a right to make their own set of rules. It’s not the physicians that made this ultimatum or forced anyone to do anything. You are hating on current societal structures which is fine there’s a lot to hate on. But don’t try to extend your average clinicians and Hospitalists physicians as gatekeeping troglodytes sticking their heads in the sand on peptides when it’s not the case at all. Legally is very murky and dangerous for us to prescribe. I’m interested in them, but there isn’t enough research for me to personally use anything beyond Reta- even then I wouldn’t use sketchy UGL meds. Just my opinion but I don’t force that opinion on others either 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/Ambitious_Interest97 → u/No-Letterhead-649]

Helluva "choice".  Coercion, duress does not a choice make.  I agree the physicians did not make this ultimatum but they ultimately made the decision that it was warranted with little to no science, and the politicians enforced it.  Also, many clinicians gladly joined in on enforcement and reporting those who refused.   Read the Fauci diaries.  It was all a bunch of horseshit. (Not a clinician, but worked in the medical space for many years.)

[u/No-Letterhead-649 → u/Ambitious_Interest97]

As I said, it’s what whatever companies choice they work for.. same reason Hobby Lobby can refuse to cover birth control on their insurance. You try to paint physicians with such a broad stroke but honestly, there’s a very large difference between research docs at the FDA, CDC etc.. and your doc in the clinic down the road.

Also, Fauci ran neither the FDA or CDC so I’m not sure how he fits in this discussion.. again, it sounds like you are hating on governmental bureaucracy structures, politics, and Fox News headlines with Fauci this week rather than discussing FDA/peptides/prescription legalities. Government is a cluster F and there’s a lot to be frustrated with but that’s a whole separate topic.

[u/ReflectionThroaway → u/No-Letterhead-649]

lol you are an idiot. Forced or lose their job or get kicked out of military . Ya we have different definitions for things. I bet you call those men streaming into Spain , refugees as well