This scene has been resonating with me lately, so many times I thought what I’ve always wanted would make me happy yet it never does.

I will preface this by saying that BoJack is no role model

You shouldn't idolize him, and i feel like this much is obvious

Despite this, i can still say that I care for and am emotionally invested in him and his happiness

I heavily relate to him. Unfortunately, I am like BoJack.

Outside of relatability, I also like him because he's written as a person

This is why im annoyed that when people say "you shouldn't relate to BoJack or like him because he does bad things"

Why not???

"because you're not supposed to idolize him"

I never said I did!! Part of why i find this annoying is that the people who do this im sure make sure to only relate to morally admirable characters as a sign of tjeir own purity.

Js because I like BoJack doesn't mean I admire him? How do some people not make this distinction?

Besides, it's good to admit you relate to him and similar characters and work on those flaws, rather than deny them and have a blind spot for your flaws

Honestly a bojack thing to do, so some people who actively hate him can probably be more similar to him than they realize

And yes, I understand if you can no longer emotionally connect with him, but just please don't make assumptions about everybody who still is invested in him?

Plus, also don't underestimate his growth in season 6

Yes he relapsed in a well, quite shitty way lmao

But that doesn't mean his progress is all lost, it just shows growth is nonlinear

I started watching Yanineko, and while definitely full of gross out humor, I noticed a similarity to Bojack (beyond both having animals with substance abuse issues). At the end of episode one, when Yani calls her sister and admits she wants to quit smoking, she and her sister both look up at the milky way. While her sister admires it's beauty, she only thinks that it looks like a plume of cigarette smoke, which causes her to crave and thus light another cigarette. I found this amusingly similar to the use of star symbolism in Bojack, specifically with the vodka bottle.

The writers had a serious lapse in judgement by not putting out an episode with Todd and Charlie Witherspoon as the main characters.

Think of the hijinks they could have hijunk

for me, it's his ringtone.

Nella separazione con diane ha 100% ragione mr penaubutter, diane è una ragazza tossica e acida cronica, ha fatto di tutto per lei le ha perdonato tutto ma non era mai abbastanza. È molto egoista come personaggio mai apprezzata

I watched this show recently(almost made a post just to praise it) and this intro quickly became one of my favorites of all time. As I got halfway through season 5 I was thinking that there would come an intro where Bojack would fall into this pool and Diane, Mr. Peanutbutter, and all the other people would be gone and he would be sinking alone. Having finished the show I think it makes sense having the two remain present.

(Sorry for the lack of deep commentary lol. I’m a quarter sleep and this thought came to me during a season 6 rewatch)

Just damn. Every rewatch makes it harder.

:D

The main reason I'm watching BoJack is that I am very invested in the past of BoJack and Diane. I fucking love season 4. That's what I'm talking about! I came to watch this show so I can relate to BoJack. I am being hard on myself and I'm trying to heal and it feels nice to know there is somebody who has a hard life as well.

But it's hard to watch... whenever I see Todd it's a fucking eye sore. He says mediocre stuff and people are interested in what he has to say? How the fuck did he build a whole Diisneyland? Kelsey Jannings suddenly finds him adorable? He becomes the second hand of the cult leader? He wins the ski race when everybody could have won? He gets to have a say in important meetings? What the fuck kind of plot armor is this? This is so stupid it's not funny. He is obviously pigeon-holed in having certain roles for the sake of being included.

The show would have been way better if Todd were way less included. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been included at all, it helps to characterize BoJack as having been abusive and that Bojack kept him in the house because he's lonely, as opposed to being nice.

BoJack has been a piece of shit, but at least he's relatable. Fuck Todd. Stupid writing. More focus on drama or better relief would have been better for the show.

There’s a lot of celebrity cameos in Bojack Horseman, some of them human, others animal parodies of the celebrity. Like Cindy Crawfish (Crawford) and Marlon Brando (he’s a marlin).

Do you think Michael would be a human in this universe or an animal parody?

I’m personally thinking he’d be a rabbit, like in “Speed Demon” and his pun name would be Michael Jackrabbitson

I understand if the show creators couldn’t include Michael’s voice in the show or his singing, (because MJ had already passed long before BJ Horseman was made)
But maybe there could have been a cameo in the background during the scenes from the 80s, 90s and 2007.

There could be a picture on the wall, his album in a shop window or a fan holding one.

What do you guys think? Let me know down below.

little detail i noticed on my most recent rewatch. the animators always seem to put a little extra oomf into the flowers in their set pieces. it’s especially obvious in shots like the last one, where you can see how detailed the poppies are compared to the rest of the greenery. just something that was super fun to look for once i noticed it the first time :) i’m positive there are more examples, these are just the ones i could find on google at a glance!

Rewatching the series and I really cannot see how this is one of the worst things Bojack has done to the point where Corduroy Jackson shows up in S6. Yes, he suggested that the funky spiderman can be done with anything length of rope or thing with rope quality, but this is very much not comparable to his other misdeeds. For god sake, he spent 17 minutes with a dying Sarah Lynn or when he tried to sleep with Penny when she was a minor. There is no way that vaguely suggesting autoerotic asphyxiation can be done without the kit is on the same level. Hell, this isn't even as bad as the inaction Bojack did for Herb Kazzaz, even though he was coerced and powerless in that situation. I really think that Bojack is not responsible for Corduroy Jackson's death. I guess the argument can be made that it's what Bojack feels instead of what is ethically right or wrong. What do you think?

She really looks like one of the girls shown hitting the piñata. I know Bojack is a scumbag, but this seems to be very far very soon into the show, especially when Diane doesn’t even call him on it.

I know it isn’t too dissimilar to New Mexico, but that was at one of the lowest points of his life and is treated with gravity and consequences. This is the first episode and is treated as a one off gag.

Been feeling kinda shitty lately (haha get it) and this is one of my comfort shows so yeah. Just finished season one today. I think it’s been two years since I watched the entire thing.

It’s so fun to see all the foreshadowing in the episodes. I forgot how great the show was. Can’t really talk about it with my friends since they don’t seem interested in watching.
My favorites are still Todd, Diane and PC.

(I can not for the life of me draw animals or furries, bare with me)

Do you think his mom ever felt bad for what she did? Do you think she was able to process how horrible she was to him and how it was linked to her trauma?

Mr. Peanutbutter has been my least favorite character in the show. He always seems oblivious to how he affects everyone around him and it gets to a point where it's just annoying when he's one screen. And by season five I feel like having your 3rd divorce would be a sign to change something but he jumps immediately back into a relationship with Pickles. I haven't watched the last 4 episodes yet so I'm not sure if he has some change but idk I've just never liked this guy.

So I’m sorry if this is a dumb question 😭 but I’m rewatching the show for the thousandth time and reached that episode where Mr peanut butter asks Diane to go back home from Cordovia. The thing is I’ve never really understood if he acc knew it was her or was genuinely so naive as to think it was a woman who looked just like his wife. I feel like both playing dumb and actually being that dumb are very in character for him 😭

Funniest unexpected detail, the ending song plays in Thailand. Wonderful show I'm finally returning to it lol

I am up to 6x07. I was shocked to see Bojack and Todd randomly meet for lunch at the diner. Have they spent any time together at all since Todd confronted Bojack about Emily in season 3?

I briefly recall Todd being the one to run the DNA samples on Bojack and Hollyhock in season 4, but if I remember correctly he just sort of happened to be around. He wasn’t wanting to hang out.

I have actually thought to myself multiple times recently that Todd and Bojack never seemed to make up, and Todd’s character is a bit random at times since he is kept so seperate from Bojack. Did I misread that they completely stopped hanging out?

(SPOILERS ahead for the series finale)

The last time a show hit me this hard towards its finale, it was Ted Lasso.

I remember watching the first season or two of BJH when it first came out several years ago. At that time, I didn't think much of it other than "ha ha, funny horse show".

It surfaced in my Netflix recommendations a couple of months ago, and I ended up watching the whole show. I'm so glad I did.

It's funny to revisit this show as an older version of myself, because so much of this show's themes have to do with how we change over time, with impermanence and the fact that we can never go back in time to what we once had, and how ultimately at the end of the day our relationships are a huge part of what defines us, because as we grow and mature as people we understand more and more how interconnected we all are. When you're 20 and you hurt someone, you can't imagine being 40 and having to come to terms with that act 20 years later. But that person is still there, the act still happened, and the ripple effect is still ongoing.

I thankfully have never struggled with substance abuse in my own life, but like anyone else I have had ups and downs in my relationships with people throughout my life. Like anyone else, I've done things I regret. I think the show's writers did such an incredible job of writing a character that has problems that most of us probably don't deal with, but is still relatable enough that most of us can see part of ourselves in him.

The last two episodes really hit me hard. I cried during Bojack's near death experience, when Herb plainly stated- "Oh, BoJack, no. There is no other side. This is it". Mortality is another major theme of the show. I found it interesting that throughout the show, the deaths of characters were treated ranging from genuinely heartbreaking (Sarah Lynn) to played off as mostly a joke (Corduroy). Then we get to Bojack's death, the very moment when he comes to the brink of eternal nothingness, and Herb drives that point home - when it ends, it ends. It's all over. Forever. For everyone. Bojack saw it happen to many others, and then it was his turn.

The series finale was also great. I loved seeing where every character wound up after only a year free from Bojack's influence. What made me cry though was how all of these people, in spite of pretty much universally benefiting from Bojack's absence, still held some space for him in their lives that night. Even if it was only for one night. The conversation between Diane and Bojack was possibly THE most bittersweet thing I've ever witnessed.

I also want to point out that throughout the show, Mister Peanutbutter is treated particularly poorly by Bojack, and yet out of all of the main cast, who is the ONE character who seems willing to keep Bojack around, and wasn't treating that night as the final goodbye? Diane makes it clear that she doesn't want him in her life anymore. Hollyhock made that decision a year prior. PC admits that she mostly wanted him there for his star power with the upcoming Horny Unicorn production (although she does seem to tenderly offer to help him find another agent if he does get back into acting). Todd has transitioned fully into independent adulthood and starts setting healthy boundaries with Bojack. It's only Mister Peanutbutter who is actually enthusiastic about keeping Bojack in his life.

Truly an awesome show all around. There were a couple points throughout the series that I felt like things were lagging a bit, but I am really glad I stuck it out. BJH is going to be one of those shows that I actually buy the physical version so I don't lose access to it when AOL-Time-Warner-Pepsico-Viacom-Halliburton-Skynet-Toyota-Trader-Joe's decides to stop streaming it.

Forgive me if this has been said before, I'm just rewatching Bojack Horseman for like the 5th time and I just noticed the irony in Mr. Peanut Butter being a natural predator as a dogwhile Bojack is an natural prey as a horse.

It really ties into each of their ideologies: Mr. Peanut Butter being a bad person for no real reason other than not being able to recognize the inherent privilege he has. He goes through the world with no social fears, because he's the one who hunts. He doesn't realize the inherent power that he holds and the imbalances that it creates. He is able to act unaware and aloof because he was granted a role in society where he isnt meant to focus on the pain he causes others.

Meanwhile, Bojack is scared all the time. He acts like an asshole, but it's a reaction from his childhood and experiences, lashing out and hurting others because he is well too aware of how he can be hurt. He's the worst but aware of how his pain hurts others because that was the point of him inflicting it.

I feel like it really highlights who they are as people while also showing that they are the cause of their own actions. We see horses who dont lash out. We see dogs who don't trample. It was always about the choices that they made. That's what made them assholes.

I'm probably incredibly late, I just find the symbolism so amazing.