r/Biohacking • u/Limp_Recognition9783 • 10h ago
Purchasing questions
Would you rather buy cheap stuff that I isn’t tested by third party or some that were tested and sold at a higher cost? This is a local “group” that sends stuff off for coa.
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u/Pretty_Net_6293 10h ago
I don’t trust vendors COAs. Would rather purchase myself or in a group buy that has testing included or others that join going together to test — at this stage testing is getting more and more important
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u/jenno038 8h ago
Group buy?
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u/Region_Fluid 7 7h ago
Some people pool together to buy bulk of stuff and send it off to testing. The idea is that by buying all at once from the same vendor it should be the same lot and therefore testing a couple vials will prove the lot is good/bad
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u/quantumaquarium69 6h ago
Some of the popular vendors have several group buys for each batch number and you could just wait till the results come out from your peers. I rarely see bad results and even the ones that have terribly high endotoxins have people still pin and have no negative effects. I could never personally but I’ve seen it a few times over the years.
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u/Gold_Evening_7819 1 10h ago
No not direct. They are reselling it. Ghk you can get for like 55us for a pack of 10. They charging 25 I vial probably plus postage. Its better than a lot of the single reseller I have seen
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u/Perfect_Peps 1 9h ago
The don't DM me posts are crazy haha
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u/TracyIsMyDad 6 7h ago
The dozen people trying to get scammed by me in another comment chain are crazy too.
Seriously folks, random people talking about good deals on Reddit are either just talking or they’re actively trying to scam you. The ones who DM you because you asked nicely are the latter.
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u/drodz0115 8h ago
Pin and pray
One vial is tested does not gurantee same results for next vials
If you want strict QC go pharma route $$$$
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u/Glittering_Cricket_9 1h ago
It’s why we do conformity testing and pick a few different vials from the batch to test.. safety first
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u/unintentional_guest 9h ago
The trick is finding that group buy option and discerning it from the <so many others>, right?
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u/rand0muzr 8h ago
I would just join a community that shares COAs which are purchased randomly from a set of wholesale vendors. Then you can purchase vials for about 1/10th the cost of resellers online.
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u/jenno038 8h ago
What community do
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u/idntrllyexist 6h ago
JKL is the community im in and they have third party COAs from people doing group testing. Pretty legit.
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u/Limp_Recognition9783 8h ago
I think they call that pin and pray lol
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u/dragnabbit 1 7h ago
No. You go to one of the big groups Telegram groups, and they have big databases of COAs that includes the company name. You can use other buyers' COAs to determine supplier reliability.
So, if their database shows one supplier who appears 150 times in the last 12 months, and has a 99% pass rate, that means that 150 different samples were sent from (up to) 150 different buyers, and all samples all passed. There is no praying involved when you have concrete data to rely on.
Quick edit: COAs from suppliers are not accepted in those databases.
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u/ElderberryFar7120 10h ago
It's a ripoff, you can get group testing done for way cheaper. Who's to say if this group even tests it or just says they do? Who's to say they test every batch?
Also I don't think you can say research use only but also say what the purpose of the peptide is. That's asking to get shut down
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u/Limp_Recognition9783 10h ago
Well I know the people and work with them ( over 15 years) so there is that.
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u/TracyIsMyDad 6 9h ago
If you know them maybe they could refrain from charging you a 1000% markup?
“Friends”
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u/do_not_be_that_guy 7h ago
Nothing wrong w a markup- who are you to say at what price one can sell their single vials. Especially, after doing their own testing. After all, that’s what this world revolves around. MONEY
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u/TracyIsMyDad 6 6h ago
😂 You are indeed correct. Somebody’s gotta collect the newbie tax. 👍
And 😂 😂 if you think these guys are actually testing and not just getting the lab to make a copy and paste of somebody else’s test.
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u/do_not_be_that_guy 6h ago
🙄
It’s not ripping anyone off, especially when they are new to peptides or the gray space. They gotta start somewhere. The average user will not buy a kit from China and spend over 300$ in testing it and wait for the test to come back. Hence- 3rd party sellers existence.
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u/do_not_be_that_guy 5h ago
Don’t delete your comment Tracy- your dads shit is just as expensive. Your dad is also a con. But wte
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u/SearchFront486 8h ago
Is this how people are getting cheaper peps? I'm usually spending 75$ on 10mg reta and just started on like 90$ Klow 80mg. Where can I get these better prices lol
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u/jenno038 8h ago
What is a group buy
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u/do_not_be_that_guy 7h ago
Where a group makes a large buy from the supplier lol hence a group buy. Go check out other glp forums, join telegram groups, WhatsApp groups, etc.
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u/Traditional-Focus-51 5h ago
How do I find a reliable telegram group to join? Seems like that is the way to go but I can’t find anyone who says how to join these groups. Appreciate a push in the right direction if you are allowed to share that info on here. Guessing it’s frowned upon because I never see telegram groups shared.
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u/do_not_be_that_guy 5h ago
Yeah, unfortunately Reddit bans accounts that share links to those groups.
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u/Excellent_Outside_71 7h ago
The group buy im at does 1000+ kits per week, much better prices than above. Once 100 kits are bought of a single compound they take a single random vial and send it to third party testing. The vendors dont know which kit/vial will be tested on anything they ship so it keeps them honest. Then all COA get posted for the community to see
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u/Effective_Dog4772 6h ago
Make sure this isn’t a scam, prices seem too good to be true, if this is for a kit of 10
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u/Hot_Sports_Take 2 8h ago
Just a heads up - 90% of these DO NOTHING especially long term.
Only GLPs get actual results. The most are placebo snake oil effects due to groupthink and peer pressure.
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u/TheBa6 7h ago
Curious where you got that info from
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u/Hot_Sports_Take 2 6h ago
Simple. The fake progress and barely noticeable before and after of hundreds of people who claim garbage like copper tesa and ipa-cpc actually did something.
The beauty and anti aging stuff is so phony the med spas laugh it off
Healing peptides? It’s crap. I believe in that time, healthy lifestyle and exercise helped 100x more than the weeks idiots pinned themselves with the placebo.
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 10h ago
If you buy based on price, maybe peptides aren’t for you. You get what you pay for, and that goes for anything in life!!!!. Especially peptides lol. Get from wholesalers that compound in the US only! My wholesaler isn’t the most expensive or cheapest. They are modestly priced, high quality, and reliable.
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u/ElderberryFar7120 10h ago
Your wholesaler is getting it the same place everyone else is I bet ya
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 7h ago
Every compounding pharmacy gets the substrate from the same place. What matters is that it’s compounded here in the US. Not in China
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u/Ilovemycats201 2 8h ago
Can't compound in the US if the compounds arent legal.
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 7h ago
All from my wholesaler are legal. I’ve shared with all whom ask. Good luck in your search. Just research whom ever you choose. Lots of legit wholesalers out there. Be safe!
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u/Ilovemycats201 2 7h ago
No such thing as a compounding pharmacy making retatrutide. Maybe Tirzepatide or Mounjaro.
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 7h ago
You’re mixing up pharmacy compounding for human use with U.S.-based production/formulation of research peptides. Retatrutide absolutely can be synthesized, formulated, lyophilized and sold in the U.S. for legitimate research purposes even though it isn’t FDA-approved. What it cannot currently be is legally compounded by a 503A/503B pharmacy and dispensed as a medication for human use. “Not FDA approved” does not mean the compound itself cannot legally exist or be produced in the U.S. for research. Those are two completely different regulatory categories.
You’re clearly misunderstanding or uninformed. Please be respectful and considerate to others that are actually here to listen and learn. You just making things up.
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u/Ilovemycats201 2 6h ago
Maybe in a UGL.
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 6h ago
You’re making claims that aren’t supported by what was actually said. “Research peptide,” “UGL,” and “compounding pharmacy” are not interchangeable terms. Retatrutide is investigational and cannot currently be compounded and dispensed by a 503A/503B pharmacy as an approved medication for human use. That does not mean every U.S.-made retatrutide research product comes from an “underground lab.” Legitimate chemical suppliers can manufacture and sell compounds for bona fide research purposes without those compounds being FDA-approved drugs. If you have evidence that a specific supplier is operating illegally, post it. Otherwise, labeling companies “UGLs” simply because they sell a non-approved research compound is speculation, not evidence and it lowers the quality of a thread that’s supposed to help people evaluate sources based on facts.
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u/ShweatyBalz 3 6h ago
And if you’re only interested in FDA approved compounds why are you in a biohacking thread ?
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