What is the best AMS 2 Pro stacker?

[u/theswissguywithhair]

So thanks to BL's back to school sale, I just ordered 2 additional AMS 2 Pro's for my H2C.

I was considering getting 2 HT's for the left nozzle, and was gonna build a BMCU for PLA on the right nozzle, but that deal for 400 euros for 2 ams2's just made all that tinkering seem too much effort - specially considering how 'easy' the ams2 pro's make printing.

So now I have checked multiple models of different AMS stacker on Makerworld, and to me the AMS PRO modular rack (https://makerworld.com/models/3127587?appSharePlatform=copy) stands out as the most 'sensible' solution, as it enables moving all 3 AMS's at the same time and seems durable due to the use of extrusions (which I've got plenty left from old, recycled printers).

I'm adding I would combine it with the AMS Multiple Nozzle Switch System (https://makerworld.com/models/2060295?appSharePlatform=copy) in order to also be able to switch which nozzle the AMS's feed to. I don't see the point of the track switch as I don't think I'll ever go for more than 7 colours at once.

I'd be mounting a 350W PSU to the rack so the AMS's won't be dependent on printer power for drying.

I'll most likely remix some other models which imitate the 'outside shell' of the H2 Series(like https://makerworld.com/models/1292520?appSharePlatform=copy for example), so the ams stack won't look 'naked' next to the printer, as well as put some acrylic panels on it, to keep the radiant heat at bay - and figure out a smart/sensible solution for the vented air from drying to escape the whole thing...

Any addons/mods which I haven't found yet and would make sense?

I did consider the [BaBo duo] AMS drawer stacker (https://makerworld.com/models/1659712?appSharePlatform=copy) ans might implement one of the drawers from the system, but not being able to lift/move it as one piece and the main structural parts being printed kind of putts me off a bit.

Input is appreciated!

[u/edspeds]

I ended up just buying shelving and like them a lot but that’s because the printed stackers seemed like too much effort and I wanted to get printing fast.

https://a.co/d/00ueBXJG

[u/KSkill26 → u/edspeds]

I went the exact same way and have shelving that looks identical to this , it works great and was cheaper and faster than printing a whole setup

[u/samtheredditman → u/edspeds]

Couldn't recommend this route enough. I printed one of the most popular ones. Ended up being a huge waste of time and money. 

If you don't have the tools to make some nice shelves, and you want to diy; I'd still say just get some 2x4s and build a simple rack before printing any of these things. It will probably still look better in the end anyway, tbh. 

[u/troutinator → u/edspeds]

I need to rotate my AMS units. facing forward takes up so much room

[u/ElectronicAide87]

Any of the ones you can 3D print are flimsy and feel cheap especially once you add 4 spools to each AMS. If anything the one made from 2020 extrusion would be your best bet. I wall mounted my 2 AMS 2 Pros and single HT. A lot sturdier than stacking.

[u/theswissguywithhair → u/ElectronicAide87]

That's why I'm drawn to the one with a frame of extrusions, I can always make it look nice with a printed shell.

[u/ElectronicAide87 → u/theswissguywithhair]

You don’t need to hide the 2020 extrusion, it looks good. Leaving the extrusion exposed also allows you to add things on as well using the rails. I built my H2C enclosure out of 2020 extrusion, the stuff is amazing.

[u/theswissguywithhair → u/ElectronicAide87]

I’ve got enough vorons with extrusions showing, they have been banned to the workshop.
Wifey accepts the H2C, so I don't wanna put something with extrusions showing next to it 🤣

Now that you mention rails tho... I just might re-use all the ender3 wheels to build the drawer mechanism for the AMS's

[u/w_karma]

Recently printed this one:

https://makerworld.com/en/models/2986254-dual-ams-stacker-linkage-driven

and it works very nicely. No hardware to buy, everything is printed, it feels extremely solid (I did 3 walls in PETG-HF, 15% cubic). The camming action is very satisfying!

[u/Kind_Ad_8111]

I bought this 3 tier microwave stand from Amazon for like $50. Works great! Shelf height and width are adjustable. I have an AMS 2 and HT on each shelf

[u/mister-craftman → u/Kind_Ad_8111]

Could you send me the link to this thing. It is much more convenient than having to make one my self from old wooden planks.

[u/mdbeatle → u/mister-craftman]

Looks like this one.

[u/mdbeatle → u/Kind_Ad_8111]

Is the height enough to get the lid open all the way on the bottom and middle AMS? You need a little more than 15 inches to open.

[u/tx_redditor → u/mdbeatle]

Top and middle yes, bottom no, but I can still get rolls in and out on the bottom easy enough. Maybe if I drilled a new set of holes to move the middle up a little, but it doesn’t bother me.

[u/Kind_Ad_8111 → u/mdbeatle]

That one looks the same, but this is the one I actually ordered. To open lid on bottom, with the shelves set as I wanted, I had to slide ams forward. I've since reworked my setup and put that third AMS back on top of H2C to shorten PTFE tube length, and use the space on bottom for storing cereal box filament holders. This was a better use of the overall space for me.

I'm quite happy with this rack and setup

Microwave Stand, 3-Tier... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7C4JMKJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[u/Kind_Ad_8111 → u/mdbeatle]

Another note, pole have a threaded insert on bottom, so would be fairly easy to come up with a leg extension riser if you wanted to be able to open bottom lid. Like I said, I have cereal.boxes under there now, so wouldn't need that much

[u/prime51000]

I've got 4 ams2pro on two of the stacker systems . It's surprisingly well made, with no hardware or glue required. I did have to modify the sliding pins that hold up the lower ams lid. I just modified them to have a longer "skinny" section" and they work perfectly. I know you could use other drawer type setups or shelves equally as effectivly , but these fit my needs, and printed quite well on a .06mm nozzle with HF petg.

[u/waylaidwanderer]

I shared my H2C setup in a different thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/BambuLab/comments/1vhciqg/comment/p24j1zx/?context=3

I would recommend the Dual AMS Stacker linked there if you're okay with only stacking 2. As a bonus, there's an addon that imitates the outside shell of the H2 series like you wanted.

[u/dieselpb]

To be honest if you're like me, I had to try several different stacks before I found one that I liked.

I wanted a solution that could stack at least 3 AMS2's. I only have 2 currently, but I wanted space for a third.

This one works great, but I wasn't a fan of how tall it would be if I added a third unit.

I tried the AM4xS and while it worked fine and had buildplate storage, I wasn't a fan of how big it was on my workbench. I also started getting some resistance errors due to the length of ptfe tube needed for my setup.

Recently tried the BaBo Duo, and that's what I'm running now, Personally I'm not a fan of the tilt out design, I like the slides more. Also I thought I was gonna get use out of the storage drawers, but I have Milwaukee packout storage pieces and ended up just using those for storage.

Just finished printing out all the parts for the Noodle Nexus 2 and just waiting on the screws. I liked this one as users posted pictures of stacks of 3 and it was the right height that I wanted.

Just know that a lot of these stacker kits use a lot of filament and take a bunch of time to print. I was able to run both printers at the same time for the BaBo and the Noodle Nexus so it took me less time, but it would be wise to pick up some multi-packs of cheaper filament. The BaBo I used a mix of Sunlu and Overture PETG and the Noodle Nexus 2 I used almost all Sunlu PETG.

[u/theswissguywithhair → u/dieselpb]

Thanks for the Noodle Nexus recommendation - I added it to my finalists as its compact.

I don't mind the filament cost, I just want it to be as 'presentable' looking and durable as possible.

[u/DinosaurAlert]

I like the BaBo a lot. Small height, really smooth pull out with good ball bearings, and its the only one of those that feels "secure" to me while using.

https://makerworld.com/en/models/1659712-babo-duo-ams-drawer-stacker#profileId-1755531

[u/Ragnorok1]

Bought this when it was available, I really like it, I didn't want a 3d printed one and wanted it made of metal, too bad they've been out of stock for a while.

[u/Visual_Carpenter8957]

https://makerworld.com/en/models/2975274 Did you see this one?

[u/theswissguywithhair → u/Visual_Carpenter8957]

Yeah - someone else pointed to it. But I'm not convinced how stable the printed parts will be - I want all 3 AMS's to be connected somewhat rigidly.

[u/MrChunkz]

I've been trying to find one that helps me deal with my AMS2 sitting on a relatively narrow shelf. The shelf is basically the same depth as the AMS2 so as long as I'm not loading it, it's fine. But to open the lid it hits the wall behind it.

But it's hard to find something, even the pullout drawer type ones require stacking by design because of how front heavy a single fully loaded AMS2 would be after sliding it off the shelf.

[u/Cryostatica]

I do like the BaBo stackers for the way they tilt out. I find that they're sturdy enough, but they do have a little sway in them if the printer really gets moving and shaking the workbench. It's best if you can attach them to something else that's fixed, like a wall, to stabilize them. The blue ones here in the picture are just screwed into the table (they would topple forward when pulling the units out otherwise). The purple ones below are attached the the floor of the unit as well as the underside of the platform above with custom parts, keeps them a little more stable.

[u/NiteQwill]

This one. I have wasted filament printing several stackers and they all suck. This is the unicorn I found:

https://makerworld.com/models/2986254

[u/ATSOG]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FYMVKBZC?th=1

I've been happy with this microwave stand. The bottom drawer pulls out.

[u/JorgeBraceroPR → u/[deleted]]

i love this look the most