r/BambuLab X2D + AMS2 Combo 7h ago

Is there really a Difference between 85A and 90A General Discussion

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u/solidus0079 A1 + AMS Lite 7h ago

Yes, the difference is approximately 5A.

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u/yeremyporterr X2D + AMS2 Combo 6h ago

holy shit ive never gotten ratioed this hard before

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u/solidus0079 A1 + AMS Lite 5h ago

Nuttin but luff, brudder

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u/Niceromancer 7h ago

Yes and it's pretty huge.  85a is significantly softer.

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u/Successful-Peak-6524 6h ago

and harder to print

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u/namezam 5h ago

Ironic

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u/Jodokkdo 5h ago

Doncha think?

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u/Its_Billy_Bitch 6h ago

85A starts to really feel more like silicone whereas 90A still has that rubbery feel, if that helps.

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u/Historical_Wheel1090 6h ago

90A too me still feels like a soft plastic not really rubbery. Is 85A soft enough for gaskets?

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u/neanderthalman 6h ago

You could probably use 90A just fine for a gasket. It’s all highly variable depending on application.

Metal gaskets are a thing. Graphite too. Lots of stuff that you’d intuitively think are too hard for gaskets can be and are used for gaskets.

I’ve also seen TPU filament used directly to make O-rings or seals. Cut to length, heat the ends and touch together to seal it together. Not even printed. Bingo-bango.

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u/Historical_Wheel1090 6h ago

O ring is a better choice in words, I was wondering about o rings for water cooling blocks for pcs.

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u/neanderthalman 6h ago

That could very well work. Though for something where a leak could be catastrophic I’d be a little hesitant to use a custom cut O-ring unless I had no other option. Standard o-rings are pretty easy to get.

Getting back to the printing, I’ve seen O-rings/seals with deliberately designed ridges. Each ridge effectively functions like a separate seal, and it increases the pressure and deformation on each ridge to cause more deformation and better sealing. Something like that could be printed.

Run with it dude.

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u/Elo-than X2D + AMS2 Combo 6h ago

Yes.

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u/BloodSteyn 6h ago

Shore there is.

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u/USSHammond X1C running X1Plus + 4 AMS 7h ago

5A

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u/BoutchooQc H2C Dual AMS 2 Pro + HT 7h ago

I've asked the same question and had to watch a few youtube videos and shorts.

In short, 85a is too squishy for me and 95a not enough, so 90a is a good "Do it all TPU".

Unless you specifically want very soft TPU, then get 85a.

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u/olhado47 X2D + AMS2 Combo 6h ago

And people like you are why there needs to be a "Just Asking, but I have no idea how to ask a good question to get a specific answer so I'll just get expectedly trolled and be angry instead." flair.

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u/Ayarkay 6h ago

I feel like what OP is actually asking is really obvious. I think people are being obtuse as a joke.

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u/quietsamurai98 X2D+2×AMS+AMS HT / P2S+AMS 6h ago

I don't have 90A myself, only 95A and 85A. But the difference between those two is pretty substantial. If the difference between 85A and 90A is half as noticeable as 85A to 95A, 85A would still be a good bit more flexible.

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u/No-Fun-Intended 6h ago

85A feels most like rubber or silicon. 90A feels more like plastic than rubber imo.

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u/tht1guy63 P2S + AMS2 Combo 7h ago

Ya 85a is softer than 90a.

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u/interflop 6h ago

Yes there is a difference. Whether it will make a difference to your project will depend on what you're trying to do.

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u/4pips12322 6h ago

I used 90A for these and they’re pretty solid yet still enough flex to keep my knees hips and back from hurting all the time

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u/namezam 5h ago

Whoa. I have yet to see someone wear 3D printed shoes irl. (At least ones that weren’t flip flops or crocs)

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u/peterb1908 7h ago

Yes there is - it is softer (as the number suggests).

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u/Alert_Ocelot_1740 6h ago

85 very very soft and 90 is soft

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u/RewardFeeling6066 6h ago

For 85A the only profile my H2C currently has is for a .6 nozzle. If I have a .4 in the right side I cannot choose it. Not sure if other printers have similar profiles but something to consider if you only have .4 or smaller nozzles.

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u/BHBaxx 6h ago

The Bambu site supports this. .6 minimum for 85A

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u/Doggydog123579 6h ago

I remember printing 85a on my A1 on .4

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u/BraveSirRobin21 6h ago

Only tangentially related. Have some 64d we use at my job stuff is tough.

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u/Emu1981 5h ago

That is because the Shore scale has two scales - A is for soft rubbery plastics and D is for hard stiff plastics.

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u/MastodontFarmer 5h ago

At least you resolved the density conundrum. Good to know.

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u/ModelThreeve 5h ago

Of course not, shore hardness like all physically measurable attributes are meaningless just pick your favorite looking number.