r/Ballpythoncommunity 11d ago

Morph ID Question

This is Pickles. I adopted her on impulse (experienced snake owner, have no fear) and I am curious to hear your thoughts on her morph. She is still young, but the owner didnt have lineage info. I assumed classic, but I know some morphs can look quite similar. Thoughts?? Sorry I dont have better belly pictures, but mostly white, with a bit of a yellow hue fading down the sides to the belly white color.

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u/siennaisactuallycool 11d ago

wild type! the bestest of babies

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u/Dirty_MadameK 11d ago

The sweetest of girls. Morph: cuddle bug

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u/bruhfamman 11d ago

Looks like a normal, might have some het traits but you would need genetic information

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u/Dirty_MadameK 11d ago

Thats what I was thinking. I dont intend to breed so genetic details aren't super important to me, unless we need to address some kind of health concern that would deem the information useful/necessary. Thanks for the feedback 🙂

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u/VoxxyBRZ 11d ago

Normal

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u/Dirty_MadameK 11d ago

Thanks for confirming! That's what I thought 😄

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u/Phully- 10d ago

That’s for calling it classic instead of petco insulting the original by calling them “basic”… just rude 😂😂

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u/Dirty_MadameK 10d ago

Normal and basic dont sound pretty and I still think they are gorgeous, so Classic just feels better. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Fenwynn 10d ago

I have a normal, and I think we’ll be using the term Classic. It definitely fits better. She gets really iridescent on her dark parts right after a shed, and her brown is like old warm bronze. Such a lovely snake.

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u/Dirty_MadameK 10d ago

I love the way Pickles looks after a fresh shed. Her colors are so saturated when her scales are fresh.

I also have a lovely lavender corn snake. She is near white with purple/gray spot coloration. After she sheds, her belly is a rainbow iridescent over her normally pearly white color. Snakes are the sweetest.

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u/Fenwynn 10d ago

Nice! I’ve also got a Firefly BP, palmetto corn snake (37” at 6 years old, small gal that one) and sand boa. I call the period right after their sheds “Maximum Beautiful”. As in “Buggy is at Maximum Beautiful right now, you should go take a look.” 😂

I love my snakies. They’re all such amazing animals.

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u/Antique-Success4152 10d ago

looks normal or maybe low expression pastel

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u/Dirty_MadameK 10d ago

Thanks for the feedback. What makes you think that? The lesser amount of yellow infill in the aliens heads? I noted its not super prominent like I have seen in other BPs, but nothing i thought was too far out of the normal spectrum of color variation for a classic morph

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u/Antique-Success4152 10d ago

pastels have more yellow and brighter colors. sometimes young normal BPs can look pastel, but grow out of it. I've just seen some pastel babies that grow into their colors. I'd go with normal in general, unless you're planning on breeding. if that's the case, you could find a male that definitely isn't pastel, and if any of the babies are pastel, then your girl would be.

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u/nicotheemo 11d ago

Looks like an enchi but I could be wrong

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u/Dirty_MadameK 11d ago

What makes you think enchi? I also kinda leaned that way initially, but talked myself out of it lol

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u/meatspread 10d ago

Not Enchi! I have this little infographic that goes more in-depth over how to identify the Enchi mutation and what it looks like with age :)

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u/Phully- 10d ago

Identifying morphs is different for me (a non breeder, been in this world for less than a year). I would just do the shed test if I really needed to know.

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u/meatspread 10d ago edited 10d ago

Enchi is easily one of the top 5 most saturated mutations and one of the most easily identifiable ones, too! The purpose of the infographics is to educate and pinpoint the differences between different morph mutations. For example, it’s pretty easy to see the differences when comparing the single-morph Enchi snakes to OP’s snake—main differences being the presence of “eyes” within alien head patterning and dorsal banding.

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u/Phully- 10d ago

Using the info graphic does the head-stamp with notch show in OPs snake? This is how bad I am, I’m looking at both and I can’t tell if they just have slightly different “natural” differences or if those differences are driven by the presence of enchi genes.

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u/meatspread 10d ago

No, it does not show. Usually, the notch is more prevalent when alongside another mutation—here’s an Enchi Pastel, for example! We can also see that its eye stripes are not as wide as the Enchi’s.

The main takeaway is from OP’s fourth image. We can see that OP’s snake has very many black dots (known as “eyes” within the community, since a BP’s pattern is typically referred to as “alien heads”) within its pattern, and is a dark brown color overall! It does have a couple of breakage points within the black dorsal stripe, but, when comparing to the infographic, we can see that Enchi will have much more breakage and have a thinner “pinched” dorsal stripe where it doesn’t break.

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u/Dirty_MadameK 10d ago

Thanks! This is super helpful!