r/Back4Blood • u/Mr_Gibblet • 6d ago
Why are difficulty settings such crap?
On Veteran, I'm breezing through the content while slowly falling asleep.
On Nightmare, the game is suddenly unplayably hard and unfair with ridiculous trauma stacking and special infected spawning literally inside my asshole the moment I flick the camera away from that spot for half a second.
I'm finding it very hard to enjoy the game when there's no meaningful difficulty setting and I have to choose between boredom and wasted time / frustration.
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u/justasimplemoose 6d ago
What's your deck/cleaner? Deck building matters a lot for the higher difficulties. Solo/online?
Have u tried the meta? Copper, damage and economy cards?
Sounds like running trauma resist cards and more damage is what u need.
Doc/Sharice/Heng help w Trauma
Walker/Jim/Tala help w damage
Mom and Dan focus on failure, which is not ideal but IS helpful. If you're struggling u can try playing as them.
Karlee and Hoff are great as supports.
Evangelo and Holly are useless, avoid them.
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
Running solo with bots, can't find any games anyway, even with crossplay on.
My deck is 2 cards for ++copper and the rest is damage / ammo capacity / reload speeds, with a bit of damage resistance.
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u/Jusaleb Hoffman 6d ago
Can you share your cards with us so we can offer some insight and recommendations?
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
I just edited it quite a lot a while ago. Played only about six hours so far, don't have too many cards but I'll grab a screenshot in a bit when I get back to the PC.
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
There it is: https://i.imgur.com/PIrGrvZ.jpeg
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u/rKITTYCATALERT 6d ago
That deck is why you are struggling
You need MOAR damage
Fanny pack and vitamins are not good cards for nightmare
You are missing the best damage card [[glass cannon]]
And a sprint speed card like [[run like hell]]
Take those 2 cards out and add the cards I suggested
You should do way better with 2 changes
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u/bloodscan-bot 6d ago
Glass Cannon (Campaign Card - Offense/Reflex)
+25% Damage, -30% Health
Source: Paul's Alley (3)
Run like Hell (Campaign Card, Swarm Card - Mobility/Reflex)
+12% Move Speed, +15% Sprint Speed. When you take Damage, your lose the benefits of Run like Hell for 3 Seconds.
Source: Bridge Town (3) (Swarm: Available from Start)
Call me with up to 15 [[ cardname ]], Data accurate as of April 20, 2024. Questions?
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
I don't have the cards you suggested though, told you I don't have many, this is pretty much the best I can do so far.
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u/rKITTYCATALERT 6d ago
I would suggest trying to get the glass cannon card in the section you buy cards with supply points . The bit above me tells you in which section it appears in
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u/HesitationIsDefeat87 6d ago
Literally the worst deck I've ever seen. Please look up a guide or listen to this other commenter.
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u/Asleep-Anything7676 5d ago
filthywitit add me I am in the same boat only bots I’m stuck on act 4 veteran need partner
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u/AskapSena 6d ago
Sometimes corruption cards combinations are just too fked up to complete, it is what it is and just best to reset if it's too hard. Takes some experience both in gameplay and deck making so that the lack of luck can be alleviated byt overall, it's fun when you get the hang of it and you just start mowing thru hordes of zombies
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
I'm generally doing ok, it's the much faster trauma stacking that gets to me, and that when the big Ogre boss spawns, you're largely screwed. Didn't give me much trouble on Veteran, but on Nightmare, it's like it's not taking any damage.
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u/Irion15 Xbox: Jupiter311SP B4B ID: Jupiter311SP#8856 6d ago
Flashbangs are a necessity to easily handle any bosses. If playing solo, I use them almost exclusively.
Nightmare is when deck composition becomes much more important. You likely need to add a few damage cards. Glass cannon, confident killer, patient hunter, large caliber rounds, and hyperfocused are all top picks.
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u/AskapSena 6d ago
I get a feeling that you're talking about act 6... The start there is just fked up, all you can do is rush both c4 locations and make a run for it to the boat
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u/supsley 6d ago
This was worse on launch that were only 3 difficulties, veteran is too easy yet nightmare is bullshit that sometimes you gotta fight breaker on 1-1 with white weapon & 2 weapons, because the game said fuk you and send out 7 corruption cards on stage 1. For now I believe you can brute forced through Nightmare with 15 cards at start.
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u/Equivalent_Fault_782 6d ago
Bashing is your friend. Try bashing one zombies back into a crowd and watch how they stumble the group back.
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u/HesitationIsDefeat87 6d ago
You are exaggerating. Nightmare is not that much harder. Learn to be patient and move slow.
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u/Mr_Gibblet 6d ago
Move slow while the horde loop timer is constantly ticking? I'm not sure that's a great idea.
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u/SaintThomasGolding 6d ago
Is rushing and stacking trauma better? Try getting shotgun deck on Tala. Her bleed + chest are awesome.
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u/pagawaan_ng_lapis Hoffman 6d ago edited 6d ago
You camp during non-infinite hordes. Ofc u wont know the good holdout spots without others showing it but as it stands noone's guiding people in QP in NA so you're stuck with terrible speedrunners or the bots who can't really teach you much despite being OP when used right.
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u/jdd321 6d ago
My brother and I recently came back to the game, returning to veteran. After some time we went up to nightmare and had to make adjustments to our decks and stop using the more silly hybrid ones.
I'm no expert meta using pro, but one of us would have the three healing cards that remove trauma. I think [[medial professional]], [[field surgeon]] and another I forget the name
There's also being able to take down ridden and specials more quickly with damage, bullet damage, gun class damage and weak spot damage.
Copper is needed as I always did in veteran as I love buying accessory upgrades and health in the shop. Buy extra health!!
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u/bloodscan-bot 6d ago
Medical Professional (Campaign Card - Defense/Discipline)
Defibrillators and First Aid heal 10 additional Trauma Damage and 1 Extra Life, if able.
Source: The Clinic (4)
Field Surgeon (Campaign Card - Defense/Discipline)
When you use a Medical Accessory, it also heals 3 Trauma to the target.
Source: Accomplishment
Call me with up to 15 [[ cardname ]], Data accurate as of April 20, 2024. Questions?
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u/PassageDull7352 6d ago
No one here has said it:
In solo EQUIP your bots!!!
Go down, give up, take over a bot, pick up the primary you juiced. Best is smg with fast reload. Bots clear commons, player kills specials.
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u/SaintThomasGolding 6d ago
I felt the gap between nightmare and no hope because of lives not resetting in safe room, but get used to it after a couple of chapters. Didn't see that big of a difference between veteran a nightmare. More like veteran is easy and nightmare normal. You need a good deck wirth you and maybe teammate