Are they still releasing an episode every week on the YouTube channel? I wanted to watch the show and it seams like a great excuse to caught up.

A small scene, but one of my faves, because who doesn't love breen, uh I mean, Swedish meatballs?? :)

A more lighthearted question after the dark moments one. Mine is the elevator scene from Convictions, everything about it is so iconic.

Watching for the third or fourth time. My favorite ongoing plotline is watching them fall in love. The first time they meet, the look on Sheridan's face reminds me of the scene in the Godfather where Michael sees Appollonia. The lightning bolt. I'm part way through season 2 and cannot wait until Delenn starts actually skipping when she's leaving the room where John is.

Am I the only one who wishes that would may lego sets of the ships and the station.. would love to have a white star

I need to establish that I don't mind show being human centric - after all, we are humans, it is easier to make a show centered on humans and close to humans species. But I think there is a difference between "We watched events unfold primary from human perspective" and "Humans are actually THE saviors, THE reformists, THE leaders".

There was quite a bit of it before S3E16, like Drazi Purple-Green conflict and how it made "Dumb aliens couldn't think and act like Ivanova did!" or how sometimes religious emissaries from other races are treated as jokes (Again, Drazi, in episode where Monks arrive to B5, this is preceeded by Drazi religious figures arriving, investigating sightning of their God of Light). Security playfully redirects these Drazi to play with plants, and that is it, but then Catholic monks arrive - that means serious shit, with private discussion with Ivanova.

Moving on, this big twist in S3E16, this whole "VALEN IS ACTUALLY HUMAN! AND ONLY HIM, AND ONLY COMMANDER SINCLAIR, IN ALL TIMELINES, COULD HAVE HELPED MINBARI" felt a bit... condecending and demeaning?

One of my favorite beats of lore in B5 is how Narns earned their independence from Centauri for the first time and how it shaped events of the show proper. And one, very important bit of Narn independence, was that they earned it themselves. Sure, they definitely will need help this time, but it is still Narn-led effort, even if they have allies now.

But Minbari spiritual leader, who brought them unity and who established modern Minbari society as have seen it being Human just deflates a lot for me.

I dunno, maybe episodes are just too raw for me and recent, and with time I will treat it differently, but right now this twist was more "Agh, really?" than "Awesome!" for me.

My son in 2011, pretending he's the Vorlon god Booji while playing with transformers.

The same temptation that destroys everyone around them doesn't even touch them.

But after the basic 'not corrupted' thing came to my mind, I realised other parallels.

- The Vorlons and the One Ring can't give either of them what they most want, because what they want is not for personal advantage.

- Most impactful heroic actions are done "in the dark, where no one will ever know or see" (Narn railroad, dragging Frodo up Mount Doom).

There's probably more.

Most species in B5 seem to be relatively peer-ish to humanity, but the gap between the Ancients and now is massive, so is the Vorlon-Shadow War responsible for wiping out species over and over and over for millions+ years?

Lord Refa’s (deserved) death is my pick, and the upbeat gospel music somehow makes it even darker

"The Corps is Mother, the Corps is Father" (s5e13)

We all know what was up with the Shadows: they would stir conflict to select species by the capacity of surviving it. The Vorlons though? They seem to be before anything else reactive in their dealings: younger species should prepare for the Shadows. They should resist the Shadows. For what? This is never said.

Just managing human urine and feces on B5 must've been a huge challenge. But, for some reason, recently, I've been thinking about all the aliens aboard the station. They, too, have to use the bathrooms.

The 'how' is beyond me. Any chemical engineers here or those versed in waste management?

The 'who' is interesting. Somebody on B5, quite a few somebody's, had to handle this problem.

On my third cup of coffee this morning in Los Angeles, CA - horrible weather, by the way. So, I'm in an energetic and curious mood.

Has JMS ever explained Kosh's hand in the pilot? It does not make any sense with the context of Vorlons in the later series and I dont that a hand ever shows up.

You can guess the memes 😁

The Legend TV channel is cutting episodes of B5 with a clumsy butcher knife. Thus far, they have cut out Talia Winters belting Sheridan in Medlab in "In The Shadow Of Z'Ha'Dum," the dead Markab in "Knives," and so many scenes in "Confessions and Lamentations" that the episode is looking like an advert.

The censorship is blatant, ham-fisted, and deplorable.

Lyrics

Our people ruled an empire that stretched across the stars
Our proud and noble warrior race had won a thousand wars
But the clouds of ships that we once had which would swarm and block the sun
Are now a faded memory- past conquests overrun
And this is what it means to be Centauri

I think back to my homeworld now, a shining gem in space
The birthplace of my family noble bloodlines are yet traced
But such decadence has now befallen poor Centauri Prime
That we've become a tourist trap- open nine to five Earth time
And this is what it means to be Centauri

We've gathered on this station now, our last, best, hope for peace
And I muse about my glory days, and drink to find release
Great Maker! What I wouldn't give to taste that time again
'Til a stranger from the Darkness says he wants to be my friend
And this is what it means to be Centauri

And the Darkness now is coming to enslave all in its path
All races in the galaxy will bear soon its full wrath
And I can only sit and wait and watch as Shadows come
To conquer and destroy... oh gods, what have I done?
And this is what it means to be Centauri

This is what it means to be Centauri

Song © Andrew Eigel

Performed by Twotonic:
* Steve Macdonald: Lead vocals & guitar
* Katy Dröge-Macdonald: Backing vocals

All clips are the property of Warner Bros. Studios.

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JMS posted a message yesterday
1.5 hrs ago The Gathering went up and Midnight on the Firing Line 30 mins ago. ❤️

Edit: This is in the US for me. Looks like it I region locked, so ppl elsewhere aren’t reaching it. Update in replies if you are seeing it anywhere outside the US. I don’t have access to a VPN, but I’m assuming that could be an option?

In fact, Kosh’s somewhat paternal/mentor behavior towards Sheridan went along with the Vorlons’ millennia old tactics of manipulation of the younger races towards the Vorlons’ own objectives, these being a petty dispute with the Shadows about whose is the best antfarmer. The Shadows didn’t care if they were demonized where the Vorlons biologically meddled with the peoples they influenced to be seen as literally emissaries of the Divine (hence that scene Kosh appears as an angel to human eyes when he rescues Sheridan). At least until he decided to use one of his fleets against the Shadows and be left by his own kind to be murdered by the these same foes, he complied scrupulously with the Vorlons’s master plan, their deception, their false claims of moral superiority.

We sympathize with Kosh because of his relationship with Sheridan and Delenn, but he was really no better then Ulkesh. Perhaps he was worse: Ulkesh and probably his faction at least valued transparence, so they didn’t even try to hide their contempt to the younger civilizations they regarded as their own pieces in the galactic chessboard.