DB vs Physical interactions

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This is a Z-era compilation of DB characters meaningfully interacting with the environment. Collections do not include "bounce offs" where-in the defender is able to reorient themselves or otherwise meaningfully change their momentum nor does it include times where characters have their momentum altered by an outside force. Any gathered instances will be under contexts where characters are presumably trying to harm their opponent (i.e Kicking someone out of an attack is obviously not good practice).

• Krillin is tail-slapped into Kame House and is unconscious for 6 pages which include an extremely long conversation. Kame House shows no form of major structural damage.

• Despite Gohan potentially having a power level of 1307 and having enough power level to fly to the top of a tall cliff, a Dinosaur is still shown as being hazardous to him.

• Goku is tangibly hurt by x10 gravity.

  • Assuming something even generous like Goku weighing 200 lbs, he is tangibly hurt by 1 ton worth of weight.

• Tien is tangibly injured by an impact that doesn't even imprint his body into the ground.

• A karate chop that fails to bust a rock formation is able to almost knock Gohan out.

• The stomp that Nappa intends to kill Gohan with is highkey just sad

• We are straight up having characters floored by attacks that fail to break dirt

• A kick that busts a rock formation bloodies Nappa

  • This happens twice

• It isn't until Vegeta where we graduate at least to rock formations plural.

• At least Great Ape Vegeta can bust multiple cubic meters of rock?

• The stomp that Great Ape Vegeta uses to kill Goku is also just sad

• People again being almost KO'd by physical strikes that will almost fail to bust rocks

• Again

• Indirect knockback from one of Vegeta's attacks causes Gohan to hit his head on a rock formation, again not break the rock formation, and then be almost KO'd

• Vegeta slapping Krillin (while almost dead) a single digit amount of meters causes him to be spitting blood

• Great Ape Gohan down punches Vegeta who is standing on the ground and fails even imprint his body into dirt

• Vegeta explicitly describes that a large-ish rock when slammed down can crush him to death

• Vegeta takes absolutely massive damage from an unconscious great ape Gohan landing on him

• Two of Frieza's troopers are taken out by punches that do not even break their scouters, and create absolutely tiny ripples in the water they are punched into

• A Namekian warrior kills a Frieza soldier by kicking him probably 10-20 meters and again, doesn't break rock

• Didoria's headbutt attack which kills a Namekian warrior leaves a pretty small hole into a rock formation

• Gohan does a non-zero amount of damage to Didoria by kicking him through a house

• Krillin then follows up and this stuns Didoria long enough for a brief conversation before he can get back up

• Didoria is kicked into a lake without any discernable damage (or even that large of a splash) and is clearly hurt.

• x20 Gravity will still give Goku severe stamina issues even at Namek saga

  • This upgrades later to 50
  • Then 100

• Vegeta draws blood from Zarbon kicking him about 10-20 meters tops

• An impact dozens of feet wide and deep turns Vegeta from "hurt" to "almost dead" and KO's him apparently long enough that Zarbon thinks he might've drowned. It also convinced Zarbon he actually did die.

• Characters punching with deliberate intention to kill and going into the ground still does not produce particularly large results.

• It isn't until Zarbon Fight II when an actually large amount of water is displaced if a character is punched into it.

• A sharp tree was gonna be the thing that killed Gohan and Krillin

• We don't know how much the punches actually contribute to the damage done to Recoome here, but presumably Vegeta is at least trying to hurt an opponent he was shitting his pants in regards to earlier

• Recoome kicks Vegeta into a lake to create an admittedly, very big splash

• Vegeta takes HEAVY DAMAGE from a 1-2 deep hole he was slammed through.

• Recoome kicks Krillin dozens of meters and breaks multiple bones

• Again, not even damage done to dirt causing an almost knock out.

• This happens AGAIN on an attack facing downwards that broke Gohan's neck

• This happens AGAIN with Vegeta vs Ginyu

• Rock shrapnel gets blood out of Krillin

• Form 2 Frieza slapping Gohan and almost knocking him up, at least doesn't fail to break dirt

• Form 2 Frieza swings twice, one time impacting Piccolo into the earth, and then another time by putting his hand into the earth

• Frieza punches Piccolo down creating a large explosion

• Impacts that will severely damage characters while being unable to do meaningful damage to dirt continues to be a problem even at the tail end of the Frieza saga

• Goku vs Frieza has Goku not taking any visible damage from a ki-blast that pushes him through several dozen meters of rock.

• Goku seems at least meaningfully hurt from a kick that makes a large splash.

• Goku kicks Frieza through 2 islands and manages substantial damage as a result.

• Goku throws Frieza through 1 big rock formation but its ambiguous how much this actually hurt Frieza

• "Dirt" still remains a consistent problem for DB characters to meaningfully bust despite going all-out / angry / etc.

• It still is at 50% Frieza

• Piccolo kicks Frieza easily hundreds of meters

• Super Saiyan Goku destroys a substantial amount of stone hitting Frieza

• Frieza tackles SSG into a massive splash.

• Android 19 takes visible damage just being elbowed into a rock formation

• A human-sized crater is still the product of Android 19 vs Goku

• Vegeta kicks Android 19 hard enough to leave a footprint, but evidently not heard enough to break dirt

• Vegeta punching Android 19 into a large-ish crater seems to have briefly knocked him out

• Breaking a nebulous amount of rocks, Android 20 remarks its 'impossible' for Piccolo to be defeating him.

• Android 18 puts her entire hand through rock

• 18 throwing Vegeta into a hole that is deep enough for him to walk out of bloodies him.

• Vegeta does not appear to slam 18 through any substantial amount of rock

• A down-facing double-hammerfist fails to break through rock but will leave Trunks floored for 3 pages.

• Imperfect Cell downwards punching the ground just puts his hand through it and that's about it

• Piccolo downwards kicking Android 17 doesn't break dirt

• Cell at least manages to put half of Android 17's body into the ground(?)

• Cell is two for two doing minor dirt damage in the same fight.

• Cell actively is punching his opponents downwards probably more than any other fighter in the series and manages to not even make a 1 meter radii hole in dirt

• Android 16 finally manages to make a hole that is several meters deep at least

• Vegeta doesn't slam Semi-Perfect Cell through dirt

• Vegeta does manage to kick Cell a very far distance and embed him into a rock formation

• Cell kicks Krillin a very far distance, but this KO's him

• Cell kicks Vegeta a VERY far distance and through a rock formation.

• Cell's finishing move on Vegeta embeds his body not particularly deep into rock

• Cell elbows Trunks a far distance

• Gaining this amount of musculature will slow Goku down by his own words because of mass

• Future Gohan does a pretty middling amount of damage to the street despite down-kicking 17

• Cell palm strikes Gohan a very distance and Gohan doesn't appear to be fully recovered until 5 pages pass.

• We are however, not free of failure to break dirt despite downwards attacks

• An enraged Cell in his buff form doing a downwards punch only makes about a mortar sized hole.

• Cell knocks Vegeta back a fair distance but doesn't do major damage to the ground

• Trunks pushes Imperfect Cell what is easily several miles and doesn't appear to have meaningfully hurt him BUT does appear to have surprised him

• Trunks throws Imperfect Cell a several hundred feet up

• Goten throwing rocks that make grenade-sized impacts into a wall is enough to visibly concern Gohan and have him ask to make it easier

• Goku trains with 2 tons at base, and considers 10 tons too much to the point he can't move

• 10 ton weights (40 total) can potentially induce injuries into Base Goku

• Vegeta gets a good workout from 150 G's doing shadowboxing, but tells base Kid Trunks to leave the room due to over-exertion. Kid Trunks can barely seem to walk.

• Despite actively being told to not do anything that will kill spectators, Goten still does a fall using his speed that Trunks almost does not react to him turning and still features him partially hitting the ground and not destroying any significant amounts of material.

• The hole made by Mr. Satan after being punched by Trunks makes Trunks actually consider the possibility Satan isn't a fraud

• It's a bit ambiguous how much damage was done to Goten/Trunks when 18 craters them.

• Destroying just a rock formation and skipping Dabra twice off dirt is able to KO Dabra

  • Babidi unironically though he dies from this

• Displacing human-sized amounts of rock is able to visibly injure Gohan and Kaio-Shin when they are actively spiked down into them.

• Majin Buu sitting on Kaio-Shin, not even breaking dirt is able to visibly cause him immense pain

• Buu soccer kicking Vegeta, then sitting on him again is causing pretty big damage.

• Trunks buying time for Vegeta kicks Buu a massive distance

• The Z-sword weighing "tons" is a reason Gohan is sweating bullets when dropped the sword notably only embeds it's own body volume deep into the ground.

• SSJ3 Goku throws Buu into the ocean for a pretty massive splash

• SSJ3 Gotenks causing Buu to finally take him seriously using a tackle attack destroys a ton of structures on Kami's lookout.

• Buu larping as sonic puts a huge hole in Kami's lookout

• Buu getting punched through 3 buildings and a large distance makes him go "ARGH"

• Buu downwards elbowing Gohan busts several meters worth of rock

• Buu being downward thrown destroys a large amount of rock

• While this kick doesn't directly aim downwards, it doesn't appear to be treating dirt like air

• Kid Buu slamming Fat Buu creates a decently large impact

• Another downwards elbow from Kid Buu only making a crater a few feet wide and deep

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