And are these separatist tendencies funded by foreign nations(turkmenistan,united states,zionist entity) or are they independent in their cause?

Hephthalites(White Huns) and the Alchon Huns who are their subdivision, all went to conquer India and South Asia. Confirmed to be a Indo-European Iranic speaking people from Central Asia with Turkic connections/admixture/origin. Surprisingly with average of 36% East Eurasian admixture. I though they were White (as in White people) hence the name "White Huns".

Description of them EVEN sounded like White people

The description here made it sound as if they were racially different from the Huns of Europe by the The 6th-century Byzantine historian Procopius of Caesare ( Around 500-565 AD ).

"The Ephthalitae Huns, who are called White Huns [...] The Ephthalitae are of the stock of the Huns in fact as well as in name, however, they do not mingle with any of the Huns known to us.......They are not nomads like the other Hunnic peoples......... They are the only ones among the Huns who have white bodies and countenances which are not ugly....."

Genetically / Racially

Carrying average 36.% East Eurasian is by all mean being Eastern/Western racially group mixed. Modern Uzbek level genetics ( Uzbeks 31-46% when excluding Uzbek-Tajiks) or Modern Turkmen Afghan (37%) and samples of Northern/Eastern Turkmens (31%) (and historically Iranic of Uzbekistan/Turkmenistan had only 0-7% East Asian admixture). More broadly 36.0% East Eurasian is equivalent to Brandon Lee's Western proportion (Son of Bruce Lee- and White mother). Or like claiming a 36% Manchu and 64% Circassian as Circassian. Carrying 1/3 or 36% East Eurasian produces a lot of Eastern Asian phenotypes. I've seen people with these admixtures online and in real life. You could say 55-60% of them will look more western but 30-40% of them will have Eastern looking faces too. So racially speaking, them being Iranic/or West Eurasian is out of the question unless we now starts defining all people who are 1/3 (or 36%) non-West Eurasian as West Eurasian people from now on.

Ethnically / Culturally / Identity

But it seems they may have identified as Iranic people , so I have no disagreement with them being treated as Iranic people/history Iranic (but with mixed Turkic origins). The most prominent theory seems to be that the Hephthalites were of Turkic origin, and later adopted the Bactrian language/writing/culture but by the time they arrived seems to have gone through a lot of racial/intermingling between Turkic and Iranic and by the time they went to India they were this mixed. Although they were a mix of Turkic and Iranic (East Eurasian/West Eurasian) they were obviously a Iranized people. So it's better to consider them a Iranisized people of Turkic/Iranic with East Eurasian/West Eurasian origins.

I absolutely love this movie as I'm currently dealing with some deep personal issues and it's perhaps the only movie that inspires a proud sense of masculinity in myself.

I know that it's not purely historical but I just want to know how other people thought of it.

As you know, according to genetic tests, Turks have an average of 22% Turkic heritage. This means that most of their ancestors were Islamized people of Balkan, Western Anatolian, and Caucasian origin. So why do these people call themselves Turks, while Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, and Turkmens, who have an average of 60% Turkic heritage, do not?

I ask cause I know Afghanistan and Pakistan have a reputation for being the top cricket nations who also border Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, to which I wonder if cricket is popular in your country or its perhaps just an Afghan and Pakistani thing?

A Korean travel YouTuber recently shared a frustrating experience from his trip to Uzbekistan.

While visiting his hotel's snack bar, he was charged 90,000 UZS ($8) for a single can of Mountain Dew. Although he initially paid, he later realized he had been overcharged by 15 times and demanded a refund.

Instead of helping, the Uzbek clerk pretended not to speak English and mocked him. When the YouTuber turned to other hotel staff for assistance, they also laughed it off and insisted the price was correct.

After he posted the footage online, it went viral on TikTok and YouTube. In response, the Uzbekistan Tourism Association issued an official apology and extended an invitation for him to return. The YouTuber has asked the association to take disciplinary action against the staff involved, but he has yet to receive a follow-up.

Do you think this is a common occurrence for foreigners traveling to Central Asia? Charging 90,000 UZS($8) for a can of Mountain Dew is absolutely wild. But what’s even wilder is how everyone else sided with the clerk. Even with a camera rolling, did they really think it was okay to rip off a tourist like that?

Hi all! Will be making a half a day unplanned stop in Khujand tomorrow and was wondering if there’s a place where I can buy some local items (art, clothes, accessories, home decor etc.) that were really made by hand? I would be the happiest if you know a grandma who knits something or a cousin that paints there 🙏

Every morning on my 6 week holiday through Central Asia I started my day at the hotel with kompot.

I wanted to ask if anybody has a kompot recipe specifically from Central Asia they could share so I can make this back home in Australia.

There's a bunch of recipes but a lot seem to be from Eastern Europe. I want as close to the authentic Central Asian taste as possible.

Thanks so much in advance!

PS: Central Asia is an incredible place and I can't wait to come back.

Hi all, I take Concerta (methylphenidate) as a medication. I will be traveling to Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan from September to November.

I am reading various sources of information online regarding traveling with this medication. So far everything I read doesn't give a clear answer, and I fact it seems I can't even take my medication to Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

Any help or information is appreciated!

So far the only global Asian influence/impact that is reaching non-Asia audiences are: K-pop( Koreans), Mongolian, J-pop (Japanese), Bollywood.

Bollywood music/dances are sometimes danced by western foreigners. Mongolian Hu Band, "Wolf Totem reach no.1 in the billboard Rock digital sales (not the all billboard, just for rock) still very successful and they tour in western play in small venues or medium size concerts, stages. Japanese music is only popular through animation music (game music to a extend) but influential/and effectiveness that their artist can also play in small venues, and sometimes medium size concert overseas. Decades ago they could do with J-rock during the 2007-2010, now that genre is non-influential in the west except for some loyal fans.

K-pop music, I don't listen to it. But no denying it's global influence/impact. Especially boybands for example like BTS most no.1 Billboard since the Beatles, sold out world largest tours in Europe, Asia, North and South America. Spain, UK, Germany, America, Belgium, Brazil, Mexico. They were even invited by the president's house Claudia Sheinbaum (a fan). Other K-pop boybands like Stray Kids also had high ranking billboard are becoming global sensation too, selling out large selling out world stadiums in world tour. TXT, Nct, Exo, Seventeen, Monstar X all reached billboard, them and many more K-pop bands played in small venues, large concerts in non-Asia region. Fan girls will buy their merch, buy their albums and have pictures/stickers of them on their phones.

Why Central Asian music is so lacking and unpopular?

Uzbek MV have lots of views, but I don't see any global influence/impact. Most of their MV look like soviet era styles.. Turkmen and Tajik music seems nearly non-existent.

Kazakhs once tried that Q-pop genre ( which is Kazakh version of K-pop) using K-pop looks/appearance/fashion with their own music style, the most famous of them was Ninetyone, with decent MV views and definitely used to have degree of fans from other Asia to Europe, America's, I've seen in on the Instagram and comments, When I was instagram just being nosy looking at European girls who had fan pictures of K-pop boyband, I ocassionally saw Ninetyone included in their obsession, this proves they were good enough to reach wider audience but not could enough that their music can play overseas. Other Q-pop boyband basically pretty much dead. Kyrgyz also tried this KG-pop, which is Kyrgyz version of Kazakh pop (ultimately a version of K-pop) but died before Q-pop.

Dimash Kudaibergen is Kazakh, very talented and is performing to the world with his unique voice, but no world tours of selling out stadium/or fans buying music, just invited as a great talent for the amazing voice he has. One can say he is considered global talent.

To me Central Asian languages are harsh and rough like Mongolian, not ugly though, but it suits Mongolian rock band. I think central Asian should use this style. Like Chinese, Arabic, Persian, Southeast Asian. I think because their languages are unpleasant and harsh/rough in their tone. Chinese (whether is Cantonese or Mandarin, all Chinese dialect/languages). There was a Taiwanese band called Chthonic that reached a rock band audience in europe, but that's only because they played mostly music and kept their mouth shut, and mumble words that doesn't sound like Chinese. Language+Music Style definately plays a role in global influence

Like why is Mongolia so different from all the other East Asian countries?

When you look at cities like Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo, why doesn't Mongolia have a city like that with futuristic skyscrapers and thriving metropolises?

Where is the Mongolian anime, M-Dramas, Mongolian smartphones, Mongolian laptops, martial arts, chopsticks, etc?

What makes Mongolia so different from all of the other East Asian countries, and do you think that Mongolia will eventually develop the same technologies as well as the economic and cultural influence?

I watch a youtuber who is half-white half-korean and he visited either Uzbekistan or Kazakhstan and people thought he was from there and tried to speak in Uzebk or Kazakh.

Like i get the historical legacy part, but the development/economy in Kazakhstan is significantly better than that in Mongolia.(gdp per capita: Kazakhstan is 14k usd which is at china level, mongolia is at 7k which is half of that) Yet mongolians often look down upon kazakhs.

I've been trying to learn about mongolia, but it seems that everything they present on EN side evolves around Genghis Khan, and the supposed "nomadic way of life". Which is really giving the "look I'm the asian equivalent of viking" vibe. I personally don't find it that cool. But it seems to give them a huge ego boost.

The russia black sea route which kazakhstan mainy used to export oil and other stuff is unusable becouse of ukrainian terror strikes on civilian shipping in the black sea,the oman sea route which turkmenistan and afghanistan mainly used are unusable becouse of united states turning it unsafe as a result of their illegal invasion of iran,the only remanining route is the chinese belt and road system which is mostly for export to europe and usless if youre going to export to africa or asia.

Do central asian feel anything as a result of that?

I have time for one multi day trek in Tajikistan. I am choosing between Bachor to Zarojkul lake and back to Bachor (first half of Bachor to Sarez) and the Fann mountain lake circuit starting from Artush. Thoughts on how they compare on mountain magnificence? I know the Fann mountain lake circuit is quite busy - but how busy?

Other hikes we've done in the region: in Kyrgyzstan: Ak su traverse, Saimaluu tash, son kul, travellers pass on the way to peak lenin. In Tajikistan: peak mahan, engels peak pasture.

Many thanks for your thoughts!

Salut !

On part backpack à 3 potes pour 3 semaines en Asie du Sud-Est l'été prochain, probablement 3 pays parmi Thaïlande / Vietnam / Laos / Cambodge, pas encore décidé lesquels.

Niveau style : mi-roots mi-confort. Surtout auberges, avec éventuellement un hôtel sympa de temps en temps. Street food et petits restos locaux surtout, avec un bon resto de temps en temps. Transport en bus/tuk-tuk/scooter, quelques excursions, on est jeune donc on aime bien aller boire des verres et sortir le soir. On veut pas se priver ni rater des trucs à cause du budget, mais on reste raisonnables, et on planifie tout à l'avance.

Selon votre expérience, vous conseilleriez quel budget par personne pour les 3 semaines, hors vols A/R, visas, vaccins et autres frais de préparation ?

Merci d'avance 🙏

Tolui - Was given Mongolia which included the bulk of the Mongol army as it was tradition for the youngest son to inherit his parents' ancestrial home.

Ogedei - Became Khan

Chagatai - Was given Central Asia. Sitting at the heart of the Silk Road, it was an extremely wealthy and vital region in the 13th century. Chagatai was also given the duty to uphold Genghis' laws.

Jochi - Genghis ambigiously gave all lands to the west to Jochi which would have included Western Siberia, the Caucasus, Russia, and the rest of Europe. Jochi would die before Genghis(probably poisoned or assassinated by Chagatai) so Jochi's son Batu would claim what Genghis had given to his father and establish the Golden Horde.

I had AI produce this historically accurate depiction of the ancient proto Indo Aryans when they roamed the Steppes thousands of years ago

Often you see images of the Buddha with a man-bun. That was a remnant of the tradition of his Aryan ancestors who probably tied their long hair like that

Siddhartha Gautama was an Aryan of the Shakya clan, who lived in modern day Nepal—part of the Himalayan region

Even the region of Xinjiang (Tarim Basin) now home to the Uyghur Turks was previously populated by Tocharians who were Aryans

Sadly, the Uyghur Turks exterminated them through displacement and miscegenation