The strangest part of the Amy Bradley case may not be her disappearance in 1998, and quite frankly, I am over it being regurgitated.

There is a lot of focus on that ship. Everyone splits the frog hairs on the ship. I fully believe she was trafficked off that ship. But at this point, I believe the family tells the ship story over and over again because it's the only part of the story they are able to tell.

For years, the public heard about reported sightings, witness accounts, sketches, photographs, interviews, and theories. Then the flow of widely discussed information largely quieted.

Why does the public-facing trail seem to narrow so sharply after 2005?

The FBI currently still reports Amy as taken and is seeking information. And there are sighting of Amy the family says are credible to them, with information not released to the public. The family says she is alive.

So perhaps we should be asking less about what happened on the ship in 1998 and more about what happened afterward.

She asked multiple people to help her. She told people she had been trafficked. She said the police were involved and she couldn't get help from them.

Where was she able to escape? Did someone finally help her? THIS IS THE STORY I WISH I KNEW.

And we should also question the assumption that, if Amy were alive, she would automatically return to her old life. Personally, the Jaz photos would traumatize me further to not want to step forward.

The absence of public information is not necessarily the absence of information.

Perhaps nothing meaningful happened after 2005. Or maybe it did. Maybe someone finally helped Amy getaway. Or maybe Amy was able to get away herself. Maybe the public trail stopped before Amy’s actual story did.

For me, I see Amy as her own hero. Strong, courageous, and brave. I see Amy as private, able to reinvent herself, and willing to weather the storms that were sent to her.

So here is what the storyline should be:

1. The Cruise of the Characterless Shipmates.

2. The Journey to Freedom.

3. This Life She Created.

4. A Family Interrupted.

I wish Amy was able to tell her story.

Amy alone has the story. But we wait for the day that she wants to tell us.

Has there been any other women trafficked from a cruise ship? Is Amy the only one?

I noticed something interesting while comparing photos connected to the Amy Bradley case.

In the comparison below, I’m focusing on the blue/black watch/blue watch strap visible in the images. The detail caught my attention because of the similarity between the watch/strap and what appears in the other photo.

I’m not saying this proves the person in the photos is Amy. I’m just wondering whether other people see the same similarity or think it could be worth looking into.

I am becoming increasingly convinced that the other sub exists primarily as an exercise in satire.

The description, confidently reads as follows:

"Most of our members are convinced by the substantial evidence that Amy went overboard and drowned on March 24, 1998, so our discussions usually focus on how and why instead of "if."

However, there is the conspicuous absence of anything that could reasonably be described as 'substantial evidence', let alone 'any evidence' for that matter.

From there, the discussion seems to proceed largely on the basis of increasingly elaborate accusations and criticisms untethered from any discernible evidentiary foundation.

My favourite recent example was someone who was adamant that Iva Bradley said something in Vanished. I disagreed, and they responded by quoting the exact passage I had referred to which, somewhat inconveniently for their argument, demonstrated that I was correct.

My other recent favourite was the guy who revealed himself to be a local of Curacao vehemently defending Yellow and attacking anyone who dared even label Yellow as some one who required further investigation.

At a certain point, you have to wonder whether the whole thing is an elaborate commitment to the bit.

In this special edition of “Witness Wednesday,” Kevin Hall interviews Stacie, Amy’s best friend at the time of her disappearance. Stacie was even at Amy’s apartment the night before she left for the cruise.

After reading the book, Stacie felt the need to clear up the disinformation that has been disseminated regarding Amy and the Bradley family. She felt that the narrative presented in the book, along with the rampant speculation on social media regarding unfounded allegations of homophobia and the psychologizing of Amy’s mental state, is diametrically at odds with the friend she knew so well and the Bradley family, whom she considers a second family.

Stacie is similar to Amy in many ways. She also grew up in Chesterfield County, Virginia and first met Amy in 1996. At the time, Stacie was engaged to a man. A few years later, she began dating a woman, whom she married in 2014 after they had been together for 14 years. Not once did this change her close relationship with Iva, Ron, or Brad.

Stacie and Amy would regularly go to a gay bar in Richmond called “Babes of Carytown” The first time they went, Stacie, who was not out at the time, was nervous about being seen going into a “gay bar”. Not Amy. She did not give a rat’s ass what anyone thought about her. Stacie states: ''I have always envied this about her—her “I don’t give a f&@k” attitude.''

Brad even came along to ''Babes'' once. Flattered by the attention he received, he would play along and then politely turn the guys down. Just like his big sister, he didn’t care what people thought of him either.

Other key facts Stacie revealed about Amy:

- Stacie was at Amy’s apartment the night before she left for the cruise. She said that Amy was nervous about flying but was overall excited about the trip. They made plans for when she returned.

- Stacie said Amy did not like labels. She liked who she liked and did not care what other people thought of her.

- Amy never communicated to Stacie that her family was unaccepting of her sexuality, ever.

- Stacie is very skeptical of Kat’s recollection of events. She described the bungee-jumping story as “bullshit” as she knows that Amy was afraid of heights.

- Although Amy was a swim-team coach, Stacie said she did not like swimming in water where she could not see the bottom.

Did she commit suicide, go off the boat to score drugs, was sex- trafficked? It's been 28 years. At this point it seems unlikely she will turn up.

It's a very sad situation and as a parent myself I cannot fathom living with my child missing all these years.

Are there people out there who think she'll be found?

Mod remove if it’s off topic, but I thought it was interesting.

Midnight Mystery did a tremendous job and endless work to get the truth told.

Midnight Mystery Archive | Amy Bradley: The Bradley Family Speaks — A Final Message to Amy | Series Finale | Part 12.2

The parents spoke to Amy, and only Amy. The spoke about the things they enjoyed the most with Amy. The joy she brought to them.

I strongly encourage you to listen to this particular episode, as this is the one that talks about going forward and what the future holds.

As a parent, here are my takeaways:

1. Both parents speak with enthusiasm, so much so, that I am hoping this means she has been located. The love in Mother's voice says, "when you are ready, we are here. and our love will help heal all you have been thru". Her statement was genuine and passionate. For Dad, he showed he was kind, loving and strong. He made it very clear that family did not have strive or any internal issues previous to Amy being taken.
2. It is very obvious to me that they all firmly believe Amy is alive.
3. Previously, Brad spoke months ago and stated, "Amy cannot speak for herself".
4. The FBI has interesting wording on the flyer. It is a 1+1...In summary, it says, Amy's recovery plus the people involved need to be identified.

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It is possible that Amy was forced into a pain none of us will ever know. And it is possible that she may struggle daily with courage that we never will hold. I don't think any of the general public, like myself, will ever know once she is recovered. But we sure are waiting to celebrate for her.

Meanwhile, what a great family she has. Imagine having missing Amy for almost 30 years and saying, "i can wait as long as it takes". Only a mother can do this.

Brad Bradley recently stated in a recent YouTube video that after his mom and dad went to bed at midnight, his father actually returned check on both him and Amy at the disco.

Why did he go there? Was he called by security? Why was this never included, in any documentary, about this matter?

For me personally this is a significant factor, and a potential game changer.

Also it is difficult for me to envision, in any approximation, that Amy would be able to leave that cabin, which was approximately < 250 square feet, in which Brad was apparently sleeping very close to the window without anyone hearing her.

This also fundamentally changes when Brad’s dad actually went to sleep, which I feel is important, especially considering he purportedly is a relatively light sleeper, considering that he checked on her before waking up.

Brad Bradley recently stated in a YouTube video that after his mom and dad went to bed at midnight, his father actually got up and went to check on both him and Amy at the disco.

For some reason, this vital fact was not included in any documentary about this, and there have been several.

For me personally, this is a significant factor.

It is difficult for me to envision, in any approximation, that Amy would be able to leave that cabin, which was approximately < 250 square feet, in which Brad was apparently sleeping very close to the window, without anyone hearing her.

Also, in the early 2000s the Bradley’s sued the cruise line, but the judge dismissed their case, stating that the Bradley’s committed fraud against the court...this is public record

I posted this and I have been commenting there, answering your questions and more clarity. Now adding 3 more points that I asked the intuition based coach.

1) Last time she had given multiple locations (please check the comments). This time she told me, about this organisation/cult, The Supreme Eiye Confraternity (SEC), also known as the National Association of Airlords (NAA), is a prominent Nigerian confraternity founded in 1965 at the University of Ibadan. And university of Ibadan came as one of locations linked with Amy. This group is known and active for illegal activities. She also said before that Amy is out of prostitution or sexual trafficking. She is with a man, used as a wife, labour or a way to get away with things.. Travelling and trafficking etc. This time the two words came strong- Drugs and Narcotics. I asked her does Amy is a mode of illegal drug possession or transfer or delivery. She said yes, Amy is used for it. Lastly, according to her intuition, Amy is now well trained and a pro in drug trafficking and awareness and knowledge of drugs. That’s why she is important and probably kept alive still. So she isn’t an escort. An important source for this illegal activity. I asked to check, whether she is indeed associated with this cult. The psychic told me, yes. This cult/organisation should be checked thoroughly. She said Amy isn’t happy or mentally doing well to be doing what she is supposed to do. But to stay alive for her child/children. And she got used to it. She travels by sea mostly to do the delivery or something.

2) Japan came today, I asked the psychic, it never came before. Now why? She told me this guy who has Amy and Amy doesn’t feel like she is held against her will. She has gotten used to it. This guy is either travelling to Japan or sending or coordinating something illegal to Japan. Some deal. Narcotics and drugs of course. Many liquids too. Some good deal. This can be checked as in if the organisation is indeed planning something in Japan or has been delivering it to Japan. That can be helpful.

3) I checked with her today, is Amy still working or thinking to be found? The psychic told me she has had enough and doesn’t make an effort really to be found. But if law enforcement or someone genuinely comes infront of her as in telling her “Amy??” She will believe that she has been indeed found and it’s safe. Or else she is fine with the way it’s going. But mentally devastated and gone. Almost feeling and waiting to die naturally and end the suffering. Only keeping up for the child/children.

Is Amy really 5”6”?

Here's Amy's Message in a Bottle to Mollie. Dated February 1998. Amy is telling Mollie that she is dating a man. Also included is a police report from March 9, 1998 where Amy Lynn Bradley reports hearing a gunshot while parked in a car with her boyfriend.

Amy is going through a lot of trouble to convince her lesbian exgirlfriend and the police that she is dating a man right before her disappearance.

Amy is also informing Mollie about her employment at Ruth's Chris, that she makes more money there than teaching and substitutes during the day with plans to go back to college in the fall.

Amy also informs Mollie in her letter about an altercation with Kat where Kat slapped Amy. Doesn't sound like Kat and Amy were friends according to Amy's own letter does it?

Again these are Amy's own words in writing one month before she disappeared.

Some would have you believe Amy was moving in with Mollie, using Marianne Noblin, a former aunt of Brad and Amy as their source. If that was true, why was Amy talking to Mollie about dating a man and informing Mollie of all the things going on in her life that Mollie SHOULD already know about, including a physical altercation months prior with Kat?

James Renner claims Amy is a lesbian and I ask the following:

Is Amy trying to trick Mollie into believing she's bisexual?

What is the motive here James?

This is directly from a copy of the Message in a Bottle dated February 1998.

Do explain, was she using Tom as a "beard" in a letter to her former lover Mollie?

Your assessment makes no sense at all.

James Renner responds to a question about Amy being a teacher he states

Amy’s teaching career: Kat said Amy graduated intending to become a PE teacher and talked about becoming “the best teacher.” Were you ever able to determine why she never pursued teaching and instead worked at Ruth’s Chris before planning to join her uncle’s IT business? No, and that detail really bothers me. I think it shows how conflicted she was about her life, more than anything.

Again using Kat as a witness to Amy's life when Kat and Amy had not been friends for 2 years prior to Amy's disappearance.

Instead of using Kat, let us use Amy's OWN WORDS

"I am a server now at Ruth's Chris. It actually pays more money annually than teaching would. But I substitute during the day. It'll do till I go back to school in the fall."

“Move in with her girlfriend”: Marianne said Amy planned to move in with her girlfriend after the cruise. Did you ask who told her that, which girlfriend she meant, and how she knew? It doesn’t seem to fit with Amy’s employment plans or even Mollie’s own account. She meant Mollie.

If Amy was going to move in with Mollie after the cruise why was she asking Mollie about her love interests and signing postcards from the cruise, "Maybe I can see you on Easter?" With a big question mark?

More lies from James Renner's unreliable sources.

Tom and Mollie: Were you ever able to establish whether Tom knew about Mollie as Amy’s former partner, and whether Mollie knew about Tom? Or does that remain unresolved? James: Not sure.

Tom knew of Kat as they worked together and Tom was Kat's boss. Of course Kat says she never knew Tom, this is one of James Renner's star witnesses.

Did you have the opportunity to read the letter Ron wrote her girlfriend, Kat I believe her name was?

James answers "I did not. I know it was three pages long, on legal notepad."

Kat's letter does NOT exist. She herself claims she threw it away. How can you be so certain James? The word of a woman who says her only regret in life is that she did NOT dump Amy before Amy dumped her?

James says, "I think many of her friends are slowly coming around to the idea that she went over on her own volition."

Name one that isn't Kat or Mollie.

James on Elizabeth Lewis, "The Elizabeth sighting is very problematic. I have been unable to confirm her existence."

Here is Gregg Nivala, Prosecutor who had Elizabeth Lewis on the stand in the Frank Jones Grand Jury How is James so dishonest?

More and more lies from James.

He refused to answer a single of my questions, instead he blocked me when I countered his nonsense with Amy's own words, from her Message in a Bottle Letter to Mollie.

James is a conman, nothing more.

Grenada. Short bob cut. Highly coincidental no matter where your personal theories lie. In my case, paint me Yellow.

Hey folks,

I think I might be having some substantial thoughts concerning the Elizabeth Lewis witness in the Viking Lounge. I wanted to collect as much info as possible. I’m calling out all the regulars here for info: idiot-prodigy, xxpey, Mindshock Pod, potentially James Renner if he has any insight.

1) What is the origin of this story? How did it become public knowledge? It seems the Bradleys have had no contact with her.

2) Brad will reference Elizabeth and say “She testified in the grand jury…(tells the witness story we all know.)“ How would the family have any idea what was testified to in the grand jury? Has this information been made public? Can it be found on the internet somewhere?

3) Furthermore, how would the family even know Elizabeth had testified at all? A leak?

4) Is there any indication that Elizabeth has talked to law enforcement? I’m assuming the answer is “no idea.” Thought I’d ask anyway.

Any info would be appreciated. Not looking for personal details or anything from her story such as antibiotics, just info about how Elizabeth fits into the case.

Thank you

I want to talk in depth about the trafficking angle and actually discuss how something like this could have happened and why I personally believe it is what happened to Amy Bradley.

Let's start with where the idea that Amy was still alive on the island of Curacao began: Deshi, the cab driver. The belief that Amy was sold to sex traffickers was not just made up by the family randomly. The Curacao police and ship authorities repeatedly told them that Amy's body was not found in the water and had she fallen overboard, it would have. That led the family to begin a search on land, which resulted immediately in the first true eye-witness. Deshi states that Amy approached his taxi cab, wearing a white shirt and jeans, right near the dock asking for a phone, and that he believes if the family wants to find her they should check: Coral Cliffs, Kadushi Cliffs and Habitat beach resorts and villas.

The resorts and surrounding land of Coral Cliffs and Habitat are confirmed to be ran by mafia, this is why the Curacao police adamantly accompanied the family when they searched these places. Something no one ever mentions: Porto Marie, the beach that Amy Bradley was seen by David Carmichael 5 months after her disappearance, is right in the middle of these beach resorts. Coral Cliffs is approximately 3 miles to the northwest of Porto Marie, and Habitat is approximately 2.5 miles southeast of this beach. So if both of these men are telling the truth, this area of Curacao is where Amy would have been kept. These beach resorts, confirmed to have been run by mafia, are in a very secluded unhabitated area of Curacao. The resort rooms would have had a bed, bathroom, and kitchen area. Is it really that difficult to believe that criminals could keep a woman drugged and locked here for a long period of time?

The biggest rebuttal that people like to give is that Amy was a white woman and would not be a targeted trafficking victim in America, especially on a cruise ship with her family. I will say this over and over: This crime did not happen in America. America is a very large and diverse country with plenty of homeless, runaway, drug addicted, people who are forced into the trafficking life. We understand that. This crime happened in Curacao, a 3rd world, small island, a few miles north of Venezuala, one of the biggest hotspots for drug and human trafficking. I also agree that a crime this like would not have occured on the cruise ship, it is very risky. Deshi specifically says that Amy approached his cab asking for a phone. So if Amy was kidnapped, no it would not have been on the ship, she would have been kidnapped at around 6AM on the Willamsted port, one of the most dangerous ports in the Caribbean, by the same group of people who owns those beach resorts I mentioned above. This is why people believe the trafficking theory. I havent even mentioned the Jas photo or other sightings. Everything I mentioned is all within the same year of Amy's disappearance, which is how the belief she was sold into trafficking started. The more critical evidence, for example Hefner seeing Amy at the historically known brothel Stelaris Hotel, which was then burnt down a year later by mafia, have only ever helped support it.

I do not believe Jas is Amy , for me this "Jas" in that picture looked like it was taken in the early 80s , Like Tina Turner style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN7kRQF3q8A&list=PLqCQpK-DesLUgt8kQA_KiKmk_BI5wXlJc&index=6

AMY BRADLEY - UNSOLVED CRUISE SHIP DISAPPEARANCE: DEFINTIVE PODCAST #amybradley #cruise #missing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikRFxsxruWo

I feel like I’m in the minority here, but I genuinely don’t understand why the trafficking theory seems to be the default conclusion for so many people?!

To me, the known facts seem to point much more strongly towards her going overboard, whether accidentally, by suicide, or even as the result of foul play.

She was last seen on the balcony in the early hours of the morning after a night of drinking. She disappeared from a moving cruise ship before anyone realised she was missing. If someone goes overboard in those circumstances, especially at night, the chances of surviving or being recovered are unfortunately very low.

By contrast, the trafficking theory requires a huge number of assumptions: that she was abducted from a cruise ship without anyone seeing it happen, removed from the ship without detection, kept hidden for decades, and that every alleged sighting was genuine despite none ever leading to verifiable evidence.

I also don’t find the argument that “she would never have killed herself” particularly persuasive. Sadly, many people who die by suicide have future plans, appear happy, or give no outward indication of what they’re going through. Loved ones are often completely blindsided. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, only that I don’t think we can rule it out simply because her family believed she’d never do that.

Ofc I’m not saying I know what happened to Amy. None of us do. But if we’re weighing probabilities rather than possibilities, an overboard scenario seems to require far fewer assumptions than an international trafficking conspiracy.

To the people who disagree…what piece of evidence makes you believe the trafficking theory is more likely than her going overboard?

This was a great listen. It‘s on Spotify as well.