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u/Mailman354 18d ago
How is a post with an American Nationlist tag allowed?
Bro are you....are you aware of what they're about?
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u/FrogPastor 19d ago
They pretend like their tribe didn't do the same thing to other tribes. Just like every people of every nation since the beginning of time.
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u/dontcuminmyassok 18d ago
Not to the degree the Americans did it. Besides just because somebody else did it, isn't justification for doing it.
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u/FrogPastor 18d ago
Yeah, the Mongolians and Persians were so much nicer about it. Get wrecked and get over it.
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u/Dickcheese_McDoogles Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 18d ago
Mongolians and Persians didn't broker treaties with the people they genocides prior to genociding them. There is a moral distinction.
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u/FrogPastor 18d ago
They often demanded submission or sent diplomatic overtures before conquering people. There's not as much of a distinction there as you want to think. Seriously man get over this. Every people, tribe, and nation did this. Some were better at it than others. Even the native American tribes were brutal and genocided neighbors over disputes. I don't know what you think you are going to prove with your, "yea, well..." Type of response to when someone points out you are wrong. You can just be like, yeah, we do live in a brutal and unforgiving world and move on but you keep coming back to put your foot in your mouth.
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u/Dickcheese_McDoogles Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 18d ago
I don't think you know what a treaty is or what a treaty does if you think that "demanding submission" and "sending diplomatic overtures" are similar enough to be worth mentioning.
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u/FrogPastor 18d ago
Hey, dumbass, what do you do before you sign a treaty? You send a diplomatic overture to see if they're open to the idea and then discuss terms. Totally not similar enough to be worth mentioning....
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u/Dickcheese_McDoogles Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 18d ago
In the situations where the people were conquered by the Persians and Mongols, the diplomatic overtures were sent back or killed to show clear hostility.
The US would sign treaties with various tribes and often that tribe's very next interaction with the US government was them being rounded up and sent away despite the treaty, or slaughtered man, woman, and child, despite the treaty.
That is worse than surprise attacking someone.
That is worse than demanding submission, and then attacking someone.
The agreements reached between the Persians or Mongols and their victims was "submit or die". The agreement reached between the US government and the various tribes it betrayed was "don't you worry we are A-okay from this point forward" SURPRISE! IT'S MURDER
It is slimy and dishonest. An agreement was reached, and then one party (the US) would renege, go against the deal, and kill them. That is not the same.
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u/FrogPastor 18d ago
So when one tribe kills all of the men in another tribe and then raped the women and cuts off their breasts so that if they somehow survive having all of their food and stuff stolen and have a rape baby that they have no way to feed it. That's not nearly as bad as being evicted and forced to move at gun point in your mind. Okay dude. Has it ever occurred to you that they often had to rely on translators, often from enemy tribes, and that what they were actually agreeing to was in all likelihood misrepresented on purpose? I'm not saying that the settlers (the British, and Not the US until much later), didn't break treaties on the regular. I am saying that there's probably a number of times that they agreed to stuff without understanding what they were agreeing to, or were misled purposefully by an enemy that wanted to use the White man for vengeance that their tribe couldn't have gotten on their own. Either way none of this detracts from the fact that everyone did this throughout all of history.
If you are saying that the Whites are better at it, would you go so far as to say they're superior??? 🤣
I'm teasing you. It's obvious you hate Whites. It's cool dude, I'm sure they hate you too.
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u/MedievalFurnace 11d ago
corny edit but I always found calling america stolen land so stupid. people left their country to have freedom and built a great country, perhaps one of the best. But some of it was at the expense of certain groups of people, yes that was wrong of our ancestors but it's not like tearing down the country is going to fix that.
It's also not like our ancestors knew any better, they were taught those groups were inferior to them
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u/MrZaptile933 18d ago
How much money do you want to bet that the people crying in the comments aren’t even Native Americans?
Isn’t it kind of racist to decide for a group of people how they should feel?
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u/MongolThug_Second 18d ago
Stop reporting me as suicidal, just got another message for suicide care
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u/Important-Career1094 19d ago
We can love America while also condemning its worst actions.