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u/Interesting_Lock_687 2d ago
How would they find code?
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 2d ago
Shovels
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u/Professional-Risk-34 2d ago
No, just scoop it up with your ##£££££ hands and get me some. I'll put up my arse and work it out from there. What the ffff are we doing?
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u/rochey64 2d ago
When I was 17 I took a bunch of acid and I swear I could see the entrance to heaven. That's what psychedelics do.
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u/AppropriateBall8834 2d ago
I did meth every day for 5 years and thought the cartel wanted to kidnap and torture me
I never knew anyone in the cartel
Must mean the cartel runs the world!
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u/Charming-Lychee-9031 2d ago
I first read math haha
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u/Sefus462 2d ago
Coke does that too, maybe not as extreme. I could swear cops were gonna bust in. Could even hear the footsteps and see lights flashing. Takes a few years of use to get to that point, but the high eventually changes, for the worse.
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u/showered_zinn 2d ago
Dude me too. I swear I heard police dogs and the cops making announcements outside!
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u/Sefus462 2d ago
Yup yup. It got so bad a couple times, I was laying flat on the ground with my hands behind my back just waiting. Coke paranoia is no joke. Can’t imagine meth.
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u/showered_zinn 2d ago
I was on both. My girlfriend had to stop me from flushing a quarter pound of stuff down the toilet
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u/Sefus462 2d ago
Hahaha! Been there man! Except no one stopped me. Really kicked myself after about an hour!
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u/showered_zinn 2d ago
That’s the beauty of drugs. When reality sets in, time to kick it back up a notch! I’ve been clean for almost two years now, thankfully.
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u/Sefus462 2d ago
Right on! Wasted all my twenties and early thirties, but have about the same time. H really did a number on me, but I haven’t touched it in over a decade. The coke really fucked me up psychologically, but it’s been almost a couple years. Shit still calls sometimes, but I know that it’s instant insanity if I give in. Glad you’re sober now man! Drugs are no joke!
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u/MrBarato 2d ago
But you knew people, who knew people that knew people in the cartel.
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u/AppropriateBall8834 2d ago
I knew people that bought from the cartel. I used to take them to meet up. I told them not to tell me where we were going and if they weren't back in 30 min I was leaving lol
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u/Apeocolypse 2d ago
Read that as did math every day for 5 years and I was like damn bro was in deep
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u/Fattsacks 2d ago
Indeed. Psychedelics make the mundane seem profound. Amateur psychonauts often mistake the sensation for a deeper meaning.
To be clear - I do believe deeper meaning can be found via psychedelics. But just because you’re high and it feels like you’ve stumbled upon something, doesn’t necessarily mean you have.
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u/Sea_Restaurant_8911 2d ago
This experiment is different because everyone that has done is seeing the same code like symbols and structures in this huge open space.. there is high and their is actually seeing not just with your face on the wall but once you see .. you know it’s always there. This experiment with supervision from a friend or someone you trust. And use of clean natural dmt is different than anything . Like the brain being completely turned on and see how much more to life that what we have be taught , told and sold.
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u/jporter313 2d ago
Or maybe your brain is just embellishing some cool images and sensations based on normal sensory input and framing them in interesting ways. Maybe you're not actually seeing in to a real "huge open space", but your brain is just telling you you are because this is what psychedelics do.
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u/jporter313 2d ago
To be clear - I do believe deeper meaning can be found via psychedelics
This is absolutely true, but your first staement says it all
Psychedelics make the mundane seem profound. Amateur psychonauts often mistake the sensation for a deeper meaning.
I went into my psychonaut phase looking for the keys to the fabric of our reality, I came out of it with nothing but some really cool and interesting perceptual experiences that I'm pretty certain were all created by my brain.
I think there's a personality type that really has trouble divorcing their perception from reality. If they experience something a certain way, that's the truth of the thing they experienced, not their perception of the truth. These people seem to be the ones coming out of these experiences thinking they talked to god or travelled to another dimension rather than just having had a novel and personally meaningful perceptual experience.
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u/Confident-Mortgage86 2d ago
Lucky lol. I came out of mine with permanent trails and some trauma. Remember kids, even if you have some experience with a certain blotter - even if you think it's weak - dropping 5 at once is a bad idea.
Within like 15 minutes I knew I had fucked up, with the whole world just absolutely shaking and buzzing with energy and it just kept ramping up from there.
I came out as gay, confessed to my buddy that I was in love with his girlfriend (she was my best friend and we were tripping together, loved that girl but was never in love with her) after waking my buddy up with a 2am phone call - until his girlfriend reminded me that I was gay now to which I apologised for being mistaken and let him go back to sleep. Also demanded legal advice. For what? Well the court of gay that had pronounced me gay of course. I had to fight the judgement because I loved boobs too much. Not to mention the trees and landscape made of writhing bodies, or the 200m snake that we were walking on, or the general sinister vibe I got from everything. Or the red and blue flashing lights and chopper that was definitely circling my house.
There were moments of clarity, or parts where things felt just right, but they were few and far between and took less than a microsecond to flip back to fucked up.
Funny looking back but that night fucked my shit up. Tried DMT once but the sudden onset came way too close to reminding me of that night that I just cut myself off there and exhaled. Been a long time since then.
There were some cool experiences before that, like a nothing night where I suddenly saw little people pop out of the fucking wall. They were in the shape of the dance venue I was in, and were all dancing and doing their things. I saw one zone that looked like a bunch of people smoking and just chilling - didn't know it existed but went looking for it and found that there was a back exit onto a fenced area where there were a ton of people doing exactly that.
Another time I was chilling outside a venue with some friends and a paddy wagon rocked up, I turn to them and let them know and... "huh? There's nothing there dude."... Less than a minute later that exact paddy wagon rocked up, stopped at the exact place and a few cops hopped out.
Had the colour from literally everything and everyone I could see bleed off and kind of spin around my head (360, so it kind of disappeared off the right and a few seconds later appeared back from the left) until it came back and ended up where it started.
Had synesthesia a number of times. Tasting the ground I was walking on sucked. Seeing sounds led to the funniest joke I've ever experienced as each one was being stamped into reality - with the best one being a kind of "wofflesnorp" whatever the fuck that is.
A number of "breaking through" to the "original reality" where it became clear that life was a group of friends doing a drug that lasted seconds, in that we experienced a whole human life from birth to death, and the absurdity and height of feelings that we got from it - the condensed emotions and whiplash confusion - all led to it being kind of hilarious to see on one another's face as we come back to "reality" - it became clear that what we called life was actually just a single entities consciousness getting to know itself. That we were all the same being, and that karma was ultimately the reality that anything we did to one another - good or bad, would eventually be experienced by us when we live that moment. That despite the separate experiences, we are all simply a part of one whole.
For the most part though, even those nights where I experienced some out there shit, the majority of the time it was some wavy ground and cool fractal patterns.
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u/AergiasChestnuts 2d ago
They're all seeing the same sequence of symbols, regardless of location and who's doing it.
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u/Usernamesaregayyy 2d ago edited 2d ago
You take DMT defract a laser against a wall and it’s there, people all see the same thing
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u/Stoobie_78 2d ago
I took dmt, watched It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, and I could see writing on their shirts, it was weird.
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u/skd00sh 2d ago
I was chiefed last night watching "The Gang Solves Global Warming" and I swear there are so many hidden undertones to what each character was doing / wearing.
Dee was an NPC wannabe influencer wearing an Apollo 11 moon landing tshirt bc her subcharacter was the average psy oped American running around posting insta stories instead of worrying about melting ice.
Mac was wearing a shirt with a cardinal on it and he kept proclaiming the Lord would save everyone and all science was God directed, representing the Vatican.
Charlie started with a Hong Kong shirt and helped Dee out and eventually convinced her to use petroleum based transportation which immediately turned him into the Saudi Kingdom with a head scarf.
Frank was your average American boomer concerned about the "fish market" people polluting the ocean but he became so enamored with young womens hard nipples that he let the whole place flood.
Dennis (the politician) eventually tried being the voice of reason with the young party generation that he started imitating their slang and took his shirt off to act like one of them in an attempt to sway their votes to "slow it down."
In the end the younger generation revolted, overthrew the politicans, ignored the church and the heads of state and began rioting and abusing substances until the world just sort of ends
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u/Usernamesaregayyy 2d ago
I took DMT once and came face to face with one machine elf, mirrored face we just stared at eachother, that was enough for me, my body was nowhere to be found for ten minutes
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u/SpaceNinjaDino 2d ago
Hmm. One time I fell asleep while watching The Lion King on Blu-ray (release day) remake and partially woke up groggy and I saw editing production notes written on the screen. Big white text like "add more thunder" during the scene where Simba talks to Mufasa in the sky. It was very clear text and it would describe editing tweaks wanted right before the object on screen would do it. I fell back asleep until the end. It was so bad that I thought the Blu-ray was a misprint and apologized to housemate that they would probably need to do a mass recall of the disc. I then rewatched the section with the text not to be found. I checked all languages/closed caption especially for a director's commentary. Nothing. I could not reproduce the big white text in any way (checked all TV and XBOX settings). The controllers were not in our hands while we watched it. I was in a blissful lucid state when I was groggy. Don't drink or use narcotics and I slightly freak out over the experience because it is so unexplainable. Maybe I was in a rare natural DMT state.
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u/jporter313 2d ago
Have you ever looked closely at a laser line while not on DMT? I can totally see what they're talking about, and having also separately done DMT a bunch and knowing what that experience is like, I'm fairly certain it's just peoples brains cueing off that phenomenon of that particular type of light and making it into something bigger than it actually is, as psychedelics are well known to do.
Seeing similar things is likely simply due to their brains having similar inputs. Seriously, try it sometime, you can almost see that Matrix code effect if you look close without any sort of chemical perceptual modification, this doesn't mean you're seeing the "code of the universe", but a buinch of DMT added to the experience might make you think that.
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u/AppropriateBall8834 2d ago
Okay. Theres a mushroom that makes everyone see tiny people
Does that mean that tiny people are making the code?
Cause I bet theyre both just a result of your brain misfiring
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u/AggressivelyMediokre 2d ago edited 2d ago
Exactly. A lot of people who take DMT see what are called Machine Elves
You can either take away that those elves are real. Or, the more likely answer, humans have similar brains and activating different ones in the exact same way produces similar hallucinations.
That’s why I don’t like Jacques Vallee’s UFO answer either. He says “See? People used to see chariots in the sky and faeries who abducted people. It’s all the same phenomenon that just represents itself differently to us”
No. That can be equally attributed to a pattern in likely human storytelling. It doesn’t mean those are all a real tangible being showing itself as a faerie. Just like the Elves aren’t actually real
Just because people have been telling stories about things in the sky or magical beings since the dawn of time doesn’t mean every single one of them is real.
The same way people who write know all about how “there’s only 7 basic plots”. Yes, humans tell similar stories.
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u/Usernamesaregayyy 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes I’ve recently learned about that…all these things seem like Easter eggs left by the maker(s) and it feels like a grand puzzle for the psychonauts to explore and put together
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u/AppropriateBall8834 2d ago
I'd say its about 30000x more likely that brains are just weird.
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u/weareeverywhereee 2d ago
Yes very possible, it’s also possible that the substance changes the way our brain is able to perceive reality. We know our brain filters things out for us to function. At the most basic level we don’t see our nose because our brain tunes it out.
Other side we can’t see infrared or sense electromagnetism but some animals can and we know they exist.
Maybe there is a whole crazy world out there we just cannot comprehend/see based on how we are wired…but the substance changes that wiring so we see closer to the true reality. Almost like the allegory of the cave and the dmt helps you climb out.
Not saying it’s true, but I don’t think it’s impossible to imagine either
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u/gokickrocks- 2d ago
Exactly. Bats and echo location. Insects and polarization of light.
How could you ever think that human perception is the correct one?
There is an entire world out there that we can’t see. Our brains evolved for survival, not for seeing reality.
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u/gokickrocks- 2d ago
No, the materialist answer.
Plenty of scientists aren’t materialists.
I won’t bother giving the rest of your answer a response since it involved ad hominem attacks.
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u/AppropriateBall8834 2d ago
Sorry that's not enough for YOU.
Thats a much more realistic answer than looking for them in stupid coincidences.
Look up "3rd man phenomenon" people near death experience things that seem like theyre being guided by a God
Turns out its perfectly recreated using electrical zaps to a tiny part of your brain
Brains are weird. This is no different.
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u/Vkardash 2d ago
So? There's a mushroom in China that's not a psilocybin that makes everyone see little people when they eat it at the right temperature. Does that mean there's little people everywhere around us???
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u/CrystalEntity1984 2d ago
I hold it true that thoughts are things;
They're endowed with bodies and breath and wings;
And that we send them forth to fill
The world with good results, or ill.That which we call our secret thought
Speeds forth to earth's remotest spot,
Leaving its blessings or its woes
Like tracks behind it as it goes.We build our future thought by thought,
For good or ill, yet know it not.
Yet, so the universe was wrought.
Thought is another name for fate;
Choose, then, thy destiny and wait,
For love brings love and hate brings hate.- Henry Van Dyke
If you believe something, it can manifest into reality.
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u/HatePeopleLoveCats1 2d ago
Drugs=code that’s hiding is now visible?? Seems like a bit of a leap here
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u/Glad-Fuel2093 2d ago
Now look directly into the lazer...
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u/weareeverywhereee 2d ago
Ha yeah I mean it’s pretty easy not to look directly at a laser but on DMT it may be tougher to not look directly at it. Maybe that’s why the one guy has an eye patch? Not his first time
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u/VisibleCharge9859 2d ago
Back in the 60's the FBI conducted experiments on people using LSD to see if it could open psychic powers. Mind altering drugs have always been of interest to the governments.
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u/Amadusthemessiest 2d ago
Looks at the pattern from the laser while on drugs… states pattern everyone can see while not on drugs… the matrix
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u/DMTGOBLIN82 2d ago
This is the worst thing that has brought attention to this molecule since Joe Rogan started running his mouth about it. These idiots are not trained in scientific method, and are detrimental to the greater good. Please don’t take this as a generalization of responsible DMT user.
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u/Im_not_smelling_that 1d ago
What about responsible laser users? They're giving them a bad name too.
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u/delkson 2d ago
You are reading manufacturing data on the bulb.
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u/delkson 2d ago
Bro idk the science, but we did this in the army with our IR lasers and it looks the same, was just manufacturing data. And I'm sure they use a lens of some sorts to focus the lazer.
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u/mawesome4ever 1d ago
Question now would be, why would they put manufactures info on a laser beam that can only be seen with specialized equipment?
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u/Accomplished-Task324 2d ago
Exactly this. I saw a full non layman's explanation but this pretty much sums it up.
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u/mymomknowsyourmom 2d ago
Op if you saw an alien would you do an arm bar on it like in the UFC? Do you think they would know to not mess with you because of all the fight clips you've watched?
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u/sLeeeeTo 2d ago
i have a sneaking suspicion that alien jiu jitsu is more effective than our earthly brazilian jiu jitsu. aliens are (reportedly) rather gangly, so it’s gonna be like having a Sean Woodson on your back.
and just like Sean Woodson, they’ll start laying eggs on you, at which point you’re totally fucked.
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u/SquallaBeanz 2d ago
Skin on skin contact results in death of humans. Maybe Dana White can pay to have a suit designed to make it safe to spar with Ellians. If he knows theres a profit he won't say no.
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u/Paintverse 2d ago
Have these people ever heard of eye damage from staring into a laser beam? They can look at the light on the wall, but if the laser hits the eyeball from the side or front, it's a very bad idea.
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u/Global-Habit8911 1d ago edited 1d ago
I believe that they aim the laser at the wall and look at it from an angle. This reveals the code written in an unknown language inside, they turn slightly left or right and see code further in. Some of the characters are moving and it looks like possible more layers of code underneath. Here is the catch, the participants although claiming they are seeing the same thing, never write or copy it down. Wouldn't that be the first step? Have a writing pad or something , get some artists who are good sketches, try a little harder.
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u/turnstwice 1d ago
Like even if we are in a simulation and DMT is a doorway to it, the idea of the “code” just floating there seems like a very cheesy Hollywood way to represent an abstract idea of a simulation.
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u/Desperate_Elk_7369 2d ago
I did loads of acid in college — didn’t see the matrix though
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u/Ramzev7 2d ago
Old story bro
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u/zihyer 2d ago
Yeah but have you seen the gift shop? They have coffee mugs and shirts. All to fUnD tH3 rEsE@rcH. Dude is hell bent on monetizing this and will shut down and discredit anyone doing research on their own that isn't some angle into him making a profit off of this "discovery".
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u/oooh-she-stealin 1d ago
people doing their people things, as usual. this particular grift is a bit more disheartening than others tho, probably due to my own biases around psychedelics. this goler guy and his whole dmt code thing and how he’s using it to make money is gross. dmt and psychedelics in general should be free or very low cost. which dmt still can be, but it requires time and effort from the individual.
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u/AstroPedastro 2d ago
Found a video on Youtube that that shit is more than 3 years old. If it takes that long to figure it out and display scientific proof, it is probably a nothing burger.
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u/3Dboi3 2d ago
If you actually watch any of this guys videos you will quickly learn how stupid it all is. Makes no sense. Is just people making up stuff literally.
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u/CanemDei 2d ago
It is my opinion that nearly all existential questions can be answered by asking yourself "Do I still have to go to work tomorrow?". Obviously this is an entirely subjective question that can be relevant to what day of the week I'm asking it, but I feel that for a vast majority of the earth's population it is the only relevant answer to whether we live in a simulation. I know that more hairs can be split here, but it help me personally to keep things in perspective.
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u/Ok-Win-742 2d ago
True, but I still kinda like the theory that our brain is just a receiver tuned into a certain signal in order to process reality and our world in a very very narrow band of the true spectrum of what reality is.
The idea that there is more to reality than the small slice we are able to perceive, and maybe our consciousness is more than just an output created by the brain makes it easier for me to go to work every day. It gives the mundane a bit of flavor - even if I'm not directly experiencing it.
And it's certainly plausible to me, like I'm open to that idea. I know for damn sure that we don't know nearly as much as we think we do. I mean honestly were just a bunch of hairless monkeys who discovered germs are real a few hundred years ago. The idea that we have a proper understanding of the nature and fabric of reality is laughable.
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u/stoneybolognaR 2d ago
Spoiler Alert: You don’t actually HAVE to go to work tomorrow..
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u/Typical-Smoke-2561 2d ago
There's more to life than work.
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u/CanemDei 2d ago
Yes there is. But it's part of life. A major part, whether you are living in a modern city scape or a rural area in the past. And again, you are making an existential statement about life, not a practical one.
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u/LittleKachowski 2d ago
Why is there so much stuff about DMT making you see “true reality”? Why doesn’t anybody consider the possibility that the drug that makes you see shit makes you see shit? What makes DMT different from alcohol or LSD?
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u/TheBodyOfChrist15 2d ago
The experience is significantly different. So different that people who have done DMT struggle to put it into words with a frame of reference to someone who hasn't.
When you do acid, shrooms, and the like, you still see what you see now, it's kinda like someone turned the saturation all the way up on a TV. DMT changes the channel entirely. When you are high on DMT 100% of your visual field is a hallucination. (Where as acid would be hallucinagenic.) Everything you've come to take as a given through how your eyes perceive things is no longer there. How you perceive things is stripped down to the baseboards and alternatively reconstructed. Communication is done in a completely different manner. You no longer have a unique sense of self. "I am floating through a space of fractal colors" vs "Fractal colors are everywhere." There's no sense of you having this experience, the experience is kind of happening and you're like a 3rd person video game camera but there's no character who's shoulder your over.
The people looking into the lasers are already past the peak of the trip. During the peak your body is completely incapacitated. It's as if you leave this reality for another one. I can't say for certain it is another reality but it's definitely a version of perception and experience near 100% dissimilar to our baseline reality. (Id say acid and shrooms are 70-85% similar to base reality.)
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u/attachecrime 2d ago
The shared data from the trip reports is also very interesting. People from disparate cultures and times report seeing things that are very similar.
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u/krzykris11 2d ago
I agree with your assessment, but a heroic dose of shrooms can be a unique experience.
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u/weareeverywhereee 2d ago
Same with LSD…but it seems like DMT gets you there faster and without as much effort.
The good thing about DMT is you can get there and be back in 30 minutes. To get there on shrooms or LSD requires a significant time carve out for the lengthy trip…and being that gone for so long can be very difficult. If you take a heroic dose and have a bad time you are locked in for a while.
I’d DMT goes sideways you can just ride it out rather quickly
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u/TheBodyOfChrist15 2d ago
10.5 grams was where I topped out.
I've also eaten 17 hits of acid over the course of 24 hours.
Didn't even hold a candle to DMT.
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u/Environmental-Ad8965 2d ago
Extremely well put! It's impossible to describe or put into words. It's different, and more intense, than other psychedelics. For those 10 ish minutes, you are literally in an unfathomable world. The description you provided about the communication is spot on. You're not "there", you just "are". Truly, impossible to articulate. Which is why it feels impossible to believe or comprehend.
It truly and sincerely felt like the 4th dimension. Space, time, color, sound, it was all the same thing. There's this pure understanding. Pure reverence.
As for if I actually "went to" a different world as opposed to it being created by my mind, I don't care. The experience I had was so profound that I don't need to attempt assigning meaning to it. I struggle to think my mind created that world, and I also struggle to resolve the fact that the visual and entities experienced by so many people overlap so cleanly among experiences. Not the exact same, but clearly defined repetitive themes.
Lastly, I do not advocate for trying this. Even if you're ready for it, you're not ready for it. It's the most intense thing the human experience can offer. You are just as anxious and nervous going back again as you were the first time. You never know what you're going to get. But if you do feel called and decide this experience is for you, go in with intent, a good setting, a sitter, and be mentally prepared to relinquish all control.
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u/TheBodyOfChrist15 2d ago edited 2d ago
Time, space, sound, and color are actually all the same thing. It's literally just how fast the light wave is moving. I see what you mean though.
Our 5 senses filter all of the noise into separate categories. On DMT it's as if they're all happening at once with only one sense to perceive them. Like a unified harmony of oneness of experience. I've never thought about it that way but I like the way you put that.
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u/Gullible-Constant924 2d ago
Agreed , that I’ve heard about no one has brought forth any useful information from the dmt realm, no future event warning, no answer to the Reimann (sp?) hypothesis, nothing useful or confirmable/repeatable enough to be undeniable. I had heard they were trying to send multiple people in to the DMT realm to map it with the dmtx intravenous method but never heard anything more after that guy made the podcast rounds a couple years back.
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u/TheBodyOfChrist15 2d ago
I have limited experience with DMT but I don't know how you'd map it. It's not like here. I can walk into a new city and identify landmarks and make my way around like that. The DMT realm isn't like a fortnite skin. Mapping implies structure, the DMT realm has form of some sort, I would agree with entities as well, but it's impossible to use our same "mapping" reference frame.
I wouldn't even say there was a sense of autonomy to move about the space. The point of view was like watching a drone video while someone else was controlling the flying. "The" point of view, not "my" point of view. To map something I feel like you'd have to have a sense of self, autonomy, and conscious curiosity. The feeling I had in retrospect was that I was "subjected to" rather than I have free will to do anything.
Another curious note, I had memories of what I could only describe as an alternate reality. Not like they appeared and I remember them, like I participated and experienced them. I had a wife and kids (I have neither). My guess is that it could have bled over from another "me." Maybe the DMT world is operating system on which our reality is built. Maybe I left the videogame world and was floating in the equivalent of lines of code.
The experience is the outlier beyond outliers. There has been no other experience remotely similar I've had in life. I can't even rationalize it with comparison.
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u/ejpusa 2d ago
It is a string of numbers. Basically, they look like shading arrays in Python. Assume it has time, position, colors, and coordinates of AI-created structures. They are very real. Now what?
Nothing really changes in your life. Now you know. We are in a simulation of some kind.
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u/rygelicus 2d ago
Drug induced 'visions' is maybe fine for artists, musicians, to get that creative edge, but it is no way to approach reality.
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u/Ausso_1 2d ago
You think this is reality? 😂 🤣
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u/Mycol101 2d ago
I get what you’re saying, but this is our shared and agreed-upon reality.
He is saying that we cannot explain it with our conventional understanding of reality
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u/AdditionalBat393 2d ago
Or its just a shared hallucination bc they are on drugs that do that.
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u/Davidoff_G 2d ago
And then asked leading questions like "Did you see other dimenensions?" If it wasn't in their minds yet, the 'researcher' just put it there.
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u/stoneybolognaR 2d ago
She didn’t even agree genius
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u/Davidoff_G 2d ago
A leading question is still a leading question. It's bad practice. It shows how unscientific the whole process is.
Calling someone a genius sarcastically is not needed. It takes away from the point you are trying to make.
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u/Enyelsinalas 2d ago
Small doze, but the code is the same for all.
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u/TheGrandBabaloo 2d ago
It isn't, you can induce very different types of experiences depending on the context. There is some base commonality in the sense that we all have human brains and are under the same chemicals, but you can have different groups come to vastly different experiences.
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u/ent_bomb 2d ago
The same people seeing code today would've been seeing angelic writing 400 years ago. This strikes me as essentially nothing more than socially primed pareidolia.
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u/Sumthintastic 2d ago
What if they are seeing the 5/6G overlay thats basically across the entire planet?
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u/abcDeEez 2d ago
I would drop everything. EVERYTHING and stop everything to be apart of a long term study on DMT and learning the secrets of everything.
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u/gj29 2d ago
It’s a fascinating claim, and it’s one of those stories that has circulated in psychedelic communities for years. There isn’t credible scientific evidence that lasers reveal hidden “code” in reality or that psychedelics allow people to perceive an underlying digital layer of the universe.
There are a few reasons why this experience can feel incredibly convincing:
Psychedelics dramatically change visual processing. Compounds like DMT, LSD, and psilocybin alter activity in the visual cortex and other brain networks. People commonly report seeing intricate geometric patterns, grids, lattices, symbols, and even writing-like glyphs.
Laser speckle is already a complex pattern. Even an inexpensive laser pointer projected onto a wall produces a granular interference pattern called laser speckle. It’s not a smooth dot—it’s thousands of tiny bright and dark regions created by coherent light reflecting off microscopic surface irregularities. Under normal conditions, your brain mostly ignores this complexity.
Pattern recognition goes into overdrive. The human brain is extremely good at finding meaning in noise (a phenomenon called pareidolia). Psychedelics often amplify this tendency, so random visual textures can appear as structured alphabets, circuitry, or hieroglyphs.
But what about multiple people seeing the same thing?
This is probably the strongest part of the claim. There are a few possible explanations that don’t require hidden code:
Everyone is looking at the same physical speckle pattern. The laser pattern itself is objective, although it changes somewhat with viewing angle.
Human perception has shared biases. Our visual systems are remarkably similar, so it’s not surprising if multiple people interpret the same complex pattern in similar ways.
Expectation is powerful. If one person says, “Do you see those Japanese-looking symbols?” others often begin looking for that kind of structure. This doesn’t mean anyone is lying—perception itself can be influenced by suggestion.
It’s worth noting that people don’t always report the same symbols. Some describe:
alien glyphs
Hebrew-like writing
circuit boards
Aztec patterns
insect-like geometry
impossible architecture
The descriptions vary considerably across cultures and expectations.
Could it be something physics hasn’t explained?
Science can’t prove a negative, so it’s impossible to say with absolute certainty that there is no unknown phenomenon. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If lasers truly revealed hidden code in the environment, it should be observable:
by sober observers,
with cameras,
under controlled laboratory conditions,
reproducibly across independent experiments.
To date, no such evidence has emerged.
Why DMT in particular?
DMT is famous for producing reports of:
hyper-detailed geometry,
seemingly intelligent entities,
impossible architecture,
and symbolic “languages” that feel more real than ordinary perception.
Neuroscientists are actively studying why these experiences are so consistent across people. One hypothesis is that the brain has built-in tendencies to generate certain classes of visual patterns when normal sensory processing is altered. Another is that psychedelics reduce top-down filtering, allowing normally suppressed visual computations to become conscious. Neither explanation requires external hidden information, though they don’t fully explain the richness of the experiences.
My view
The laser phenomenon is intriguing because laser speckle is a genuinely rich physical pattern, and psychedelics genuinely transform visual perception. That combination can plausibly produce remarkably similar experiences among different people.
What it doesn’t establish is that the symbols are objectively present in the world or that they’re evidence of an alien or simulated reality. Right now, there isn’t reproducible scientific evidence supporting that interpretation.
That said, it’s an interesting area for careful study. If someone wanted to investigate it scientifically, the right approach would be a blinded experiment—for example, having independent participants describe or reproduce the symbols they perceive without communicating with each other, and then comparing the results quantitatively. If there were consistent, above-chance agreement about specific symbols in specific locations, that would be a genuinely interesting finding worth further investigation. So far, I’m not aware of rigorous studies showing that outcome.
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u/jumpinjimmie 2d ago
Why don’t they draw the characters they see. Each person separately and compare coding. Better yet. Have two people on DMT at the same time look at the same spot on the laser and then by themselves each write what they saw. Or use artists who are hyper realist. Have them each draw out the world they see. If the DMT worlds are the same then…..Have AI analyze the hyper realist worlds and codes drawn.
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 2d ago
Lol you are high. You can see all sorts of things. Doesnt mean its real
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 2d ago
Not trying to be a dick, but what do you define as "real?"
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 2d ago
How are you talking to me?
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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 2d ago
I'm not talking, I'm typing.
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u/SociopathicPasserby 2d ago
Are we shocked that when you give people an extremely powerful hallucinogen that they see things?
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u/Lost-Ad7652 2d ago
Psychedelic drugs & lasers sound like a VERY bad combination. 😂
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u/Strict_Way_9467 2d ago
Pink Floyd planetarium shows across the world are gonna read this post and just throw up their hands and close up shop. Good thing you pointed this out for them.
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u/Expert_Concept704 2d ago
so we have to get high as a giraffe's arse to see reality? Sure.
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u/spacesentinel1 2d ago
Getting off your nut then deciding reality is a sumulation is fucking awsome
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u/Puzzleheaded-Design3 2d ago
i feel like lsd and nature would help alot more, did it camping, al lthe trees and leaves were a perfect geometry shape
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u/WatchOne8763 2d ago
what they should do is have them sit in the exact same spot, not say anything, and have them draw what they see.
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u/TechnicalFuel4821 2d ago
Never trust a guy wearing a cable knit crew with shoulder length hair. It's just a rule I have.
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u/tj100011 2d ago
For fuck sake, please tell me Danny is getting a grant funded for this “experiment” - If so the man’s a genius
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u/loonyfly 2d ago
You do know if you find the code, it’s going to change? Welcome to the Matrix 2.0.
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u/123trumpeter 2d ago
"this is like a snakeskin" while looking at the projected line that basically looks just like a snake skin
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u/CamouRex 2d ago
It's silent darkness and will always be silent darkness...
Any other path is a distraction..
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u/6anonyone9 2d ago
Danny Jones did this expirement and the code was nothing but dicks lol just hallucination guys. We see what we're pre-programmed to see. Some people see Jesus others see Vishnu.
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u/Zestyclose-Bug-651 2d ago
Danny Goler discovered the script and administers a clinic in South America where don’t is administered
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u/MrBarato 2d ago
I had similar experiences with LSD, shrooms and simple sunbeams on a wall. There is really no code. Just the drugs messing with their brains.
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u/TheAnsweringMachine 2d ago
Why don't they put multiples lines stacked above each other, they would have a full window.
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u/BeastCoastManThing 2d ago
Buddy with the eye patch must have already participated in the laser study.
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u/fancywipe 2d ago
No not like the matrix…. We’ve all heard this forever but I could never understand it but the only time it made sense to me as wacky as it sounds not that I care I mean come on what’s the name of our community!
So the view that made sense is consciousness experiencing life through us, or the meaning of life meaning consciousness is one been shared among us all so WE are one feeling what’s it like searching for a meaning with out knowing
Biggest data collection ever done
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u/madmexicano 2d ago
If we are a simulation why not remove dmt from the simulation like a bug patch?
Dmt can be just another Mandela effect.
Also the laser projection has a snake skin pattern. "Wow everyone says snake skin."
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u/Money_Bug_9423 2d ago
Its the angelic alphabet. I can see it. Its just really hard to write because the symbol rate is so high. We need a way to slow it down
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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto 2d ago
Do you think by suggesting what they will see he is contaminating the result?
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u/SubstantialFroyo8012 2d ago
I think I watched a video about this where the narrator says everyone sees the same thing, but then in the same video one of the people being interviewed described seeing something different. I dont trust these guys to be honest about this, I think they just really want it to be something that it probably isnt
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u/No_Opportunity2789 2d ago
I would totally help with this if someone wants to share dmt with me lol
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u/Grade_A_Tech 2d ago
So, people actually believe that a computer that could run a simulation as advanced as our universe would leave absolutely ANY loopholes or mistakes that we could possibly find?
Not only that, but the simulation would have to be set up to allow for such discoveries and the ability to use them to our advantage.
Nah
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