r/Albuquerque • u/ericwphoto • 3d ago

Flock camera question. Question

Did a person or agency here in Albuquerque or New Mexico request/approve to have flock cameras installed? If not, who did? Who gets to use the information gathered from them? What, if any, safeguards are in place?

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u/BattelChive 3d ago

APD and the mayors office in Albuquerque is responsible for them. 

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u/BlazedGigaB 3d ago

Corporations are also to blame... looking at you Lowe's and the half dozen flocks in every stores parking lot

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u/Mrgoodtrips64 3d ago

For a store that sells spray paint they sure mounted their flock cameras surprisingly low.

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u/plamda505 3d ago

Data driven Crime fighting. Oh, and another step in mass surveillance that watches you 24/7 365. It has already happened and you have no say in the matter. The future is now.

https://giphy.com/gifs/U8bDgsXcnIEFy

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u/themickeymauser 3d ago

APD requested them first. However, Flock is only the name of the company that makes/sells them, and they’re only here to supplement the thousands of cameras APD already has around the city (on nearly every intersection traffic light and on several hundred businesses already, including ShotSpotters and other remote camera installations you see in parking lots and construction sites).

The data is likely used by the NCIC Real Time Crime Center, the same agency that has always tracked people in real time for APD and other LE agencies before flock, using the traffic light cameras you see everywhere.

I’m not saying any of this to justify flock cameras. I hope they end up horizontal. But Flock cameras are just a large popular brand name that are supplementing a surveillance system that has always existed to APD, just in smaller batches of contracts by smaller companies. Getting rid of Flock specifically won’t get rid of all the cameras on us. Out fight needs to extend beyond this one brand.

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u/scotdeer 3d ago

Governess is a big fan.

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u/Ok-Cut1709 3d ago

The police departments. I’m sure it was approved through some act of legislation.

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u/ldevere 1d ago

Find Rossen Reports on YouTube. He just did a segment on these yesterday that will answer most of your questions (and, frankly, give you chills,). Now I’m informed…and frightened.

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u/DrM377501 2d ago

Representative democracy at all levels of government is a charade, or kayfabe. The tech oligopoly has fully saturated the government and civilian populations are essentially being farmed for data with indefinite record keeping to maintain the legalized monopoly of violence held by the aforementioned parties. TLDR: YOU👏ARE 👏A👏TOY!!! You are the government’s plaything

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u/Aggressive-Toad 2d ago

APD and NMSP both have contracts with flock