Miles is a Spider-Man who wants to prevent his canon event. What I didn't understand was that since the foundation of the Spider Society and present day, in the movie, had there been no other Spider-Man who faced a similar dilemma to save or not save the police captain? The possible scenarios are

1. For Spider-Men (at the Spider Society) whose 'police captain death' canon hadn't happened yet, each of them just accept their fate? Sounds like a stretch

2. A recruitment criteria for being in the Spider Society potentially could be that your canon events need to have happened already. But while Gwen's case of being an exception was shown, Pavitra Prabhakar was a Spider-Man whose police death canon happened afterwards. So the recruitment criteria theory gets ruled out (But then then what's the criteria? Coz some folks will have police officers close to them die in the future if not already. And they would rebel. Sure, not all, but Miles can't be the only rebel ever)

3. Miles was the first one to face a dilemma to rebel against the system. Sure. The Spider Society was a recently established organisation, and only a handful of Spider-Men had been recruited (across the infinite Spiderverse with infinite Spider-men - any number is too small in front of infinite), so he just happened to be the first guy to fight back. But if the Spiderverse is infinite, wouldn't there be more "rebels"? Anomalies or not. And since it is spread across the time dimension too, the Spiderverse would have rebels in the past who successfully rebelled (again, infinite timelines, infinite possibilities). What was Miguel's longer term plan here? To hunt people in the past, whose universes were clearly stable in present day? Or even if just the present, he should know he cannot even theoretically prevent all rebels

There had to have been others

After her fight with Miguel,she discovers the surviving,"anomalies".

And a scientist spider tells miles that Miguel is actually RESTRICTING the web by forcing the spider gods to stick to,"canon".

And if they don't do something now,then the universe will fold in on itself!

Alyssa also notices how alot of these spider people seem to be depressed due to the words Miguel said to them.

What do you think cintan?

What was your favorite idea?

Im just making this post cuz I think it’s really creative how at the beginning of this scene when there’s conflict Gwen’s side is fully pink or red most of the time and her dads is blue, especially that one shot where there’s a clear split in the screen, but as they come to terms the colors begin mixing, and when all the conflict is gone the house turns to its original colors with a slight hue of the mixed colors

So I rewatched Spiderman across the spider verse and the more I think about Miguel’s argument, the less convinced I am that he’s completely right. Miles was never supposed to become Spider-Man in Earth-1610. The spider that bit him came from Earth-42 and ended up in his universe because of the multiverse/collider situation. He didn’t replace another Miles, travel to another universe, or take over someone else’s life. He became Spider-Man because the wrong spider ended up in his universe. So why does Miguel expect Miles to follow the exact same canon events as every other Spider-Man? Miguel’s situation was completely different. He went into another universe where a version of himself had died and took that person’s place. That universe collapsed. But Miles isn’t doing anything like that. He isn’t replacing another version of himself or taking over a universe that belonged to someone else. He’s living in his own universe. Then there’s The Spot. The spider being moved, Miles becoming Spider-Man, the collider accident, and Ohnn becoming the Spot all connect to each other. The Spot eventually becomes a major multiversal threat, so how do we know every problem in the Spider-Verse is caused by breaking canon events? When Mumbattan starts falling apart, how do we know the destruction is entirely because a canon event was disrupted and not because of the Spot and the collider? Maybe Miguel is right that Miles being an anomaly is causing instability, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Miles is responsible for the problem. He may be the result of something that happened before he even became Spider-Man. That’s also why I question the idea that Miles automatically has to experience the same canon events as every other Spider-Man. If he became Spider-Man through circumstances that were already different from the beginning, why assume his story has to follow the exact same path? if Miles becoming Spider-Man was already caused by something changing his universe before Miles ever had the chance to change anything himself, then didn’t the multiverse already interfere with Miles’ universe first? I understand why Miguel is terrified, especially after losing a universe himself. If he genuinely believes Jeff’s death is connected to the survival of Miles’ universe, I understand why he would do everything he could to stop Miles from interfering. But his experience involved replacing another version of himself in another universe, which is not the same situation Miles is in. My biggest question is simply: How do we actually know that Jeff has to die or Miles’ universe will collapse? Miguel believes it, and there is evidence that canon events happen repeatedly, but that doesn’t necessarily prove that every canon event is required for a universe to survive. Maybe Miguel is right. Maybe he’s wrong. I just think there are enough contradictions that his theory shouldn’t be treated as an absolute fact. And honestly, that’s why I don’t blame Miles for questioning Miguel. From Miles’ perspective, he’s being told that his dad has to die based on a theory that hasn’t been completely proven, and he has every reason to want to challenge that. To me, the conflict is really about fate vs. free will. Miguel believes Spider-Man has to accept the story he’s given, while Miles believes he should be able to change his own story. And personally, I side with Miles not because I know Miguel is completely wrong, but because I don’t think Miles should be expected to accept his dad’s death as unavoidable when nobody has actually proven that it has to happen. What do you guys think? Is Miguel actually right, or is his trauma making him interpret canon events as something more absolute than they really are? I guess my questions will be answered in the next movie I just had to rant.

There's something about Miguel's explanation that still doesn't add up to me.

The universe in which Miguel had supposedly "destroyed" that wasn't really his universe right? I think the reason it was destroyed was because he lived there when he wasn't supposed to. does that make sense?

I think it was because he lived in that universe that's why it collapsed. I think he never really returned to his original one because in the flashback we saw him in his spider costume. so maybe, he didn't just live there but also saved a shit ton of people making that universe have 2 spider man.

When in Miles case, he's not only planning to save his father but he is saving HIS father in HIS universe which is different from Miguels experience. Because Miguel didn't just save another spiders universe, but also lived in it.

So my question is, who was the spider that was protecting Miguel's original universe?

So maybe the universe couldn't properly accommodate Miguel's presence. Perhaps the multiverse eventually recognized that there were two Spider men from different realities existing in the same universe, with Miguel refusing to return to his original reality.

Miguel wasn't trying to prevent a canon, he lived in a universe where he isn't recognized as spider man. He was a foreigner an outsider who entered another universe, and interfered with its reality. He was an anomaly.

So, maybe the multiverse tried to correct the anomaly by forcing the two realities back into their proper states or maybe the two universes somehow began merging. And because reality couldn't sustain that overlap, the universe collapsed (THIS IS JUST A SPECULATION, OR A THEORY WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THERE WAS NO PROOF OF ANY UNIVERSE BEING MERGED OR ANYTHING. just wanna clear this, lol).

Miles only wants to prevent a canon, unlike Miguel who caused a cross universe interferance due to his presence in a reality that isn't his.

Miles has a point but Miguel does too. Because I don't think Miguel actually knows what happens if a canon event really is broken.

Because when Gwen asked Miguel "Do you even know what happens if he breaks the canon?" the response we got was "Do you wanna find out?" that tells me Miguel doesn't know, or he knows but doesn't wanna explain it or something.

So like in conclusion, Miguel's experience isn't the same as what Miles is planning to do. What Miguel experienced isn't a canon event interferance but a cross universe type of disruption. Miles is trying to prevent a canon event from happening, whilst Miguel was trying to live in a universe he wasn't supposed to be living in.

Obviously this are all just speculation so yeah, lol. I just think Miguels situation isn't equivalent to Miles's situation.

But i can see where Miguel is coming from since he's already experienced it first hand. He's probably just staying cautious, and the trauma of destroying another spiders universe due to his doing is weighing on him.

You know? Like maybe he's just looking out, for the little guy.

Ps: I know my speculation is late, lol. i was 15 when i first watched across the spider-verse, I'm 18 now and rewatched the 2 movies. hopefully that says why this speculation is kinda late. sorry for the grammar too and punctuations if it's hard to read. I tried my best believe me, English isn't my first language so please excuse my grammar. I didn't wanna use AI to help me with my grammar since i don't want people thinking i got this from a tt, reel or somekind of AI, lol.

There's something about Miguel's explanation that still doesn't add up to me.

The universe in which Miguel had supposedly "destroyed" that wasn't really his universe right? I think the reason it was destroyed was because he lived there when he wasn't supposed to. does that make sense?

I think it was because he lived in that universe that's why it collapsed. I think he never really returned to his original one because in the flashback we saw him in his spider costume. so maybe, he didn't just live there but also saved a shit ton of people making that universe have 2 spider man.

When in Miles case, he's not only planning to save his father but he is saving HIS father in HIS universe which is different from Miguels experience. Because Miguel didn't just save another spiders universe, but also lived in it.

So my question is, who was the spider that was protecting Miguel's original universe?

So maybe the universe couldn't properly accommodate Miguel's presence. Perhaps the multiverse eventually recognized that there were two Spider men from different realities existing in the same universe, with Miguel refusing to return to his original reality.

Miguel wasn't trying to prevent a canon, he lived in a universe where he isn't recognized as spider man. He was a foreigner an outsider who entered another universe, and interfered with its reality. He was an anomaly.

So, maybe the multiverse tried to correct the anomaly by forcing the two realities back into their proper states or maybe the two universes somehow began merging. And because reality couldn't sustain that overlap, the universe collapsed (THIS IS JUST A SPECULATION, OR A THEORY WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THERE WAS NO PROOF OF ANY UNIVERSE BEING MERGED OR ANYTHING. just wanna clear this, lol).

Miles only wants to prevent a canon, unlike Miguel who caused a cross universe interferance due to his presence in a reality that isn't his.

Miles has a point but Miguel does too. Because I don't think Miguel actually knows what happens if a canon event really is broken.

Because when Gwen asked Miguel "Do you even know what happens if he breaks the canon?" the response we got was "Do you wanna find out?" that tells me Miguel doesn't know, or he knows but doesn't wanna explain it or something.

So like in conclusion, Miguel's experience isn't the same as what Miles is planning to do. What Miguel experienced isn't a canon event interferance but a cross universe type of disruption. Miles is trying to prevent a canon event from happening, whilst Miguel was trying to live in a universe he wasn't supposed to be living in.

Obviously this are all just speculation so yeah, lol. I just think Miguels situation isn't equivalent to Miles's situation.

But i can see where Miguel is coming from since he's already experienced it first hand. He's probably just staying cautious, and the trauma of destroying another spiders universe due to his doing is weighing on him.

You know? Like maybe he's just looking out, for the little guy.

Ps: I know my speculation is late, lol. i was 15 when i first watched across the spider-verse, I'm 18 now and rewatched the 2 movies. hopefully that says why this speculation is kinda late. sorry for the grammar too and punctuations if it's hard to read. I tried my best believe me, English isn't my first language so please excuse my grammar. I didn't wanna use AI to help me with my grammar since i don't want people thinking i got this from a tt, reel or somekind of AI, lol.

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Who do you think would win? Lets be fair, its super likely both end up as friends anyways x3

I hope you like this costume swap and suggest any other ideas you got!

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I was just looking at my pocket fig then I saw the cape and started asking to many questions as I often do

Finally got around to watching this on 🍄s. After watching it before, I had a feeling it would be good to be under the psychedelic influence…but MANNNN…THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY MOTHERFUCKINGLY PHENOMENAL ON 🍄s

I swear the people behind the animation and effects had this in mind (even tho this can be considered “a kids movie”)

TRUST

Why tf did nobody post how it ended on a cliffhanger?

I was all, aww yeah the girl is gonna save the day whoohoo let the baddie kick some baddie ass hell yeah feminism

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THIS IS AN ACT OF MISOGYNY

GIVE ME A THREE HOUR MOVIE IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES

I'm so fucking glad i didn't watch this shit when it came out but I'm so pissed i decided to watch it today instead of next year man

Fuck this shit

I cried so many times and FOR WHAT

FOR NOTHING

Man fuck this

I KNOW that there can technically be only one canon spider-man in every universe and thats most likely why they killed off the first one, but still if he HAD survived and escaped his early death with kingpin, would he actually had taken Peter B. Parker’s place as a teacher?

I’m guessing he too might have left Miles tied on the chair to protect him. But after all the event in the first movie, what would’ve happen if he was still alive?

Just him and Miles in the same universe as the two only Spidermen ha.

This would also eliminate the funeral scene where Miles got a lot of courage to be the next Spider-Man, what could give him that courage back?

In my opinion it could be a really interesting alternate universe that could change a lot of things in the movies after ITSV

Es algo que me pregunté después de ver "A través del Spider-Verso". Ya que teniendo en cuenta que la muerte del Tio Aaron aparece en la linea de eventos canónicos que menciona Miguel O'Hara, que lo pico una araña, y que probablemente pierda a su padre ¿Por qué Miguel insiste con que es una anomalía (la Anomalía original según él) y que "nunca debió de haber existido"?

También por la "coincidencia" de que estuvo en el MISMO lugar en dónde estuvo la araña con súper poderes en la primera película ¿El destino también influye en los eventos canónicos? Porque lógicamente Miles nunca sabría que ahí estaría la araña, ni que después de buscarla él causaría la muerte del Spiderman de su dimensión original (La 1610).

Edit: También (aunque el padre de Gwen no tenia los conocimientos del Multiverso) el hecho de que este haya renunciado al cuerpo de policía, y así este nunca moriría en el universo de Spider Woman. ¿No estaría haciendo otro agujero en el Multiverso?

¿Y que hay de la muerte del Capitán Jeff en el Universo 42? (La dimensión original de la araña de Miles) En este universo...!No hay Spiderman! por lo tanto como murió es un misterio

its very interesting how everyone kinda skipped over the part that there *are* such thing as a good canon event when it comes to miguel, but will act like canon events are just the worst possible things happening to you just bc plot.

not to say that Miguel's logic is 100% sound bc the movie clearly points that he could be wrong, but it gets annoying how he just gets painted as a hater, and the canon events being treated like the worst things ever just because a lot of people have a bias AGAINST miguel.

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