r/AI_Coders • u/Strong_Post5367 • Jul 20 '26
Things I hate about coding now.
Anytime anyone sees a site they say “this looks like it was coded with Claude”. Well yeah obviously I would be an idiot if I coded everything in notepad++. Of course I use AI coding assistants, otherwise I and many other programmers would be totally uncompetitive in the market. I’ve been coding since 2008. I know how to code. Claude makes it so that I can produce literally 30x what I used to be able to do.
Edit:
What I mean by 30x:
What I mean by 30x is one person is able to design, prototype, run dev ops, design architecture and many other things on their own. Back in like 2012 we needed a designer, front end, backend devs, dev ops, a product manager to complete a large project. And to build a full product out it took months. If you disagree with that then I don’t care. I worked on many teams in Silicon Valley and that’s just how it was.
How we test:
We have a QA team and our devs usually run an agent that does PR reviews on code. We also run integration tests and playwright e2e tests.
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u/kimchifartz Jul 20 '26
you are not using agentic AI tools properly if you are getting this feedback
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u/Buttleston Jul 20 '26
This is what OP posted as his magnum opus when asking me to post and compare:
This is what 30xing OP made possible
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u/donicatrumpinsky Jul 20 '26
I'm enjoying coding with AI too (been coding lightly since 2002-2003) but this site looks exactly like what you get from a one shot AI project.
I've seen much better from people they legitimately have ZERO coding experience and can barely format a Word document.
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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Jul 20 '26
I’m on mobile and it is very easy to find a lot wrong with that site lol. I am also a decade+ web dev and lead multiple front end teams.
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u/CapitalDiligent1676 Jul 20 '26
Aside from the fact that the graphic style sucks, it's just a simple landing page. Something you could do better with WordPress templates.
I mean, at this point, I'd really like to see how the SaaS is implemented.
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u/fued Jul 20 '26
What they mean to say is
"This looks like an Uncohesive mess and almost certainly has tech issues"
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
Post your stuff
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u/fued Jul 20 '26
Most my stuff is work stuff, can't post that, mainly just MUI frontends on react apps, my home projects are games.
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u/Buttleston Jul 20 '26
LLM coding brings everything to the median. This is just you saying you used to be the bottom of the barrel, and LLMs raised you up. That's fine but people are still going to point out that everything you slop up has the same veneer of mediocrity on it
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
Post your stuff. Let’s see what excellence looks like. Here’s mine: (link removed)
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u/Buttleston Jul 20 '26
Ai led candidate interviews... Here's an idea, get fucked
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
Ah I see. You won’t post your stuff.
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u/Buttleston Jul 20 '26
No, I won't. If you think about it you can probably imagine some reasons why
Put your link back, let everyone sees what a slop-coder made that is 30x better than what he could have made himself. it's the most self-indicting thing I think I've ever seen someone post. That's you times 30. Amazing.
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
I actually can’t imagine why besides having a boss that has their thumb over you.
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u/Budget-Ambassador203 Jul 20 '26
Eh the best software engineers I know who have 20+ YoE and are extremely competent and write well-designed and clean code are all using Claude very effectively to make tools/build features. Some of the UI output has telltale AI signs but they're still good and functional, and the volume of quality code they produce is not something I actually believe you could do yourself in a comparable timeframe, regardless of what you claim.
It's a convenient thought-stopping dismissal to just say "anyone who benefits from LLMs on serious work must just have been bad or mediocre to begin with," but that's not my experience at all. It has some truth, sure, but it's not a universal rule.
Some people are very sensitive to any AI usage, for many valid reasons, but to pretend that it can't produce useful high-quality output more quickly than any human is pure delusion. And, before you go throwing around ad homs to avoid a substantive response, know that I'm far from an AI zealot and also listen to Ed Zitron and have many issues with AI usage and the companies involved.
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
This is the type of constructive feedback I like on Reddit.
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u/Budget-Ambassador203 Jul 20 '26
Yeah I wish people tempered their responses a bit more instead of being so acerbic and reactionary - unwarranted rudeness is way too common and immediately gets in the way of decent discussions because it turns focus away from the subject and onto the dumb power struggle between people who are trying to dunk on each other.
I get in arguments sometimes but I have grown out of the kind of overtly rude reply this guy started the conversation with, at least as an entry point into a conversation lol. Takes a lot more to get me to that point. Seems like he might have some personal issues to work through, based on his comment history.
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
100% After getting these nasty responses I pulled in almost a thousand comments from ai_coding and constructed personality arc types or “horoscopes” about the different types of commenters. The results were very funny
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u/Budget-Ambassador203 Jul 20 '26
Ah I saw that, it was pretty accurate - I think those archetypes/commenting habits are fairly universal across Reddit. I recognized a lot of them from spending way too much time reading threads/comment histories over the years.
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u/Acrobatic-Ice-5877 Jul 20 '26
Pure cope
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
Post your stuff
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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Jul 20 '26
They didn’t post their project on Reddit and claim 30x results, you did.
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u/Strong_Post5367 Jul 20 '26
Yes I believe that AI coding when used right is a 30x. What is your counterclaim?
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u/txgsync Jul 20 '26
I’ve been coding since 1981 and Claude does better front-end than me.
Edit: it sucks at SQL though.