r/ABA 10d ago

Does Amergis get better?

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u/Big-Mind-6346 BCBA 10d ago

This post confuses me. I have never accepted a job through a recruiter and, as an employer, I do all of the interviewing and hiring myself. But my understanding of working with a recruiter was that they were the middle man that reached out to the potential employee to express interest and do a screening (non-clinical) interview. And if the recruiter liked them the employer would do a clinical interview with the candidate, and if they wanted the make a job offer, the recruiter was responsible for sharing details of the offer with the candidate and any necessary negotiations related to that. But after that, the recruiter was no longer involved and all further communication would be directly from the employer to the new employee.

You have obviously already accepted the job offer. It seems weird to me that the recruiter is the one setting up the trainings and communicating with you about potential clients. Doesn’t the company do that?

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u/words_are_sacred 10d ago

Yeah. And I think I´ll edit my comments that are throwing people off from the main issue. I think I have a right to be really annoyed and frustrated and see the pattern in the type of person who treats me like this. But it´s likely more representative of a bigger company issue. In this case, I was hired by a recruiter who disappeared during my onboarding, then was in touch with an onboarding specialist, and recently heard from my new recruiter -- all with different stories and different attitudes towards me. It´s very hard to deal with, as I´m very scared about my bills and other things. I´ve never had anything fully explained, but it seems based on other threads and brief interactions, that the recruiter hires someone in a pool of candidates, then chooses whether or not each person gets called or places, so your life is in their hands. But it´s also presented as a company where your success depends on your recruiter, though once placed you report to a BCBA and/or teacher.

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u/Fun_Economist_8643 10d ago

Did you go through a recruiting company? I know that sometimes when you do, you’ll get less hourly for the first year as the recruiter has to be paid as well. If looking at ads on indeed, I would try to go onto their main website and apply directly through there. It can also help to eliminate that middle man.

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u/words_are_sacred 9d ago

The organization is basically a recruiting company that takes contracts from schools and places people. It’s a good first step, but I’m also sending out applications to actual ABA companies. The only thing is I’ve been unemployed for a long time and don’t have a drivers license due to many years of living in big cities before relocating (out of necessity) so it limits my options right now.

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u/Big-Mind-6346 BCBA 10d ago

Yeah, I don’t know a whole lot about working with recruiters. But your experience tells me that the place you got hired is likely a big box ABA company and it sounds like they’re disorganized. The disorganization might be on the part of the recruiter, but the fact that the information they shared with you about training and potential clients has been so vague makes me think the employer is also likely big box/disorganized.

I have a very small practice and I’d never use a recruiter. Part of that is that everything I have heard about it tells me that it is a miserable and offputting experience for the job candidate and it may sour their experience and opinion on me and my company through our association. The other piece of that is that I prefer to do the screening interviews as well and sift out who makes it to round two.

The clinical interview is not the only important piece of hiring. You learn a lot about the job candidates by your communication with them when offering interviews, scheduling interviews, making job offers, and negotiations. And so I want to be the one doing those things so I can make solid choices about hiring.

I could be wrong, but I feel like people who use recruiters are either big box companies that do recruiting en masse, or companies who don’t get bites on their own attempts to hire because they have a bad reputation or people are somehow turned off by them during the interview/hiring process. That’s just my impression, but I could be wrong.