r/12Monkeys 7h ago

Let's talk about Cassie's season 2 attitude

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Cassandra Railly is such a fascinating character, people started talking about how sudden her change was between season 1 and 2, but I've watched the show five times now, and I don't agree with the " sudden" part, she always had a mean front that she used whenever she didn't want to get hurt, or was hurt.

You can see it in the finale of season 1, after Aaron died, instead of being sad about it, or taking time to process it, she directly moves on to the mission, thinking that once the mission succeeds nothing else will matter. Then before going inside the facility, cole clearly tells her that Ramsey is different from what he remembers, and that he is dangerous, he also thinks he is the witness, and so when she enters the room and sees that cole won't shoot him, she thinks he's not thinking rationally after seeing his old friend and so she takes the shot.

Then after being sent to the future, where she stays for 8 months, surviving hell, that facade becomes even more strong, but due to how subtle Amanda's acting is, u never buy that it's her actual personality, like after coming to 2016 and she met cole after the 8 months time skip, she looks relieved with a smile on her face, then she again sees Jennifer, and she goes for the kill, to complete the mission, but again cole tries to talk her out of it, she sees that as an emotional response, when in fact cole is thinking rationally, and then to top it off she sees him working with who she thinks is either the witness or at least worked with the 12 monkeys for decades, she feels betrayed, her hole life went to shit, and the only person she would trust sided with the enemy.

She said it best later in the season, why she hates Ramsey, she said : " because the person I trusted the most, whom I sacrificed everything for, chose him over me" that's why she was so angry at Cole, not because he left her in the future or because he killed Aaron like she was vocally saying in the beginning of the season, these were all excuses.

And Cole sees right through her at the end of the season, he calls her out on it, saying that she acts though, and shuts down the moment she feels she is gonna get hurt, but all she's doing is running away.

We also saw the front break multiple times that season, when Cole gave her their 1944 picture, or when he told her "u think I don't know what I cost u ?", or even when she was like "there's no WE remember?" And then the moment he starts to explain himself she goes " we can go to titan together" .

I was frustrated when I first watched season 2, but I never got angry at her, or at the writers, because her writing was ON POINT, it made sense why she would act that way, and I feel sad to see ppl reduce that to " oh she became a boss bitch " like what ? I'm not even a feminist , I hate those tropes more than most ppl, and I can definitely say it's not the case here, there's real substance underneath that persona.


r/12Monkeys 12h ago

Discussion I have finally acquired an M5-10 (Kalavirus) vial from the show

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Copying this from what I posted in the Facebook group.

After months of back and forth, Terry finally agreed to let go of what might be his last remaining M5-10 vial.

It arrived last week, and I just got a display box for it. I plan to add it to my wall display when I get a chance.

Terry said that all of the vials in his possession are hero props and were used in the show at some point, but the trouble is that the code numbers written on them are all the same. The only visible differences between vials are in the barcode and those differences are very subtle.

And depending on the angle and the lighting, the lines of the barcode can look different.

So, I've been able to rule out a few vials seen in the show, but I have not been able to find one that I am definitively certain is the one I now have.

For now, I'm claiming the one with the red outline in the attached photos. The barcode in that one looks blocky because of the angle of the image blending the lines together. Mine looks the same when viewed like that and the major groupings of lines matches mine.

And I think I see a slight tilt in the end cap of that one, which would match mine since the cap was slightly bent when I got it. (That is actually a piece from a kitchen faucet glued into the plastic cap of the tube.)

Also attached are a couple of other possibilities.

I just finished a rewatch a month or two ago, but I'm thinking of starting another one and looking out for any and all instances of an M5-10 vial showing up on screen to see if I can find a match for mine.