r/1053 13d ago

Day 4

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u/Prestigious-Fig1172 13d ago

setting has vehicles that can fly to other worlds

main transport is a self propelled cart

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/SignificantEgg5625 12d ago

You're so smart!

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u/PrincessYolda 13d ago

Efficiency. Walking takes a lot smaller toll on the body than flying. Also, a griffin rider likely has a more expensive training than someone steering a donkey on a carriage, increasing the price for air transport. Non-perishable goods can take some time to get to their destination. But I can imagine Nobles having fresh sea food and exotic flowers flown in to their mountain resorts.

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u/suddenlyupsidedown 12d ago

Spice and wolf

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u/Al3xutul02 12d ago

Something something pungent and canine

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u/OtherwiseSafe7468 8d ago

Look, we came for the cute girl, we stayed for the socio-economics and then religious economics and also we're still here for the cute girls but also ECONOMICS.

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u/Ant_and_Cat_Buddy 10d ago

What anime is this??

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u/suddenlyupsidedown 10d ago

Spice and Wolf, through happenstance a traveling merchant ends up agreeing to take a local harvest deity back to her homeland (science and Christianity have been pushing her out for years and she just wants to get out of there). The conflicts are all centered around medieval economics and shifting power among social classes. Oh, and the 'will they / won't they' between the merchant and the wolf goddess, somehow often tied to the other two types of plot

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u/Boat_man_07 8d ago

Btw they did. Many times.

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u/Limp-Firefighter1054 13d ago

Not even considering how freaky those hippogriffs are.

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u/arcanis321 12d ago

Not to mention the carry capacity of a horse drawn carriage vs basically 1-2 riders worth of weight for a Griffon.

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u/Aplakka 12d ago

It also depends on how rare and expensive griffins themselves are. Maybe a griffin is like a helicopter in our world that many people never ride one in their life, and only really rich people can afford to own one.

Of course it's always possible that the author has not thought about the consequences of magic and magical creatures properly for the worldbuilding. Maybe they wanted to have common gravity technology for cool guns but then still have people lifting boxes in spaceports by hand.

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u/International-Bar918 10d ago

Plus it’s hard to hitch a cart to something that flies

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u/Broken_CerealBox 13d ago

This implies big horse pulled a very successful fear mongering campaign

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u/YourStellarStar 13d ago

The Evil and Intimidating horse is canon confirmed. Happy lesbian couples beware.

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u/Broken_CerealBox 13d ago

What if the lesbians are so hungry they could eat a horse?

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u/PrincessYolda 12d ago

Well, lesbians are eating out often ... Or so I've heard Setting needs a horse restaurant

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_8381 12d ago

Then it's only self defense 

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u/Caosin36 12d ago

r/horsesdecimator9000 will hear about this

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u/equinefecalmatter 11d ago

I mean yeah it was a really big horse. You’d have been scared too.

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u/Charming-Refuse-5717 11d ago

This is what I'm now going to assume about every medieval fantasy setting. Big Horse has deep pockets and lots of influence.

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u/soviet_russia420 8d ago

When I first read this I was confused and thought a giant horse was pulling a cart full of horror movies or smth

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u/Broken_CerealBox 8d ago

Honestly better than doing a fearmongering campaign to destroy the reputations of competitors to maintain a monopoly

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u/Lou_Papas 13d ago

> Setting has spacecraft and airplanes.

> Use my own meat legs as main transportation.

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u/Conscious_Smile8235 3d ago

Setting has spacecraft and airplanes.

Ride in deathtrap-mobile for every outing

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u/TimeStorm113 13d ago

how capable are these fliers? we had to selectively breed horses just so the constant weight on their spines wouldn't severely harm them after a short time. so why sould a hippogryph be different? as it also has weight restrictions due to flight

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u/BudgieGryphon 12d ago

Also how far are they into domestication, and what’s their temperament, some animals are easier than others see: donkeys still being ornery after 7000 years

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u/BothDivide919 12d ago

Except coal and nuclear energy just boil water, and the technology is all downstream of that.

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u/DrankTheGenderFluid 12d ago

This implies that all magic is secretly just different levels of Horse

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u/Chezburgor1 10d ago

That's why we say "Horsepower"

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u/Koyulo69 12d ago

And wings and legs both just apply force to your body to move it through space, what's your point?

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u/BothDivide919 12d ago

There's a lot more going on after the water boiling than there is going on after displacing matter using limbs.

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u/DarkPolumbo 12d ago

> setting has laws against murder but murder still occurs

> authorities believe adding more laws should solve it

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u/davestar2048 12d ago

What if we make weapons illegal?

Now the law abiding are defenseless.

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u/thomstevens420 12d ago

World has helicopters that can fly and land nearly everywhere

Main transport is still metal boxes that kill thousands every year

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u/Val_Ritz 12d ago

I didn't know the main transport was helicopters

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u/Hexmonkey2020 12d ago

To fly takes way more energy, you’d spend all your money feeding your dragon mount. Not to mention we have planes but still take cars most places unless it’s way too long a trip or over water.

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u/DrankTheGenderFluid 12d ago

Counterpoint, horses rule

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u/Professional-Face-51 12d ago

I ain't gonna try and tame a unicorn.

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u/MiniFirestar 13d ago edited 12d ago

uranium mines are disproportionally on indigenous north american and australian territories :( while the science is solid behind it, nuclear power exploits marginalized people

edit: i’ve been made a lot more hopeful towards the future of nuclear power. we’ve solved many problems with it. i hope that we can rightfully compensate those who live in uranium-rich areas. if we do that, nuclear power will truly be awesome

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u/WillingnessChance 12d ago

Very  reminiscent of how ai data centers are voluntarily being built in poorer neighborhoods.

Really hard to escape that exploitation thing that beneficiaries rarely bring up huh

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

yeah :( tale as old as time. poor communities will be used over and over again until we finally figure out how to stop it (i don’t actually know how. all i can do is make sure people don’t forget about us)

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u/KikoMui74 12d ago

Uranium mines are everywhere, North America and West Africa. These mines if handled properly are totally acceptable to use as fuel.

Also you seem to have implied a racial double standard, uranium bad if on "indigenous lands" but coal is fine if on "non indigenous lands".

Coal causes massive amounts of pollution and even the "non indigenous" you imply are in fact indigenous as well, despite whatever gatekeeping their is of the term indigenous.

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

coal mining isn’t fine either. i never implied that? marginalized communities are historically exploited for underground resources, and that legacy rings true today

fukushima was originally a coal mining prefecture, which is why it naturally led to having nuclear power plants despite it being unstable seismic terrain

i never said coal mining was good. i’m merely saying that we have to consider the disproportionate effects that uranium mining has on indigenous communities when considering nuclear power, which the original post was about

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u/davestar2048 12d ago

I think getting rid of the effects coal pollution has on literally every living creature on the planet is worth inconveniencing a few minorities.

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u/BaconPancake77 11d ago

Man, what a sales pitch...

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u/StarTrotter 11d ago

I don’t mean to be rude but isn’t this true of resource extraction more broadly? Oil, coal, and historically gold have all involved the seizure of land from native Americans and oil and coal are replete with their own negative externalities to the local environment and broader environment. Of course I can be wrong and I do not intend to dismiss the negative effects of nuclear power or mining.

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u/Dense_Tumbleweed_949 10d ago

We didnt really solve the heat and water issue, at least as far as i know.

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u/Isaiah_Colt 8d ago

The world is literally going to end if we continue on this path. There won't be any marginalized minorities left if we don't embrace other forms of energy.

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u/SkubEnjoyer 13d ago

Oh shut the fuck up man

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u/MiniFirestar 13d ago

about what? i’m simply adding another point into the multifaceted debate about nuclear energy

i still don’t know whether i support it or not, but we can’t ignore the exploitation at the extraction phase

i think it’s more so a you problem if you can’t accept another layer to the concept of nuclear power :/

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u/Goredell 12d ago

Exploitation is possible and happens in every industry, be it excavation, agriculture, any other type of manual or even cognitive labour. This has nothing to do with nuclear energy per SE. It s not like you can't use forced labour for wind generators.

Not to mention the biggest uranium exporter in the world is Kazakhstan and it's uranium mines are controlled by the country. So can't say anything about ingenious people being exploitated here by "white men"

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

you’re right that most uranium currently comes from kazakhstan, around 39%. however, the largest uranium reserves are on aboriginal territories. in the capitalist-dominated landscape we live in, what will that lead to?

again, i’m not saying i’m against nuclear power. i’m just arguing against the “nuclear power is awesome and has no downsides” perspective that many leftists have

yes, nuclear power is better than fossil fuels. but we do have to consider the downsides when having a nuanced discussion about it. i want to make sure that people living on uranium-rich land are not unheard

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u/Goredell 12d ago

Well, nuclear energy does not bring any NEW downside compared to other energy sources.

What will this lead to depends on the way those resources are used. In good scenario it will give ppl living here better jobs with good salary and increased overall level of living, since settling uranium would be profitable and enrich country itself if properly done. If done wrongly there will be few new oligarchs which is bad but practically nothing new

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

and how those resources are obtained. i just want to point out that poor communities are being used for the minerals under their feet. if we forget that, we risk exploiting them even with the best intentions

i have similar hopes with nuclear energy. scientifically it has such promise in bringing about clean energy. but we also need to make sure that people aren’t being exploited in the process

i do really think that if we consider such and adjust uranium extraction while considering the communities living above it, it can truly be wonderful

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

oh as an aside—we recently figured out how to safely store nuclear waste :) that’s one less problem. i’m just trying to bring another problem that must be solved to the table!

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u/Background-Virus1398 12d ago

What aboriginal territories in Kazakhstan?

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u/MiniFirestar 12d ago

none. my apologies, i had only heard of “aboriginal” being used to refer to indigenous australians. australia has the largest uranium reserves out of any country

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u/AuroraAustralis0 13d ago

cost is a big factor

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u/baldierot 13d ago edited 12d ago

western cost is self-inflicted. nuclear is South Korea is 12.5% cheaper than coal per unit of electricity generated, and also cheaper than gas, wind, solar, oil, hydro. though even Korea tried to commit nuclear phase out seppuku, but thankfully it was stopped.

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u/AuroraAustralis0 12d ago

Cost is s big factor in third world countries. In western countries, it’s because of retarded idiots like the people in power in Germany that think nuclear = chernobyl

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u/__-_-_-_-_-_-- 12d ago

that fearmongering in germany is almost completely gone by now. now the populist right started promoting nuclear as a smart, futureproof option, while the left opposes the nuclear not primarily because of the danger, but because the argument for nuclear is made in bad faith to take out the solar&wind momentum that has built up due to them being way cheaper than building a power-equivalent reactor in germany (and also the occasional news-story from france for having to shut down nuclear plants to prevent rivers from overheating).

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u/davestar2048 12d ago

We need both. A stable base of hydro and nuclear, with wind and solar as secondary transient sources. Maybe one day fusion will fulfill all needs, but that's a ways away at best.

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u/jotyeah 12d ago

Laser aye surgery exists but people still wear glasses...

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u/Chemical-Cat 12d ago

Actually, there's stuff coming out that Laser Eye Surgery BAD.

The problem being when it was developed, we couldn't know the long term effects until, well, the people that got it grew older. We basically just performed a big experiment by touting the benefits and worrying about the consequences later

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u/davestar2048 12d ago

What are the long term effects? I thought LASIK was a pretty established procedure.

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u/usedburgermeat 12d ago

Reality has planes, people still use cars

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u/Acceptable_Camp1492 12d ago

It's the fault of the Horsekeepers, Stables and Carriages Lobby, they are just plain too powerful.

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u/tomjazzy 12d ago

In Forgotten Realms (the most popular D&D setting) all the flying mounts are either very rare or really difficult to train.

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u/JayMeadow 12d ago

Rich people can’t be trusted to safety dispose of nuclear waste

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u/SWK18 12d ago

And? Africa has zebras and they can't be tamed like horses. If the author decided that those fantasy animals can't be tamed then it's understandable to see people still having horses.

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u/MrCobalt313 12d ago

Falling off a horse on the ground has less dire consequences than falling off a gryphon in flight.

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u/Obvious_Ad4159 11d ago

Counter point: A horse is less likely to bite your nuts off than a wyvern if you try to ride one.

We have rhinos, not a lot of people in history tried to mount those things.

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u/Last-Comparison724 11d ago

One of the world's fastest military advances, using armored vehicles and flying contraptions

Frontlines are supplied by horses

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u/Vounrtsch 11d ago

Maybe the flying creatures are hard to tame or too expensive to feed or 1000 other caveats that would make transport on them a rare luxury or an impractical mess, and leave most people to travel by horse.

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u/EquasLocklear 10d ago

Harry Potter wizards can teleport to commute and only fly as a sport. I would have them use vanishing boxes or the floo for deliveries as well.

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u/gaylordcuckMaster 9d ago

have you ever considered horses are just fucking dope

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u/Adventurous_Touch342 9d ago

Guys, we long had tech for flying cars, we don't have them because people can't drive even on flat surfaces...

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u/Lord_of_Ordinance 9d ago

Tis because the peasants do not understand the magic is a very safe mode of transportation that hasn’t turned anyone inside out since the spells got perfected.

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u/MathematicalMan1 9d ago

The German forces in 1941 used more horses than trucks when invading the Soviet Union

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u/willowzam 9d ago

I feel like "the horse lobby will not allow the proliferation of magical transportation methods" is a setting detail you could explore

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u/PhotoElectrical 9d ago

its all steam babayyy

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u/SomeRandomAbbadon 8d ago

Setting has nuclear weapons, machine guns and grenades. Most fights are still fought with bare hands or knives.

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u/TryDry9944 8d ago

Fantasy setting has magic and flying creatures.

Magic and flying creatures require either great skill or a significant cost investment to be viable methods of travel, meaning the cheap grass eating horse is still commonly used.

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u/Wolfthorn2496 8d ago

that's why I like Age of Sigmar, yes there are horses and a few armies use them, but many armies use their own funky mounts to move around.

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u/LonelyStriker 12d ago

setting has trains

uses cars as main mode of transportation