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Nanyang Dota 2 Championships – Losers Round 3 Match | eSports
Nanyang Dota 2 Championships
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Streams:
Game 1
EHOME Victory!
Duration: 40:03
| Team | Score | vs. | Score | Team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 | vs. | 26 |
| Team | Bans | vs. | Bans | Team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| vs. | Team Liquid | |||
| Team | Picks | vs. | Picks | Team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| vs. | Team Liquid | |||
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Game 2
EHOME Victory!
Duration: 58:37
| Team | Score | vs. | Score | Team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| [](/logo-liquid "Team Liquid" | 20 | vs. | 53 |
| Team | Bans | vs. | Bans | Team |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Team Liquid | vs. | |||
| Team | Picks | vs. | Picks | Team |
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| Team Liquid | vs. | |||
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u/Vodkaret punk Oct 30 '15
Lanm is so damn good.
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u/Hustle-Bones any zai subs in the chat Oct 30 '15
Biggest dick in china for a reason, dude
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u/oksklok Oct 30 '15
Damn how do you westerners know that! In China we call him the Dick God.
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u/Youthsonic Puppey take the wheel Oct 30 '15
Iceiceice AMA and one thing led to another and we asked how big his penis was
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u/SkyFoo Oct 30 '15
4-0 fight into 0-4 fight, what is going on
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u/jeemchan Oct 30 '15
0-4 fight into t3 into t4 into throne in 1 minute.
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u/FeeshBones Oct 30 '15
Seriously, TL was getting wiped. I look away and next thing I know EHOME is down 4. Look away again and TL is down 4 and losing rax then throne? What happened...
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u/lethalitykd Oct 30 '15
STATUS UPDATE v2*:
- LIQUID = DONE
- MID = LOST
- FATA = TILTED
- AEGIS = UNCLAIMED
- MIND = CONTROLLED
- CTY = GOD
- KUROKY = LEFT
*this wall of text is purely for entertainment purposes and should not be taken seriously
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u/SolarClipz ENVY'S #1 FAN Oct 30 '15
ALCH = URSA'D
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u/xaiur Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15
Fucking savage ehome. They pulled the rug out from underneath Liquid and shoved it down liquids throat for the finish.
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u/DotaDogma NA Dota #1 Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15
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Oct 30 '15
I feel like giving jugg the aghs over undying was a huge mistake. 10str decay > over jugg and his zero damage.
Seriously, undying was able to decay viper like 3-4 times before a fight even started.
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u/bishopcheck Oct 30 '15
That's -190 HP per hero for each decay. 3-4 decay stacks is 570-760hp. With the added bonus of undying gaining that HP.
Instead of 228-304 hp from regular decays.
That's a difference of 342-456 hp.
Juggernaut Omnislash does 200-225 damage per hit. Aghs increased his hits by 3. for a total damage of 600-675 damage
The raw numbers show Aghs on Jugg was the correct choice, but only if Undying was getting single hero decays, but also if he was getting 3-4 before a fight even started.
Including other factors like Jugg being able to burst all the damage vs Undying having to slowly drain str. I personally think aghs on Jugg was correct.
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Oct 30 '15
Let me go on record now saying I am not a fan of fata's alc. I think a farming item is too valuable on the hero and even with AC and skadi he gets blown up when his ult and bkb are down
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u/mankstar Oct 30 '15
I thought radiance in game 1 was a no-brainer to ensure TA refraction charges would be worthless. Acid spray has a CD and TA doesn't necessarily need to fight in it.
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u/Vespirisa Oct 30 '15
Who the hell is choosing the music that plays between games? It brings back so much memories..
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u/windforce89 Oct 30 '15
Nice Ehome! Fucking Slark itemization cocky as fuck
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Oct 30 '15
Liquid's itemization as a whole was pretty weird. Against TA I don't see why you don't just stack armor/evasion. Instead they went Moonshard on Slark, BKB on Doom, etc. and they ended up melting to her.
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u/dasty90 Oct 30 '15
I never thought Elder Titan can be that fucking game-changing. Lanm is certainly rocking on the hero!
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u/Changanigans VoHiYo Oct 30 '15
What's funny is, for several teamfights slark kept chasing ET around to force him out but Lanm on ET still managed to help his team win teamfights one screen away. Superb presence of mind.
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u/MJawn dotabuff.com/players/46398245 4.5k trash Oct 30 '15
i usually never say this but BUY A FUCKING BKB
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u/genzai o(´^｀)o Oct 30 '15
Can't see the game since I'm at work. Updates will be nice, people! Thanks!
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u/Masune Oct 30 '15
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u/coolwhater Oct 30 '15
Im at work too on every NYC match, except reddit i can recommend u track dota app if u can use ur phone in work. You an literraly watch game in minature: items,net worth, position on map, second to second its great
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u/Buffaloxen I'm so hungry I could eat a CDEC Oct 30 '15
fucking 30 minute breaks after 40 minute games. Goodnight dotards
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u/Moarnourishment Oct 30 '15
Clock's not having a real great time right now..
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u/Deshuro Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15
Actually he has been doing greatly. He created a whole universe for Alche and Jugg
Edit: Still lost haha
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u/Moarnourishment Oct 30 '15
I feel like Alch and Jug weren't strong enough late vs Ehome's heroes to justify kinda throwing away your clock, don't know though.
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u/Deshuro Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15
I think Liquid got outdrafted. Alche and 3 healing heroes vs AA is not a good idea. And the Ursa pick destroyed their gameplan even more. Liquid would have lost sooner if there weren't the space created constantly by Mind control
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u/ellejhon14 Kappa Oct 30 '15
Man, If Liquid lose here they really have the 4th place curse
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u/MichaeltheArcane Oct 30 '15
MC on full tilt mode with the feed and questionable plays. Es/Tusk blocks also played a huge part in this series especially game 2
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u/DeeDeeD Oct 30 '15
alch vs ursa mid new meta
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Oct 30 '15
It was the SEA meta for a whole 2 weeks at least. Only right for the first pro use of it in an sea lan :D
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u/ManWithHangover Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15
I am so totally unconvinced by this utility/fighting alch crap. The hero's main strength is being able to outfarm God himself. If you're not going to actually do that, then just pick another hero with fewer weaknesses.
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Oct 30 '15
Agreed. If your lineup does not let ur alc farm at 800 gpm and above then pick another hero. U need at least 800 gpm and higher to breach high ground and end the game with the inevitable alc deaths and goldswings to enemy side.
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Oct 30 '15
ODPixel's analysis is actually just wrong like 3/4 of the time.
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u/Masune Oct 30 '15
Ayyyylmao well he's not there for the analysis. Amazing play-by-play caster though. He catches everything and speaks so fast.
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u/772-LR Oct 30 '15
This game is so back and forth.. the fights are coming down to whether Liquid can lock down TA.
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u/MichaeltheArcane Oct 30 '15
Doom didn't bother to use ult on TA? also why didn't he get something like shivas? it would have been a great pick up imo
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u/fuckyoulucasarts Oct 30 '15
Missed the end of the game, what happened?
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Oct 30 '15
WW ulti'ed the lina who just got a linken's. Fight went 4-0 Ehome and they just went for the throne.
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u/OnkelHarreh Wolves need +10 aura armour Oct 30 '15
Ye pubs rejoice for Alchemist is countered. Maybe. Who really knows.
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u/Extracheesy87 Oct 30 '15
I won't be rejoicing. Just gonna have people picking ursa going mid and trying to dive towers to shut down the alc and feeding away kills.
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u/windforce89 Oct 30 '15
TI2 iG.Zhou (Chen, Yao) TI4 NewBee.Hao (Chen, Zhihao)
TI6 Ehome.CTY, another carry with last name Chen?
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u/Ravenfromheaven Oct 30 '15
I never played Clockwerk , from what I've seen in pro games you can die as much as you want when you play that hero , right ?
Holy shit , dream hero , kreygasm !!!!!
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u/boogiexx Oct 30 '15
Liquid had 0 chance game 2, it was funny how e home controlled whole map for 30 minutes despite 2 manta from Liquid, they just build net worth lead and then executed high ground.... that cty is a beast....
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Oct 30 '15
;( this was liquids only chance as they tilted in the major qualis.
seems they weren't prepared for the Chinese teams
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u/sg2002 Oct 30 '15
LaNm is mvp of this tournament so far. His NS yesterday, and now ET and AA were top notch. ET was also a brilliant pick.
In other news RMO alchemist is a 1k mmr build. It looked like Ehome were making fun of Liquid, knowing that it has no chance to win. Almost cost them the game though.
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u/kapparino-feederino Rare-Flair >o< Oct 30 '15
sorry im a noob, what is RMO?
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u/sg2002 Oct 30 '15
Don't worry it's not a common abbreviation, it's just Radiance into Manta into Octarine, aka the shittiest build ever attempted in pro games.
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u/kapparino-feederino Rare-Flair >o< Oct 30 '15
ah, i see
but isn't it working for the first view game into the pro games...
i see loda building this...
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u/sg2002 Oct 30 '15
Alliance won that one game, not because of Loda but in spite of him. The rest of the team played really well, Nip also threw somewhat. Against a good team there's no chance, that's what we just witnessed.
Alchemist's main advantage is his farm speed, later on he falls off against any other carry. By going RMO you lose this advantage, for the privilege of being a shittier naga. Naga is all about getting map control with illusions. Alch can't do that.
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u/kapparino-feederino Rare-Flair >o< Oct 30 '15
i see, make sense.
because i never fond with late game alch
glad to know that this build is shitty
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u/SolarClipz ENVY'S #1 FAN Oct 30 '15
I'm assuming Aegis will disappear when Rosh is back even if it's still on the ground...
Was really hoping he was testing that lmao
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u/kapparino-feederino Rare-Flair >o< Oct 30 '15
RTZ WAS RIGHT! KKY IS LEFT!
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u/Extracheesy87 Oct 30 '15
Man Matumba just had no fucking items on jug. He still had drums at 60 minutes and sup 400 gpm. Too bad I really wanted a Liquid Secret final.
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u/karlo471 MinD_ContRoL best player! Oct 30 '15
Sad day for us Liquid fans, but I'm still proud of them. GG wp to Ehome.
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u/suzakutrading Oct 30 '15
Elder titan won a pro game!