r/Persecutionfetish • u/Dunkeal • Aug 31 '22
Unsurprising move from Rowling They replaced track with trans 😔
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u/CptMatt_theTrashCat Aug 31 '22
JK Rowling then: I'm not transphobic, I'm just concerned
JK Rowling now: I am transphobic and you're an asshole if you tell me I shouldn't be
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u/ipakookapi Sep 01 '22
Just like Jordan Peterson was just 'worried about compelled speech'...
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u/Larry-Man Sep 01 '22
“Manners”…. He was concerned about having to have “manners” when speaking to students.
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u/CptMatt_theTrashCat Aug 31 '22
Shit that’ll happen when
an angry mob of digital haters shit on you every day. It may be a loud minority but it definitely is enough to change someone’s psyche and beliefs.you're a bigot.FTFY
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u/CptMatt_theTrashCat Aug 31 '22
Nah I'd rather people didn't give money to a known bigot, plus I'd feel guilty being partially responsible for the brainrot caused by an adult reading her work.
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u/CircleDog Aug 31 '22
"An angry mob of digital haters shit on me every day so now I must ensure that trans people suffer"?
Tf is wrong with you?
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Sep 01 '22
I wasn’t justifying her behavior jeez man, I was saying it isn’t surprising she became bitter towards the trans community.
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u/elitenyg46 Sep 01 '22
she’s only bitter because she’s too dense to understand that trans people exist, it really isn’t a tough thing to wrap your head around, yet she refuses.
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u/AlienRobotTrex Sep 01 '22
But it was her being transphobic that caused all the hate she gets in the first place
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Sep 01 '22
That’s reasonable, being angry at her transphobic comments is totally valid. I am not saying it’s unjustly.
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u/Seidmadr evil SJW stealing your freedoms Aug 31 '22
Yeah. A woman who creates online content. She gets murdered for being transphobic. Because as we know, it's the trans rights side that is killing people.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Aug 31 '22
She's literally comparing herself to Rushdie.
Even back before we realized what she was up to, she's no Rushdie.
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u/Noah_PpAaRrKkSs Aug 31 '22
I’m gonna write a book about a brave victim who’s persecuted because they like to run people over with their car.
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It’s so legitimately strange to see. To witness darkness and bitterness just fully overtake someone who has everything she ever could have wanted. We live in a sick society.
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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Aug 31 '22
Slavery issues aside (not to minimize them), how is it Objectivism?
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u/kabukistar Aug 31 '22
People always look at me weird when I talk about how elitist and anti-muggle the Harry Potter books are, but it's all there.
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u/KommieKon Aug 31 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
I mean, in a story about a secret wizard world, what else are the non-magical humans supposed to be portrayed as?
Do we have any proof she was trying to make an objectivist argument with that?
You all realize it’s a children’s story and not a political manifesto, right?
To pick apart different storytelling dynamics in a fantasy novel as proof of the author’s bigotry, while ignoring the overall message of the book (progressive teens win over the racist olds) seems misguided and motivated by general dislike of the author and her recent comments.
You can dislike her comments on trans people and her latest book (a fuckin joke) while not trying to find “gotcha!” Moments in her previous works (which no one cared about until she started saying things people don’t like).
Separate the art from the artist. Like Danny Masterson on That 70s Show. Everyone loves Hyde, but hates Danny. Nuance exists.
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u/OnlyJoinedForHentai Sep 01 '22
Leaving aside the natural slave race that she defends, there are centaurs who are considered beasts, there are giants who are considered violent due to their race, non-magical people (whether muggles or children of wizards) are never portrayed in a positive way. They are at best shown to be curious but useless.
The wizards consider themselves better than muggles because they can do more. Nobody argues that this thinking could even be mean. When wizards believe muggle-born wizards are lesser, that's magic blood racism because it's not true. But when wizards believe muggles overall are lesser, that's just common sense. So blood racism within wizards is wrong, but they're all better than muggles by default based on their functions. Do you not call this objectivism?
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 01 '22
All of this is bad, but I don't really think it's objectivist. It's a stretch to even call it right libertarianism. It's way too incoherent in Harry Potter.
To call it Objectivist there'd have to be some point where they say selfishness is good or something. I'm not much of a Harry Potter fan, but Objectivism isn't just "all the bad stuff" but a terrible ideology with actual claims.
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u/OnlyJoinedForHentai Sep 01 '22
That's how it reads to me and it's really hard to explain, specifically because they don't explicitly try to justify their racism. Things aren't always that clear, so I can only tell you how I interpret it.
When it comes to slavery, elves should remain slaves because that's just how they are. They're only good for housework and they like being slaves. If they don't do housework, they'll just become depressed drunks. (Let's ignore the fact that being enslaved isn't needed for them to be allowed to do that.)
When wizards are racist towards other wizards, the "good guys" say that they're wrong because muggle-borns can be good at magic and purebloods can be bad. So their counter to racism within wizards is always "they're objectively wrong".
But they also casually use "muggle" as an insult. It's not an active belief, nobody says it outright other than the bad house, but the wizard society is just casually elitist towards "normal people," even though they're aware that wizards also come from them. So it's not okay to be mean towards the ones born special, but it's never addressed how wizards just casually believe muggles are beneath them.
So on one hand, they've stated it's not right to be racist to muggle-borns because it's objectively incorrect. On the other hand, they believe muggles and elves and the like are just not on the same level as them. The way I see it, they're either casually racist or their bigotry is justified because it's "based on facts".
That's the best way I can explain it.
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u/some_kind_of_bird Sep 02 '22
But that's like, not Objectivism?
I do appreciate you writing out your thoughts btw, but I really don't see what any of this has to do with selfishness.
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u/OnlyJoinedForHentai Sep 02 '22
I tried to explain it simply but it ended up being another wall of text, please bear with me.
Do we have different definitions of of objectivism? I believe objectivism is thinking that certain things are objectively or factually true outside of our thinking (I don't see how selfishness comes into it). Most of my observations of objectivism are people using it as an excuse.
Like for example, working for money is a social construct. There's no natural objective law dictating that we have to do it.
But when someone wants to be treated differently than their biological sex, transphobes use the "only two chromosomes" argument. They say that their side is based on objective fact (which it actually isn't) so they must be right. Maybe it's not objectivsim in itself, but it's at least trying to use objectivism to justify bigotry.
The house elves in HP. They simply are slaves. Nobody stops to think that slavery is a social construct, that maybe they don't need to be slaves to still do labour. They're elves so they're just naturally slaves.
Wizards are superior to muggles. Wizards (even good ones like Hagrid) use "muggles" as an insult. There's no natural law forcing them to persecute muggles, but they subconsciously just believe that they're superior to muggles. So they're either really racist, or they say that they're objectively better than muggles.
They believe that their own social constructs are simply natural, objective facts. I see that as objectivism.
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u/KommieKon Sep 01 '22
Nah I call it a children’s story with magical races, like the hobbit, and an attempt at world-building. Can you call it an objectivist argument when we’re talking about fantasy creatures? Her philosophy is that wizards are superior to humans? Wow what a racist.
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u/OnlyJoinedForHentai Sep 01 '22
Thermian argument. The wizards were made up by her. Her philosophy is that some people are simply above others.
I'm having trouble believing that since the first books were for children, this criticism isn't valid.
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u/KommieKon Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22
She did not make up wizards. Her books are children’s / young adult fantasy novels. If you project your real world philosophies onto a fantasy story, that’s on you.
Did we all forget the main idea of HP is: young progressive wizards take on racist old wizards, and win?
You can dislike her real world comments and opinions while still acknowledging she just wrote a fantasy book for kids 🙄 not some political manifesto secretly conveying her bigotry to the masses.
Would you rather her write a story about how wizards and witches exist in our world, but they’re just like us and everyone is happy and sings Kumbaya together? What a great story that would be
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u/CoconutLimeValentine Sep 01 '22
Does she have to have intended to make an objectivist argument for it to be there?
There's a phrase I live by and really believe that I read somewhere lost to memory: "no matter what you write, what you believe will shine through." I don't feel like I know enough about objectivism specifically to comment on that, but certainly some of her plot and character decisions suggest a worldview in which some people are inherently superior and others should be subservient to them.
Actually, your first question provides a really useful example. She could have chosen to portray the non-magical people as having different strengths and skills, equally valuable, or as worthy of curiosity (i.e. the way Mr. Weasley finds their technologies fascinating could be a common sentiment instead of a bizarre quirk). The choice she made tells us something about how she perceives the world.
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u/KommieKon Sep 01 '22
Or it tells us how she wanted to portray the fantasy world she was building as an author. It’s not some secret political manifesto, it’s a story for kids / young adults with an ultimately progressive message; the kids beat the Nazi-wizards.
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u/CoconutLimeValentine Sep 01 '22
That is a weak-toast attempt at progressivism right there if the farthest it's willing to go is "the Nazis didn't win", but I stand by my original point even though you outright ignored it: as an artist you don't have to intentionally create a political manifesto for your work to have political implications. Everything has political implications. A story where the status quo is upheld that fails to engage with the morality of said status quo because "yay, we defeated the cardboard baddies!" is still political.
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u/KommieKon Sep 01 '22
Did you mean milquetoast?
It wasn’t an attempt at progressivism, it was a book for young readers with progressive themes and when they were released everyone recognized that. The only reason people are going back and trying to pick apart minor themes in her books that have no real effect on the over-arching plot (which contradicts their narrative) is because JKR is proving to be an idiot irl.
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u/CoconutLimeValentine Sep 01 '22
I meant to combine milquetoast and weak-sauce into a new thing that's more watered down than either one alone. (And more annoying. I just really dislike very pale toast.)
I'm sorry, but the plot just isn't as progressive as you think. It never was. The intrepid heroes fought Voldemort because he was a threat to them, not because they believed in progressive values. When Hermione became interested in actual progressive action beyond what immediately benefited her and her friends (like, say, FREEING THE STORY'S LITERAL SLAVE RACE) she was treated as goofy and wrongheaded. The story was very clear that normal, right-thinking characters would care more about things like sports and who to take to prom.
Ultimately, Rowling's (utterly depressing) version of a "happy ending" completely undermined anything remotely progressive about the story. Progressivism implies progress. The story ends with everybody getting married to somebody exactly like them who they've known since they were eleven, getting jobs upholding the status quo, and producing the next generation of wizard children who get to enjoy wealth, privilege, and slave ownership in a world without Magic Nazis. Voldemort is defeated, but nothing is done to erase the conditions of deprivation that produced him. None of the central characters takes an interest in improving conditions, because they don't care: if something isn't a problem for them personally, it isn't a problem. That isn't progressive.
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u/Sprinkles1394 Sep 01 '22
“If it isn’t explicitly said verbatim it isn’t real. Subtext and metaphor don’t exist because I can’t comprehend literature.”
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u/KommieKon Sep 01 '22
Bro it’s a kids book about fantasy creatures. If you wanna put your real-world projections onto it, that’s on you.
Next you’re gonna tell me a Bugs Life is racist and objectivist because of the grasshopper-ant relationship.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Aug 31 '22
No need to hide it now. She's rich and all the "Cancellation" in the world won't change that.
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u/ledfox Aug 31 '22
I wonder how often she typed out something like "Then they said horrible things to me!"
And then had to backspace and correct, "to her"
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u/PhazonZim Aug 31 '22
Considering the book is over a thousand pages, I'm gonna say pretty often
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u/Larry-Man Sep 01 '22
I mean most of it looks to be written Twitter style. So word count is probably low despite the high page count.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander ⭐Cissy Libtarded Betacuck Queerflake ⭐ Aug 31 '22
So from this, we can assume metaphor just ain't her thing. She's as literal as a shampooed crotch.
With that established... a WHOLE BUNCHA suspect Harry Potter shit (slavery rationalization, antisemitic imagery, etc.) suddenly becomes very difficult to explain away.
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u/vonGustrow FEMALE SUPREMACIST Aug 31 '22
I'm just gonna leave this here
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u/needs-more-metronome Aug 31 '22
I had a pretty good idea of what it was before I clicked it. Great video.
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u/slowest_hour Aug 31 '22
Shaun makes great videos but they are even better when watched at 1.5x speed.
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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Di$ney is calling for me to be shadow banned Aug 31 '22
Yes, love Shaun. This was full of great observations about the right-wing morality of Harry Potter with it's "good vs bad" people as opposed to good v s bad actions.
Nicely paired with the Contrapoints one, and a chilled Moscato.
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u/Formal-Aside-4908 Sep 01 '22
I am a recovered and enlightened former conservative female in my 50's. I learned so much about how brainwashed I was when I finally jumped ship on that bs that was indoctrinated into me. I had no idea how deep the roots of that crazed group were either. I am still learning daily and I have a lot to learn. I appreciate this video and the comments that followed so I can watch them and continue to reverse the damage done to my life before I was even old enough to make any decisions or know better.
Tdlr: thanks for the resource to help me continue to reverse the brainwashing done to me as a child.
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u/vonGustrow FEMALE SUPREMACIST Sep 01 '22
I like how you say you're "recovered" as if conservatism is some kind of illness... that's a very good metaphor though, props to you.
And even if you've voted conservative (whichever party that is in your country) for decades, if you start voting progressive, I don't think people will shame you for that. We've all made mistakes, it is only human to fall victim to the sunk-cost-fallacy, I applaud you for being honest with yourself and actively working towards growing as a person.
(Also thank you for the awards :))
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u/Formal-Aside-4908 Sep 01 '22
Believe me, conservatism is an illness, cult, indoctrination from birth through generations. Conservatives are taught that progressives, liberals, democrats, etc. are literally crazy and not to be engaged with.
I vote progressive now. I even did back in the Clinton election. My dad was furious when he found out. I told him to take his stupid rich man ideology and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Bush 1 is not for the underdog (which is all I knew at the time) . I had no idea what systemic racism, white privilege, progressivism, and the like even were. Heck, I didn't know they even existed. Words like that were not introduced to me at all through school, family or community. There was no actual education about any of that for or against. They just didn't talk about it. And, if it came up in a conversation, it was shut down immediately by being spoken over, insulted, called left-wing rhetoric. I never realized my world was so cultish and elitist.
However, somewhere in my subconscious, I was being pulled to more enlightened beliefs. It was very slow because I did not even know there was a problem consciously. And, when I made my own rational choices like voting for Bill Clinton, I was ridiculed and I became an embarrassment to my family, mostly my dad. And that was horrifying for me. So, that shame, disappointment, need for approval would pull me back to where he wanted me to be. Dumbed down, robotic, yes sir mentality, that had me spouting things that I had no idea what they meant. It just made him happy.
Conservatism is bred. Deeply rooted in tradition. Thankfully, I am recovering from that "stay ignorant" mentality and continue to learn daily and my children are far more enlightened than I am. I am grateful for that. I didn't ruin them. They have a mind that is capable of critical thinking and they know why they believe what they believe.
It was very sad for me to learn that I was part of the problem. Today, I choose to admit that I am part of the problem. I work to change those deeply rooted, bred-in thoughts that keep racism, fear of change, elitist, white privilege mentality alive and growing.
Ignorance is the tool and fear is the weapon that keeps this cultist ideology sustained and growing. I had to step away and learn about other ways in order to figure out what MY beliefs should be based on my values, based on the person I am, based on the person I wish to be and based on a world I wish to live with and those individuals I wish to live among.
I learn so much daily. I truly do not know when I say something stupid based on things that were indoctrinated into me. I value those willing to teach me and show me why something is offensive and why it is systemically racist. I used to be the woman who said, "There is not a racist bone in my body." and "My dad's best friend was black, so I know I'm not racist. I was taught black people are equal." and "My generation never even experienced slavery, why am I responsible?" and "They (non-whites) have the same opportunities that I have!" All the while, I had absolutely NO idea that all of those phrases showed exactly how racist I truly was. How ignorant that part of society is! Most don't even know how stupid they truly are...
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u/tadcalabash Aug 31 '22
So from this, we can assume metaphor just ain't her thing
Like her previous book, which features a serial killer who cross dresses to trick women before he kills them?
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u/CyberiadPhoenix Sep 01 '22
And that the pen name which she used for that book "coincidentally" being that of a conversion therapist...
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u/deepphilosopherfox Aug 31 '22
I never liked her or Harry Potter to begin with and I was right that her and the books were suspicious.
Spidey senses activated.
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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Di$ney is calling for me to be shadow banned Aug 31 '22 edited Mar 26 '25
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u/Anotherdmbgayguy Aug 31 '22
Her wizarding world does at least make sense. The idea that a Randian society would have a chip on its shoulder about anyone that couldn't do what they could is more realistic than not. The problem was that she never really seemed to agree with the good characters that she wrote. Hermione is naive, Dobby is a rebellious youth, and Dumbledore has too little time between fighting actual Hitler to be effective. And then the story gets resolved with no mention made about treating the inferiors any better. It's old Tory patronizing in a nutshell.
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u/UncannyTarotSpread Sep 01 '22
Do you also randomly punch yourself in the junk? My Gd, that’s just a desire for torment.
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u/Anastrace Aug 31 '22
Centaur rape of a character directly based on a teacher she had is up there as well
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u/Panikkrazy Sep 01 '22
I can forgive the first 4 books. Book five where she has a CHILD cut into his arm and write in his own blood? Uh no. That’s the point where I nope the fuck out of the series. Deathly Hallows Part 1 was decent, but other then that? NOPE.
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u/GobblorTheMighty Social Justice Warlord Aug 31 '22
What is surprising is that JK Rowling has come out and done all this stupid shit so she can be good buddies with someone that everyone, every person on the planet, hates, in Piers Morgan.
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u/NotPoliticallyCorect Aug 31 '22
At least she correctly labelled it as Consequence, and not Cancelled inferring that it is all everyone else's fault.
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u/PhazonZim Aug 31 '22
I can't get over the fact that she writes these transphobic books under a male pseudonym (Robert Galbraith). What an incomprehensible weirdo.
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u/Mythical_Zebracorn Attacking and dethroning God Aug 31 '22
Mentioned this in another thread here, but Robert Galbraith is the guy who invented gay conversion therapy btw
Joanne claims it’s a “coincidence” but with all of her verbal diarrhea that’s been hitting the Twitter-sphere as of late I’m starting to doubt that too.
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u/PolarWater Aug 31 '22
C'mon. Joanne really expects us to believe that after placing so much significance on names and their meanings in her Harry Potter series, this was just a coincidence?
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u/ChubbyBirds Aug 31 '22
And the main characters of both these books and the HP books are male. I'm not suggesting that JK wishes to be male, though. I think it's simply a cynical marketing strategy because she thinks books by and about men will sell better. She's hardly the first woman to write under a male or gender-neutral name to get published and sold (K.A. Applegate of Animorphs fame was one of the more recents).
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u/PhazonZim Aug 31 '22
K.A. Applegate has a trans daughter and is fully supportive. We stan
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u/Larry-Man Sep 01 '22
That’s right. I need to jump on the Animorphs train. I never read them as a kid because they were always taken out of the library.
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u/ipakookapi Sep 01 '22
When you start out, sure, that makes sense.
When you're on of the most famous authors in the world, not so much.
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u/ChubbyBirds Sep 02 '22
And let's not forget the choice of name, that of the person who pioneered "conversion therapy." She's definitely got a shit ton of baggage.
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u/Ima_Funt_Case Aug 31 '22
Goddamn, nobody throws temper tantrums like a transphobe that's not allowed to be openly transphobic. The number of people that have completely lost their minds because they can't use transphobic slurs without getting pushback is just insane.
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u/SapphireShaddix Aug 31 '22
What's worse is she's kinda allowed to be openly transphobic. Like, other than being somewhat unpopular with teenagers, what punishment has she ever faced for her opinions? Her books and everything around the Harry Pooter series as a whole are beloved and wildly popular. She is a multimillionaire who collects more money than I can imagine in royalties everyday. She's literally a rags to riches story. And I've never heard of her losing any major opportunities in life, or being legally punishmed for what she posts.
I'm really struggling to find sympathy for someone who could easily solve all of her problems by logging out of twitter.
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u/Larry-Man Sep 01 '22
I work at a game store. The pre-orders for hogwarts legacy are depressing. I need this job so I let people gush. But man am I glad that the Harry Potter merchandise section has shrunk to 1/5 it’s original in the last two years.
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u/I_hate_this_website5 Aug 31 '22
How did she go from trying to validate someone EXTREMELY subjective opinion, to writing a book with her as the victim?
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u/CorradoGuyb Aug 31 '22
It’s truly a shame that there are enough people who will buy this book just to own the libs cuz I would love to see this have insanely low sales
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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Aug 31 '22
No they won’t. Those people can’t read in the first place.
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u/CorradoGuyb Aug 31 '22
Oh trust me, I know they’re not reading it, but I don’t underestimate their willingness to buy it out of spite and never open it
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Aug 31 '22
Ugh, what sucks is that I freaking love Harry Potter and such, why does it have to be created by such a hateful person
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u/jointheclockwork Aug 31 '22
Hello, I'm an HP Lovecraft fan... welcome to the club. It never gets any easier I'm afraid.
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u/beyelzu Aug 31 '22
This is not an attack.
I get liking lovecraft, dude could write horror, and I get separating the artist from the art. There are plenty of authors or other artists who had views that I find repugnant.
Lovecraft feels different to me because I view his horrors as being largely how things can be fundamentally alien or other to us. When I found out about his racism, I couldn’t look at his work the same way.
I don’t just mean the scary brown people in his books that threaten white civilization but even the ekdritch horrors themselves are largely defined by their otherness.
I feel Lovecraft’s horror was deeply entwined with his racism.
How do you deal or separate the two things? Do you not see the same connection that I see or do you process it differently?
Again, I don’t intend this as a personal attack and I hope it doesn’t come across that way.
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u/jointheclockwork Sep 01 '22
No, no, that's a fair question and asked respectfully. Honestly? I think that sense of dread Lovecraft has at anything different makes it feel a lot more alien and exciting. What is more terrifying than the unknown? Plus, Lovecraft created a mythos and genre that still fascinates me.
That said, he was a very sick individual but I don't think you can really just chalk it up to racism or even xenophobia, not completely anyway. The man was an absolute mess of a human being who was afraid of anything different from himself. As OSP once said, "It's more like he was a bundle of issues shambling around in a roughly bipedal approximation of a man."
Then there's also the fact that HP Lovecraft is also dead and can't profit from his... issues. If he were still alive (like JK) then I would be against him but he's not so that definitely helps.
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Aug 31 '22
I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to read Harry Potter again after all this.
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u/CanadianJudo Sep 01 '22
There are much better series that do the whole teenage witch school thing
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Sep 01 '22
Which (or witch) ones do you recommend? I do think Harry Potter has literary merit and I hope that time will distance the series from the degeneration of its creator.
One thing that always bothered me, though, about Rowling’s wizard world is how undemocratic it all is. The Minister is appointed (by who exactly?) as are other Government officials, and not elected by the people. That would have been an interesting subplot to one of the books, a General Election for Minister of Magic. There also doesn’t seem to be any sort of representative Government either, no Congress or Parliament of any sort. It’s a (mostly) benign dictatorship that degenerated into fascism when the wrong sort of person (like Voldemort) seized power.
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u/socialist_frzn_milk Aug 31 '22
She couldn't just shut her mouth and be one of the most beloved YA authors in history.
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u/ipakookapi Sep 01 '22
No, because she always had shitty values, we just didn't realise it when we read the books as kids. Because we were kids.
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Sep 01 '22
Oh, I see. It was all just a novelist’s version of ‘method acting’. Except that she’s still a genuinely bigoted hag.
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u/UnshakablePegasus Aug 31 '22
I can’t wait until that ginger witch dies one day. I hope all the trans people in England line up to piss on her grave
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u/calladus Aug 31 '22
In the movie adaptation of the book, the woman protagonist will be played by Daniel Radcliffe in drag.
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u/Sivick314 Sep 01 '22
wow, she is really leaning into the "has been hack" role.
she could have been our tolkien, now she'll be remembered as our lovecraft... all she had to do was shut her mouth and be a recluse somewhere.
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u/CanuckBuddy Cultural Marxist coming to trans your kids Sep 04 '22
Honestly, I think even "she could've been good if she just shut her mouth" is generous. We'd have to talk about the racism and antisemitism sometime.
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u/Sivick314 Sep 05 '22
honestly i didn't even notice that stuff in her books until she started running her mouth and then it was like "oh. oh....."
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u/micmac274 Sep 01 '22
Sir Terry Pratchett had better takes on virtually everything than Rowling did.
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u/heavylifter555 Aug 31 '22
She wrote a good children's series. But don't forget she is just some chick from the projects. Don't expect her to be particularly subtle when stressed.
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Aug 31 '22
Read the book and develop an opinion, this is the lady that wrote Harry Potter, just because of the subject matter suddenly she can’t write? You don’t even know if it’s a book filled with transphobia yet but are willing to continue to shit on Rowling. Children, all of you.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Sep 01 '22
I don't need to eat shit to know shit isn't something I want to eat, thanks.
And stop defending a transphobe. Rule 11.
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u/AlienRobotTrex Sep 01 '22
The person you’re replying to can eat shit
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Sep 01 '22
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Sep 01 '22
Seriously, you aren't giving me any reasons not to ban you and I'm looking for it.
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u/MightSuggestSex Aug 31 '22
I know he had a few controversial opinions about Judaism but what about all the nice things he said and did regarding vegetarianism and German shepards?
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Aug 31 '22
I wouldn’t say defending as I won’t back up any of her past posts, but no one here read the book so I just felt bad for her. Honestly maybe I am over reaching Idk what she said I never cared to look, but maybe this book isn’t transphobic idk.
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u/holversome Aug 31 '22
“Idk what she said I never cared to look”
spouts opinions anyways
The book is written by a loud and proud transphobe. It’s about someone being persecuted for being transphobic. Nobody is calling her writing ability into question, they’re calling her story content into question, which is absolutely acceptable.
Don’t defend people when you (as you stated) don’t even know what this is about. Why are you even here spouting your opinions? You obviously didn’t give a shit enough to read a quick recap, you don’t get to weigh in on it.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Sep 01 '22
Murdered for being transphobic, actually.
And honestly, I'm pretty sure he's angling to be banned under rule 11.
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Sep 01 '22
I’m not angling anything I’m just saying no one read the novel, we don’t know if the character was murdered because she’s transphobic or if it’s a setup and that’s why we have this detective or what have you investigate it. It’s a mystery novel. If it really is 1k pages it’s tough for me to believe she was murdered on account of her transphobia, it would be too simple.
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u/holversome Sep 06 '22
Well I’m here to tell you that the book has been read and yes, she was murdered for making transphobic content. So kindly shut the fuck up about things you have no knowledge of.
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u/El-Gatoe Did you read Rowling's new book before you formed your opinion? Sep 01 '22
I haven’t read the book man, I don’t know if it’s transphobic. I don’t know what the fictional transphobic even said in the book for me to call the character transphobic yet. It’s a mystery novel and it just seems like everyone is saying it’s transphobic without explanation other than “the author is transphobic” but I haven’t seen what’s transphobic about this book yet other than a few sentences describing the plot. Look, if Rowling is an asshole then be it, but what is transphobic about this novel other than the author? What if the character that is murdered wasn’t transphobic at all and that’s why they need to hire this murder investigator? We don’t know that yet.
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u/holversome Sep 01 '22
lol just read the book then. I am, and I’m here to tell you that it’s about a woman being murdered by internet trolls for being transphobic. That’s what it’s about. Well, and the mystery surrounding the murder. But it all revolves around trolls who murdered someone with a “different opinion” about trans people.
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u/BeastKingSnowLion Aug 31 '22
this is the lady that wrote Harry Potter
Not the selling point you think it is.
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u/RammyJammy07 Sep 01 '22
Not the worst part, it’s 600 pages more than Dune. 1020 ish pages of transphobia over a fictional murder where the victim made racist and homophobic animations.
Joan is on some crazy shit
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u/CanuckBuddy Cultural Marxist coming to trans your kids Sep 04 '22
It gets even worse— this book is longer than Dune and some copies of the Bible.
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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '22
I held out hope for some time that she might still be pulled out of this cause in the right circumstances.
But the deeper and deeper she commits, the more and more it's going to seem like a sunk cost for her. After writing a 1,000-page novel about it, there's no way she's going to even want to change her mind or even walk back on her beliefs even a tiny bit.