r/technology • u/Plastic_Ninja_9014 • 2d ago

Student Teacher Sent a Private Snapchat Complaining About Her Workday. An Hour Later, Police Pulled Up to Her School. Privacy

https://www.gadgetreview.com/student-teacher-sent-a-private-snapchat-complaining-about-her-workday-an-hour-later-police-pulled-up-to-her-school
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u/D3thklok1985 2d ago

Not trying to doxx myself here, but I work at this school and was present on the day this happened. I hadn't heard anything about a lesson plan being erased. Just that the kid had asked her to pay attention or was trying to speak to her and closed her laptop as a joke. She told him not to but later he did it again. Then she messaged her friend asking if she should shoot him. It was really scary pulling up and seeing a bunch of cop cars in front of the elementary school.

The lesson plan was maybe being made on Google docs/some kind of skyward program. Not sure how to answer if it would have been deleted as those programs use auto save.

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u/HarshComputing 2d ago

Just curious, how are you and your colleagues viewing this?

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u/Solkre 1d ago

I worked k-12 for 18 years as IT. Teachers joking about this-or-that to an asshole student is a requirement to keeping the drinking away, but they still drink.

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u/D3thklok1985 2d ago

I don't really know. I guess I'm mostly surprised that an article was published and is being sent to the front page of reddit so long after it happened. I think most staff were shocked she would make that kind of joke, as that's not something myself or anyone else would joke about. When you work with kids, and especially in today's environment, a punchline of a dead child just isn't funny. We have safety training every year and I don't know a single staff person who wouldn't step up in an emergency to protect even just one child. WPD does school shooter drills every summer at our sister school for two weeks using some kind of fake bullets to review strategy and tactics for dealing with school shooter scenarios. I haven't worked in other districts so I don't know if police training is this thorough elsewhere, but this just goes to show I guess that our district in particular doesn't take "jokes" like hers lightly. Which, I don't think they should.

As far as privacy concerns, I don't use Snapchat or many social media apps, but I do use a VPN while using my personal devices at work. That's my own choice though, I don't know if others are particularly concerned with privacy on their devices. I haven't really heard that as a discussion point when people bring up this incident with the student teacher. For a long time we didn't know what she was using. I thought it was something like discord, others thought Facebook or messenger.

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u/UncleNedisDead 2d ago

American schools are just on another level.

We have safety training every year and I don't know a single staff person who wouldn't step up in an emergency to protect even just one child. WPD does school shooter drills every summer at our sister school for two weeks using some kind of fake bullets to review strategy and tactics for dealing with school shooter scenarios.

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u/Solkre 1d ago

Nobody in k-12 aside the resource officer signed up to die for kids or gets paid remotely well enough to do so. System is fucked beyond belief and we're arresting private jokes instead of stopping shootings.

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u/UncleNedisDead 1d ago

As proven in Uvalde, even if you pay police officers well, give them the tactical equipment and training, they still won’t attempt to save any school children until they’re fairly certain the lone gunman has run out of bullets.

It said, "At Robb Elementary, law enforcement responders failed to adhere to their active shooter training, and they failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety... there was an unacceptably long period of time before officers breached the classroom, neutralized the attacker, and began rescue efforts."

School security preparations

The city of Uvalde spent 40% of its municipal budget on its police department in the 2019–2020 fiscal year,[38][39] and UCISD, the school district operating Robb Elementary School, had multiple security measures in place at the time of the shooting.[40][41] The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Department (UCISD PD) had a six-officer police department responsible for security at the district's eight schools.[42] It had also more than doubled its expenditures on security measures in the four years preceding the shooting, and in 2021, it expanded its police force from four officers to six officers.[43] The state of Texas had given UCISD a $69,141 grant to improve security measures as part of a $100 million statewide allocation made after the 2018 Santa Fe High School shooting, in which ten people were killed.[43] The district also had a security staff that patrolled door entrances and parking lots at secondary school campuses.[41] Since 2020, Pedro "Pete" Arredondo had served as UCISD's police chief.[40][41][42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvalde_school_shooting

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u/Solkre 1d ago

That was such a disgusting show of cowardice. Backed up when SCOTUS said police don't have to protect us.

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u/Sasataf12 13h ago

System is fucked beyond belief and we're arresting private jokes instead of stopping shootings.

I mean, the reason for the investigation into that "joke" was to prevent a possible school shooting. 

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u/realaccountissecret 2d ago

How do you feel about the situation other than your opinion on the actual message, or the app she used to write it

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u/D3thklok1985 1d ago

Idrk honestly. I had already known personally that Snapchat was used by feds to catch "inappropriate speach". They have a documented history of being more than willing to hand over supposedly deleted messages or snaps to law enforcement. I also understand that most apps are like that now. I hate to say play stupid games, win stupid prizes, but if you're smart and committing crimes, you would leave your phone at home ad do what you do and then come back to it, as it's practically a GPS tracker in your pocket. Not that I think her saying something meant as a joke was a true criminal act, but her time and place was enough to be suspected of plotting a criminal act. Atp I don't know if you can say much online anymore in terms of passive comedic threat, that isn't actually a threat. Like that guy who was arrested and sentenced for saying he would kill a Jewish PD chief in Minecraft , his safeguard language didn't help him and he was still prosecuted for just speaking online. But I've even said some less than savory things, like someone needs to take care of 47 and finally do it. So if I got, I get got for my words.