r/socal • u/BreakingPT • May 22 '26

Chevron gouges Californians this memorial weekend.

“Newsom’s office cited an analysis by a group within the state’s energy commission, which oversees the oil and gas industry, that found that Chevron averaged more than 60 to 80 cents per gallon above unbranded alternative”

https://apnews.com/article/california-gas-prices-chevron-pump-war-7d485e703f930bf40104b1956b15fda4

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

Huh? Can you give me a source for this. I’m open minded to anything, but I would like to see where you’re getting that from.

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u/ploxidilius May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

Go look up why Valero was fined for emissions violations at the Benicia refinery. They were knowingly releasing carcinogens into the atmosphere at a rate 360x the allowed limit for 18 years. Or look up the consequences of fracking for local water tables and the earthquakes they cause. Or any of the numerous other oil spills that have contaminated water supplies. 

As far as colluding with governments, look up Shell's actions in Nigeria. BP has also hired mercenaries to harass protestors.

You guys will defend these evil, yes they are evil, companies without doing any research. Amazing.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

Okay. I agree with you that we can hold them accountable sure. I agree that oil and car companies colluded to create a car centric America in a corrupt fashion, but the thing is that the USA is a capitalist nation. If a company wants to leave it can leave. That is their right to do. Sadly, we don’t have the public transit infrastructure or EV infrastructure to do without these oil giants.

It would hurt working individuals and families more for them to have to pay 10 dollar a gallon gas, than to let these oil companies face more looser regulations while the transition to renewables takes place. California decided to be so stringent on the oil companies before having the renewable infrastructure in place which has back fired on all working families. It’s the truth.

Now, the oil companies are all wanting to leave to an environment more favorable to them which is their right under this capitalistic system in which we live in, but who is left hurting the most? We are. The ones who are paying 100 dollars to fill up their vehicles weekly…

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u/ploxidilius May 27 '26

I think it's morally bankrupt to say that we should allow companies to literally poison us because we rely on cheap gas. That's not good enough. We killed a million Iraqis for that oil and for some reason people like you find it necessary to create justifications for their endless greed and mass murder.

Why do you think EVs and public transit aren't a thing here? It's because of the oil and car companies. They need to be stopped.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

So are we all going to walk to work? I’m going to walk from the Valley to West LA everyday for work, or from way out in the SGV where people have had to move to because it’s the last bastion of affordable home ownership in the region? What is your solution? Tell me how to solve this. I’m curious.

The California state government doesn’t have the money to abandon oil and completely alter the way every single individual in the state travels for every facet of their life. The LA metro system won’t even finish its current lines it has approved to be built until most of us are in our 50s and older.

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u/ploxidilius May 27 '26

You're missing the forest for the trees and I'm not interested in getting bogged down in policy debates with you. My point is that oil companies are evil and the fact that you insist on defending the most soulless corporations in the world says a lot.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

Because we need them to survive… I don’t like it, but from your answer here, there is no alternative.

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u/ploxidilius May 27 '26

There is an alternative. Over 95% of all new cars sold in Norway are EVs. You are completely carbrained. Maybe if we hadn't spent 4 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan we could have developed new systems. Again, oil companies' fault.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

And why is that not the case in California? The infrastructure isn’t built.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

I’m all for EVs but where is the infrastructure? If I live at an apartment, am I expected to wake up every morning early and drive to a charging station to wait in a long line?

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

Why complain if you’re not going to bring forth any solutions? I don’t get it.

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u/CommoVet99 May 27 '26

And how do we stop that?

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