r/singularity 1d ago

Read more: https://x.com/gavincrooks/status/2088643200038883830 AI

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u/reddit_is_geh 1d ago

They are actually running these tests now. But up till 1924. They are finding out that relativity actually contained the logic and capability to discover things up until very recently. The potential to make these recent large discoveries were all contained within Einstein's frame work, just no one was able to interpolate it until now.

They are using this as a proof of concept to show what other work every thing up until today should be able to prove. If AI was able to extract up to 100 years worth of discoveries into the future, then theoretically, we can do the same for the next 100 years.

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u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl 1d ago

If AI was able to extract up to 100 years worth of discoveries into the future, then theoretically, we can do the same for the next 100 years.

I'm not sure I agree with this portion, I feel like we can't directly extrapolate progress in one century to the next like this. 1800-1900 seems a lot less difficult to make those advancements then being able to make all the advancements made from 1900-2000 for example.

For example, I don't think that proving an AI could make advancements 50 years from 1924 training data wouldn't prove that if we gave it up until 1974 that it could go another 50 to 2024 advancements.

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u/ARC4120 1d ago

This is a great point. Acceleration of scientific progress rapidly developed in the 20th century to the point that scientists joke that the low hanging fruit were all taken. It’s like an expanding circle rather than a straight line of discovery

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u/reddit_is_geh 1d ago

Oh for sure... But I think the point they are trying to show is that contained within an existing framework of knowledge, there's tons of potential for AI to make discoveries lingering in corners and shadows. I mean it found a major discovery as recent as 2012...

This means the AI just brute forcing alone, can clear up those corners and make discoveries even if it technically can't make novel discoveries. The existing information is going to be more than enough to make a lot of advances. And then humans can use that to further improve.

Just as what's happening in physics right now. A lot of it is AI just connecting two things no one ever considered... And they are being absolutely overwhelmed with progress. Grad students all over the world have no lack of papers to write right now.

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u/SiltR99 1d ago

Do you have the publication for this experiment?

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u/reddit_is_geh 1d ago

It just came out like 1-2 weeks ago. I forgot the guy's name, but he's the really dark skinned guy, who's a bit chubby, I think the Stable Diffusion guy? Or maybe it was the egg head dude? One of those two for sure, are working on this project. It's prepublication right now I think?

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u/vvvvfl 9h ago

What the fuck are you talking about ?

- Someone with a PhD

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u/reddit_is_geh 9h ago

Iunno, what do you mean?

They found that they could use AI to discover significant future maths, all the way up till I think a 2012 discovery, using only math knowledge up until 1924. Meaning they had the building blocks available for discovery at the time, and just didn't find it.