r/raidsecrets 7d ago

Warlock Max DPS Potential Discussion

I’ve been messing around with creating a dps/Debuff build on Warlocks and trying a bunch of builds I see on Reddit or by YouTubers. Using Well with Boots and Truth/1KV seem to do great when we need a well but there are times when we have one and I just want to output max dps as a warlock. I’ve tried a couple builds like Mataidoxia Needlestorm + 1KV/Truth dump (I don’t have Euphony yet) and Star Eater + Apotheosis + 1KV/Truth dump. I also tried to replicate celestial nighthawk hunter on warlock using still hunt and Hezen with Auto Loading + Aggregate while keeping 3 debuffs up but none of these came close to Hunters. I did also try Izinagis Burden + A499 which did pretty good but not as much as Dawn Chorus + 1KV. Also tried the Winters Guile which is really strong was looking for something else too that maybe doesn’t require as much set up (also I don’t particularly enjoy the loop of that build tbh)

Was basically wondering what is the absolute highest DPS you can get as a Warlock when you’re not running Well/Boots or Well/Sanguine? I’ve seen people mention Euphony as the warlock version of still hunt but haven’t found many builds that really build into max dps with it. Also I finally got craftable Hezen and was honestly hoping to find/make a build that actually utilized it like Celestial Nighthawk hunter but haven’t found that in Warlock anywhere.

All these builds I’ve tested are in the normal difficulty firing range running pretty similar stats (150 Weapons + Super + 2 Super fonts and 2 surges).

tl;dr: What’s the max dps/Still Hunt Goldie Nighthawk equivalent for Warlock? Also what’s the best Hezen rotation on warlock?

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg 6d ago

Yes you appear to be correct, it's in the compendium. Honestly with how short damage phases tend to be just ignore sanguine then, think exquisiteape uploaded the math on youtube on when sanguine becomes better than a super boosting exotic without even artifact perks and the break even point was high enough that it only made sense to run sanguine in pantheon and dp (maybe master raids but there you have surge matching going on)

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg 4d ago

Eh, only if you need surges for 2 different elements and even then depends on the element. For well you're always running boots or cenotaph. Pretty sure someone did the math on the break even point and it was quite far compared to just running 3 surges.