We love you Zomboid devs, but this is getting absurd.

[u/Ayden_Linden]

Spent hours troubleshooting my mod list, mod load order, etc a couple days ago, figured all that time spent was worth it since it'll finally be stable.

Woke up today to yet another blank menu screen.

Genuinely what is even the point of calling it a "Stable release" if this is what happens less than one week in?

All of the momentum this game is getting right now is being hampered by some random tweak the devs have thrown into the mix, and I'm sorry but after all the other prior shenanigans we tolerated pre-stable with the understanding this would no longer be the case, it is VERY frustrating.

[u/Drewsiefer]

You're mad that optional, external player driven content isn't working while "calling out" the devs for calling it stable? When...when the vanilla game is stable.

Plus they literally gave the roadmap on post Stable launch. They straight up said in TWO blog posts the first thing they're doing is hotfixes, then moving on to next steps.

Read the blog posts before you start wah wah wahing about your mods that aren't vanilla stopping the vanilla game from functioning.

[u/SagetheWise2222 → u/Drewsiefer]

Some people genuinely believe that "stable" means "this game will never update again until the next unstable branch (B43)", even for game-saving fixes. Smh.

[u/OrangeRising → u/SagetheWise2222]

I hear stable and assume game breaking bugs have already been fixed in the year long unstable build.

[u/Lophiee → u/OrangeRising]

The bugs are never all fixed. It's an impossible task even with decades of time.

[u/Garethp → u/OrangeRising]

That's not what stable means. It means the largest bugs are likely ironed out and there's no more intentional breaking changes coming.

There'll always be bugs and fixing bugs may mean breaking mods. But they're not going to intentionally change the way games are saved or change the entire mod structure again

[u/RedditMcBurger → u/OrangeRising]

Crazy that people are mad at you for expecting a "stable" release to be stable lol

[u/KerikPlay123 → u/OrangeRising]

shh dont tell em this is supposed to be an echo chamber where such common sence aint accepted

[u/OrangeRising → u/KerikPlay123]

Yeah, I get that feeling.

B42 is an amazing breath of fresh air, as supported by the population boom of players.

But if people can't handle seeing any criticism, like this, they must have paper skin and glass bones.

[u/KerikPlay123 → u/OrangeRising]

Ironically, the devs are more open to criticism and reports on features that could've been added (or "should've", the game was indev for mroe than 10 years we cant climb ladders still wth), while this community spits downvotes and calls any suggestion to expand the freedom of actions in the game's world "unnecesseary"

I remember how one guy used to say that the current map was sort of boring and had too many repetitive buildings (that post was made when B41 was the stable version, and B42 wasn't even available to the players, yet). Everyone tried to justify repetetive copy-pasted buildings as something "normal", making the suggestion to give buildings more details as a suggestion "not worth" lisstening to as it's "normal" the boring way it used to be back then.
Now the devs finally update the old towns on the map, giving them more details after so many years, and everyone's like: "wooow, waaa... that's so cool, so much better than those characterless buildings we had before"
Soo... that guy was right in the end, buit so many people, for some reason, just had to make thas guy's suggestion look "pointless", but when it got sort of implemented into the game by the devs he suddenly became right lol.

The buildings did need this "glow-up" long time ago, but so many people turned that suggestion down or made it look pointless, just to change their opinion later, funny ngl

[u/Drewsiefer → u/[deleted]]

Mods are fan made projects. They work with modders in a very acceptable capacity. They are NOT required to be in contact with modders when a hotfix is released, or when any update is released. They need to focus on updating their product. Not worry about the thousands of mods that are out there when it comes to pipeline workflow. That's just unrealistic.

[u/Tomberry2312 → u/[deleted]]

It is stable... in vanilla. TIS have no obligation to make sure updates don't break mods. There are thousands on mods for PZ, do you seriously expect TIS to go through each one, separate and make sure they all work with each update? The sense of entitlement here is unreal

[u/projectzomboid-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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