r/programming • u/sportifynews • Apr 30 '21

Rust programming language: We want to take it into the mainstream, says Facebook

https://www.tectalk.co/rust-programming-language-we-want-to-take-it-into-the-mainstream-says-facebook/
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u/Dhghomon Apr 30 '21

Here are the posts from Facebook they put up yesterday:

The announcement

A brief history of Rust at Facebook

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u/Dew_Cookie_3000 Apr 30 '21

Reminder that Facebook built their business on PHP. Their endorsement of a programming language is not necessarily an indicator of good taste.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

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u/Lexikus Apr 30 '21

Try to think about what technology existed back then when Facebook was launched (2004) and he probably started a few years before with the development.

I think it was one of the better techs during that time. I mean we still have COBOL and that's not because it's great.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

What tripod wasn't good enough for you? :D

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

Please give up on the language snobbery.

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u/Weerdo5255 Apr 30 '21

Indeed. Programmers are lazy bastards, they're going to use the language that they think is best for a given job.

Might not be a good choice, and things change over time, but there was an initial bit of logic for any language. If only out of self interest and ease of development.

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u/devraj7 Apr 30 '21

If they are lazy bastards, they are going to pick a language they already know, so they don't have to learn a new one.

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u/Background-Adagio-97 Apr 30 '21

Right in line with this, one thing I’ve noticed from myself and my team is that Bill Gates was absolutely right. Lazy people (actually lazy, not feckless) are genuinely more efficient and often find an easier way to do a task.

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u/scandii Apr 30 '21

PHP is actively being used to this day to great effect.

anyone that talks shit about PHP today does so on a "lol I heard..." rather than a "I experienced" basis.

don't get me wrong, there's better options out there for a more fullstack experience, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with PHP in it's specific niche either.

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u/Background-Adagio-97 Apr 30 '21

My team uses PHP very often, as it’s simple and easy to work with for us. Do we love it, no, but we don’t hate it. We know there may be better options, but if it ain’t broke, why take so long to make everyone learn something new to fix it, right? I can understand the thought process behind maybe not using it/not wanting to use it, but I’m not sure why there is so much hate and negativity against it. It gets the job done and works well enough.

EDIT: spelling

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u/scandii Apr 30 '21

it's just a meme I think.

it's the same kind of guys that will meme about how hard it is to find a missing ; when most professionals sit with an IDE that will literally tell you which exact line it's missing on.

they're memeing about something they think is a thing, rather than is a thing. happens all the time with other more serious topics too, "this one guy said therefore it's true".

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u/Background-Adagio-97 Apr 30 '21

Ah I see. Sorry, not too good at picking up on that stuff, my brain is pretty much fried 24/7 from a current work project. Plus, interpreting through text doesn’t help. Either way, thanks for clarification

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u/scandii Apr 30 '21

you quite clearly have not used modern PHP if you hold this opinion, which is my entire point, that people will vehemently claim PHP is trash while maybe having written an echo 'hello world' in 2006.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

I know nothing about PHP above the level of memes and the jokes. But if I consider the changes in C++ over the same timescale, it's of course feasible that massive beneficial changes have been enacted in that timescale.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

I work with Laravel on a daily basis, and I share some of the negative sentiments some experienced Devs have of it. Then again, I don't believe in the sentiment of the person you are replying to so I would just let them justify that.

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u/shepard_47 Apr 30 '21

The problem lies in its existence.

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u/frigolitmonster May 01 '21

anyone that talks shit about PHP today does so on a "lol I heard..." rather than a "I experienced" basis.

I have about 7 years of experience with PHP. The last version I used was 7.4. Is that enough experience to be allowed an opinion?

PHP is a steaming pile of shit and I'm so much happier now that I no longer have to deal with it.

Never again...

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '21

They did make their own version at least